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stay healthy!P.I. Ellsworth ,
ed.put'er there01:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Waco (disambiguation) → Waco – No clear primary topic, at
Talk:Waco, Texas#Requested move 5 August 2023 I pointed out that the city might not qualify as primary which another user agreed with. By views the city has 18,252 but the miniseries has 9,884 and
Dr Pepper has 45,143[
[1]]. The name of both the miniseries and the former name of Dr Pepper come from the city which suggests the city is primary by long-term significance however the city's name comes from
Waco people which also has long-term significance. Some Google results are for the miniseries and the 1st Image one is for a film. Note that a history merge of the DAB from 2007. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
18:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nomination. There are 29 entries listed upon the
Waco (disambiguation) page, with no indication that Texas' 22nd-most populous city holds such an overwhelmingly dominant position that the redirect to it dwarfs the combined notability of the remaining 26 direct links and two redirects. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs)23:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose Unconvincing. I don't know anyone on the planet who would ever consider "Waco" an alternate name for Dr Pepper, and a miniseries about something that happened in the city can't possibly be a true challenger for the title.
Waco people is a fair enough point, but the very low reader interest (~10 views per day) suggests the current setup is good.
Nohomersryan (
talk)
00:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Support. Actually,
Waco siege gets significantly more page views than
Waco, Texas.
[2] I attribute it to the fact that when that incident happened back in 1993, the national news media used "Waco" as a short hand for that government raid against that religious cult, and reliable sources have used that "Waco" short hand ever since.
Zzyzx11 (
talk)
01:13, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Weak oppose: The town is the default meaning. The siege was just something that happened there that will fade in readership interest as time moves on and the city continues its relevance. —
BarrelProof (
talk)
05:50, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I myself would not go that far on such a
crystal ball assumption that such readership would change as time moves on. It has been over 30 years since the Waco siege occurred, even before Wikipedia was established in 2001, and if I set the Pageviews Analysis back to the maximum "all time" (1 July 2015) you still get overwhelming pageviews for the seige, over 23 million versus the city's over 4 million views.
[3] And despite the occasional news spikes, the siege still averages higher per day than the city.
Zzyzx11 (
talk)
09:28, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
result: No consensus. See no agreement below that this page should be moved. As is usual with a no-consensus outcome, editors can look for new arguments, strengthen old arguments and try again in a few months to garner consensus for these changes. Thanks and kudos to editors for your input; everyone
stay healthy!P.I. Ellsworth ,
ed.put'er there01:30, 19 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Waco (disambiguation) → Waco – No clear primary topic, at
Talk:Waco, Texas#Requested move 5 August 2023 I pointed out that the city might not qualify as primary which another user agreed with. By views the city has 18,252 but the miniseries has 9,884 and
Dr Pepper has 45,143[
[1]]. The name of both the miniseries and the former name of Dr Pepper come from the city which suggests the city is primary by long-term significance however the city's name comes from
Waco people which also has long-term significance. Some Google results are for the miniseries and the 1st Image one is for a film. Note that a history merge of the DAB from 2007. Crouch, Swale (
talk)
18:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Support per nomination. There are 29 entries listed upon the
Waco (disambiguation) page, with no indication that Texas' 22nd-most populous city holds such an overwhelmingly dominant position that the redirect to it dwarfs the combined notability of the remaining 26 direct links and two redirects. —
Roman Spinner(talk •
contribs)23:52, 10 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Oppose Unconvincing. I don't know anyone on the planet who would ever consider "Waco" an alternate name for Dr Pepper, and a miniseries about something that happened in the city can't possibly be a true challenger for the title.
Waco people is a fair enough point, but the very low reader interest (~10 views per day) suggests the current setup is good.
Nohomersryan (
talk)
00:26, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Support. Actually,
Waco siege gets significantly more page views than
Waco, Texas.
[2] I attribute it to the fact that when that incident happened back in 1993, the national news media used "Waco" as a short hand for that government raid against that religious cult, and reliable sources have used that "Waco" short hand ever since.
Zzyzx11 (
talk)
01:13, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
Weak oppose: The town is the default meaning. The siege was just something that happened there that will fade in readership interest as time moves on and the city continues its relevance. —
BarrelProof (
talk)
05:50, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
I myself would not go that far on such a
crystal ball assumption that such readership would change as time moves on. It has been over 30 years since the Waco siege occurred, even before Wikipedia was established in 2001, and if I set the Pageviews Analysis back to the maximum "all time" (1 July 2015) you still get overwhelming pageviews for the seige, over 23 million versus the city's over 4 million views.
[3] And despite the occasional news spikes, the siege still averages higher per day than the city.
Zzyzx11 (
talk)
09:28, 11 August 2023 (UTC)reply
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.