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Explain to me how Ed Koch is in any way a "notable" film critic besides the fact that he was a former NYC mayor? I don't see why film critics shouldn't have some sort of official recognition to be cited as a source of a film's reception. You may as well be quoting some random guy on IMDB. 207.32.33.16 ( talk) 06:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
It seems somehow clear, but how do we know that Wally is male and Eve female? They are roboters - i know - and therefore dont have a sex, but obviously there is a obvious male-female-difference (Wally=male and Eve=female) but it seems different: Eve does have the social characteristics of the classic male-role (dominant, aggressive, hunter) and Wally somehow female. Otherwise the visual appearence: Wally is square and dirty - Eve is round and clean. So i dont know how we can distinguish the two Genders. -- kommerz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.26.203 ( talk) 17:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Using the pronoun it instead of he/she is also a solution. We don't really have to assign genders (i.e. stereotypes) to otherwise inanimate objects, for sexuality and heteosexuality are not the only possibilities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.165.210.73 ( talk) 19:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
a lott of this content is crufty and can leave 'pedia. is there not a wall-e lover's wiki? what stays could be better organized under a quick, easy few headings/subheadings. "plot" is huge. "story" is huge. huh? oh yeah, "story dev". someone should write a wall-e zine. kbai. n-dimensional §кakkl€ 22:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Currently there is a hatnote linking to WALL-E (video game). I think it would be nice to add some information about the video game in the article somewhere, perhaps the last paragraph of the Release section. Then the hatnote can be removed. One of the problems is that WALL-E (soundtrack) could also potentially be in the hatnote, since it also has the same name, but its already linked in the article body, so the same should be done for the video game. LonelyMarble ( talk) 17:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
This phrase: "The robot's design appears to be based on HAL 9000, a nod to 2001: A Space Odyssey, as both robot's directives and logic are the same: to complete their mission without fail." is original research, is it not? – Kerαunoςcopia◁ galaxies 17:34, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Well it looks like Masem ( talk · contribs) above was maybe going to rephrase and add two citations, which I think are listed in this discussion. – Kerαunoςcopia◁ galaxies 21:32, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The 'Starliner' Wikilink points to the Space Station article, but is the Axiom really a space station? -- 98.108.146.96 ( talk) 04:45, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Have any of the creators indicated why the spaceship was given the name "Axiom"? The meaning of the word seems unrelated to the themes of the film. Was it really chosen arbitrarily--perhaps they liked the sound--or have I missed some kind of allusion? 118.165.204.65 ( talk) 11:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
This should be nominated for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.89.57 ( talk) 23:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Apparently, Wall-e is aquatic! Res Mar 14:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Pixar will plans a 3D Re-Release of WALL-E, Presented in Disney Digital 3D, RealD Cinema, IMAX 3D, Dolby 3D and XpanD 3D and Released on November 4, 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.217.139 ( talk) 08:23, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Pixar plan to make a sequel for this film set on November 4, 2016 in theaters, It was Directed by Steven Dean Moore, But Not Andrew Stanton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.209.12 ( talk) 11:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I removed the reference link to the official website because it is now defunct and goes to a Disney landing page.
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The opening phrase “WALL-E, promoted with an interpunct as WALL·E,” makes it seem like the hyphenated version is the standard, and the interpunct is optional and lesser. As the film is firmly promoted, titled, and indeed the main character is actually on-screen labelled “WALL•E”, surely that is the correct and preferred title, and the hyphenated version should be downgraded to a ‘sometimes written as “WALL-E”’…? Jock123 ( talk) 10:11, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm relatively new to this but feel there are several major "themes" that have been omitted; Importantly - technological determinism - its is perhaps a bit one sided to include the quote about technology saving mankind when there is a counter argument that it may be anti technology. Also, within the context of the population resource debate - it arguably has a pro-marxist, pro malthusian message. That isn't a joke, I've just written a dissertation on it. Also the lifeboat / ark section seems to be more resonant with Garrett Hardins "lifeboat ethics".
The section on themes seems a little too blunt for me, although well written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.8.34 ( talk) 22:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
That You can sync up wall-e with Pink Floyds The Wall , just like dark side of the moon and wizard of oz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poohman0 ( talk • contribs) 02:37, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
I am having a ball watching this movie - WALL-E - for the first time; it's wonderful! Since there are some bad spots on my DVD, I decided to read about the plot here on Wikipedia (and also on IMDb) to fill in the gaps. As I was reading the plot, it became obvious that someone has been messing with this page in a negative way; the plot, as currently described, is revisionist: it is inaccurate in at least one instance that I know of (so far). It says: ' WALL-E enters the pod before it launches, retrieves the plant, and escapes unharmed before the pod explodes. He then reconciles with EVE, celebrating with a dance outside the Axiom.
If you've seen WALL-E, then you know this is not what went down; in the movie, WALL-E is jettisoned into space in a pod that self-destructs. I hope someone fixes it.
