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It says here he had a wife. It says in the discussion on Pogo that he modeled the female skunk on his mistress. There's nothing here about his personal life. What was his personal life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.42.57 ( talk) 05:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Instead of being about Walt Kelly, this page is in large part a rework of material exists, or properly should exist, on the Pogo page. Like that page, this is lacking citations. There's subjective language, which although well-intended and perhaps representing common beliefs, isn't appropriate to Wiki: "a landmark strip in many ways", "arguably one of the greatest and most influential of cartoonists", "defiantly hand-drawn". The comments about publication history are vague, and don't explain recent publication activity well. Alpha Ralpha Boulevard 06:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
This is a copy a post I have placed at User talk:64.236.243.16, concerning issues that have been raised on this page since 2007:
-- Tenebrae ( talk) 02:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I removed the reference to his doing the comic book adaptation of Snow White. He did the cover for the 1944 edition of the comic (timed for the first reissue), but the content is just another reprint of the 1937 comic strip adaptation. My expert regarding this, David Gerstein, notes Kelly did pencil the 1944 "Donald Duck and the Seven Dwarfs" in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #43 (also timed to the first reissue), but it is in no sense an adaptation of the film. Dgabbard ( talk) 17:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
It says he preferred Ike to Stevenson, and Truman to Dewey. There's no source cited for any of this. It may very well be true, but how about some attribution? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.142.97 ( talk) 06:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
In Michael Chabon's "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, brief mention is made of Kelly testifying at a senate hearing on the deleterious effects of comic books on American youth. Is there factual basis to this scene? Does it bear mentioning on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.162.205 ( talk) 13:27, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
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An opossum named Pogo appeared in "Albert Takes the Cake," the first issue of Animal Comics, published in 1941 (not 1943). Musanim ( talk) 00:14, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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The manual of style says that in cases of extremely common nicknames we do not need to give them, and we do not need to explain them. Since the title is the shortened name, we can just give the full name in the opening and do not need to explain it at all. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:54, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
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It says here he had a wife. It says in the discussion on Pogo that he modeled the female skunk on his mistress. There's nothing here about his personal life. What was his personal life? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.42.57 ( talk) 05:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
Instead of being about Walt Kelly, this page is in large part a rework of material exists, or properly should exist, on the Pogo page. Like that page, this is lacking citations. There's subjective language, which although well-intended and perhaps representing common beliefs, isn't appropriate to Wiki: "a landmark strip in many ways", "arguably one of the greatest and most influential of cartoonists", "defiantly hand-drawn". The comments about publication history are vague, and don't explain recent publication activity well. Alpha Ralpha Boulevard 06:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
This is a copy a post I have placed at User talk:64.236.243.16, concerning issues that have been raised on this page since 2007:
-- Tenebrae ( talk) 02:11, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I removed the reference to his doing the comic book adaptation of Snow White. He did the cover for the 1944 edition of the comic (timed for the first reissue), but the content is just another reprint of the 1937 comic strip adaptation. My expert regarding this, David Gerstein, notes Kelly did pencil the 1944 "Donald Duck and the Seven Dwarfs" in Walt Disney's Comics and Stories #43 (also timed to the first reissue), but it is in no sense an adaptation of the film. Dgabbard ( talk) 17:55, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
It says he preferred Ike to Stevenson, and Truman to Dewey. There's no source cited for any of this. It may very well be true, but how about some attribution? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.142.97 ( talk) 06:35, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
In Michael Chabon's "The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay, brief mention is made of Kelly testifying at a senate hearing on the deleterious effects of comic books on American youth. Is there factual basis to this scene? Does it bear mentioning on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.162.205 ( talk) 13:27, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
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An opossum named Pogo appeared in "Albert Takes the Cake," the first issue of Animal Comics, published in 1941 (not 1943). Musanim ( talk) 00:14, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
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The manual of style says that in cases of extremely common nicknames we do not need to give them, and we do not need to explain them. Since the title is the shortened name, we can just give the full name in the opening and do not need to explain it at all. John Pack Lambert ( talk) 18:54, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
For people who are best known by a pseudonym, the legal name should usually appear first in the article, followed closely by the pseudonym. Follow this practice even if the article itself is titled with the pseudonym:
Investigation in reliable sources may be needed to determine whether a subject known usually by a pseudonym has actually changed their legal name to match (e.g., Reginald Kenneth Dwight formally changed his name to Elton Hercules John early in his musical career). Where this is not the case, and where the subject uses a popular form of their name in everyday life, then care must be taken to avoid implying that a person who does not generally use all their forenames or who uses a familiar form has actually changed their name. Do not write, for example:
It is not always necessary to spell out why the article title and lead paragraph give a different name. If a person has a common English-language hypocorism (diminutive or abbreviation) used in lieu of a given name, [a] it is not presented between quotation marks or parentheses within or after their name. Example:
For any kind of alternative name, use formulations like the following (as applicable):
If a person is known by a nickname used in lieu of or in addition to a given name, and it is not a common hypocorism [a] of one of their names, or a professional alias, it is usually presented between double quotation marks following the last given name or initial. The quotation marks are not put in lead-section boldface. Example:
A nickname can eventually become a professional alias, even the most common name for a person. Such a case loses the quotation marks, other than in the subject's lead section if introducing the nickname in mid-name. If the nickname is dominant (in general or in a particular context) it can often be used in other articles without further elaboration. Example:
In the article (and in other articles) use: Magic Johnson left Michigan State after his sophomore season to enter the NBA draft. Dr. Ruth and Dr. Drew are trademarks; though they originated as informal nicknames, they do not require quotation marks.
If a nickname is used in place of the subject's entire name, it is usually given separately:
A leading "the" is not capitalized in a nickname, pseudonym, or other alias (except when the alias begins a sentence [b]):
Nicknames should not be re-presented with additional name parts unless necessary for usage clarity.
Common nicknames, aliases, and variants are usually given in boldface in the lead, especially if they redirect to the article, or are found on a disambiguation page or hatnote and link from those other names to the article. Boldface is not needed for obscure ones or a long list, and those that are not well known to our readers may not need to be in the lead at all. [c]
Nicknames and other aliases included must be frequently used by reliable sources in reference to the subject. For example, a sports journalist's one-off reference to a player as "the Atlanta panther" in purple prose does not constitute a nickname, and treating it as one is original research. Highlighting uncommon or disputed appellations in the lead section gives them undue weight, and may also be a more general neutrality problem if the phrase is laudatory or critical. Example: " Tricky Dick" does not appear in the lead of Richard Nixon; this label by his political opponents is covered, with context, in the article body. Nicknames that are sourceable but not generally known to the public (e.g., a childhood nickname, a hypocorism only used in private life, or a term of spousal endearment revealed in an in-depth biographical book) are not encyclopedic.
Do not cram multiple hypocorisms and nicknames into the name in the lead sentence; complicated naming should be explained separately.
-If Bill Gates should be listed as William Thomas Gates with no need to explain the nickname in the opening, I feel the same applies to Walt Kelly.
John Pack Lambert (
talk)
19:10, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
Cite error: There are <ref group=lower-alpha>
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