This information is true as of this writing: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 4:30pm CST (Nashville, TN). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.93.125 ( talk) 21:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure its not just a coincidence that NASA uses EVA as an acronym for Extra Vehicular Activity. WALL•E clearly pronounces it EVA. Is it written anywhere in the movie? 75.159.31.148 ( talk) 06:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
The CEO of BnL calls EVE the Extraterrestrial Vegetation Evaluator. This is also written in the article itself. 129.241.129.16 ( talk) 13:06, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
The lede currently reads that this is a "CGI science-fiction romantic comedy film." The attempts by various IPs to change it to only a "romance film" shows a lack of understanding of both genres. Since none of the IPs address this situation we may need to file a RFPP. MarnetteD | Talk 22:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
On the current version of the article [2013-05-25] it mentions in several places the name of the robot was WALL-E, but throughout it does not explain what it means. Acronym City.. In reviewing the film however, it opens with a bunch of other pieces of hardware that have been abandoned on unused Highway (Roadway -Autobahn) type structures, with the name "Waste Allocation Load Lifter" ,and a sub-lettering below that of "Earth-Class". Again, the article fails to mention this, that there are two parts to the WALL-E machine, the compactor part , and the sort and storage part, where WALL-E, the robot resides, while it's batteries are recharged from the sun.
Actually, Robot is named , but not till further down in the article, (Cast of Characters), is the name given. Richard416282 ( talk) 22:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
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This film did never get re-release into theatres in the US in February 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.198.171 ( talk) 00:34, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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This article consistently refers to Wall-E as 'he' and EVE as 'she', but I recall no point in the film at which they were mentioned by gender. I question how two relatively non-anthropomorphized robots can even have a gender. Enigmocracy ( talk) 15:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Sofia Lucifairy ..this is discrimination, why all garbage collectors are men Ultrastarine ( talk) 05:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
User: Enigmocracy . Ya you are right but in the movie the character behaviour shows that who is male (Wall - E) and who is female (EVE). Ultrastarine ( talk) 05:11, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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I did not see mention in this article about the etymology or meaning of the name WALL·E itself.
I have only watched the film once, many years ago. I vaguely recall the etymology was depicted visually, perhaps through the conflation of two display signs, one of them the beginning of a Wal-Mart sign.
I do not wish to do any “original research”, and am unsure whether citation to certain time periods (in minutes and seconds) of a film is a permissible reference, akin to a page of a written work.
I do not have the opportunity to view the film for this purpose, nor the interest to do extensive review of “primary sources”.
I mention this solely in case anyone has the time or inclination to make this improvement to the article, if warranted. SPN Lifer ( talk) 15:56, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Would not the parts with Fred Willard be considered the live action part? (I agree the Hello Dolly clips do not count) -- Masem ( t) 22:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
A couple editors (or maybe just the same one) have recently removed this line from the lead on the film and its apparent critique of society: "The film criticizes consumerism, corporatism, nostalgia, waste management, human environmental impact and concerns, obesity, and global catastrophic risk." This line is sourced, but I understand the objections to it. The intent is stated as fact, even though Stanton contradicts it (see the "Themes" section). What is actually factual, then, is what critics interpret the film as critiquing, not what the film was intended to critique. Maybe we should be more careful about the wording. The line in the Themes section (which cites the same article) is even worse: "Because WALL-E overtly critiques consumerism, it also critiques Disney's production values and aesthetic, without being too obvious." That's entirely a single source's analysis, and even if it's a reliable source, I don't think the wording is appropriate. -- Fru1tbat ( talk) 16:19, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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Explain to me how Ed Koch is in any way a "notable" film critic besides the fact that he was a former NYC mayor? I don't see why film critics shouldn't have some sort of official recognition to be cited as a source of a film's reception. You may as well be quoting some random guy on IMDB. 207.32.33.16 ( talk) 06:27, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
It seems somehow clear, but how do we know that Wally is male and Eve female? They are roboters - i know - and therefore dont have a sex, but obviously there is a obvious male-female-difference (Wally=male and Eve=female) but it seems different: Eve does have the social characteristics of the classic male-role (dominant, aggressive, hunter) and Wally somehow female. Otherwise the visual appearence: Wally is square and dirty - Eve is round and clean. So i dont know how we can distinguish the two Genders. -- kommerz —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.26.203 ( talk) 17:42, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Using the pronoun it instead of he/she is also a solution. We don't really have to assign genders (i.e. stereotypes) to otherwise inanimate objects, for sexuality and heteosexuality are not the only possibilities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.165.210.73 ( talk) 19:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
a lott of this content is crufty and can leave 'pedia. is there not a wall-e lover's wiki? what stays could be better organized under a quick, easy few headings/subheadings. "plot" is huge. "story" is huge. huh? oh yeah, "story dev". someone should write a wall-e zine. kbai. n-dimensional §кakkl€ 22:05, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Currently there is a hatnote linking to WALL-E (video game). I think it would be nice to add some information about the video game in the article somewhere, perhaps the last paragraph of the Release section. Then the hatnote can be removed. One of the problems is that WALL-E (soundtrack) could also potentially be in the hatnote, since it also has the same name, but its already linked in the article body, so the same should be done for the video game. LonelyMarble ( talk) 17:37, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
This phrase: "The robot's design appears to be based on HAL 9000, a nod to 2001: A Space Odyssey, as both robot's directives and logic are the same: to complete their mission without fail." is original research, is it not? – Kerαunoςcopia◁ galaxies 17:34, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
Well it looks like Masem ( talk · contribs) above was maybe going to rephrase and add two citations, which I think are listed in this discussion. – Kerαunoςcopia◁ galaxies 21:32, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
The 'Starliner' Wikilink points to the Space Station article, but is the Axiom really a space station? -- 98.108.146.96 ( talk) 04:45, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
Have any of the creators indicated why the spaceship was given the name "Axiom"? The meaning of the word seems unrelated to the themes of the film. Was it really chosen arbitrarily--perhaps they liked the sound--or have I missed some kind of allusion? 118.165.204.65 ( talk) 11:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
This should be nominated for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.89.57 ( talk) 23:30, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
Apparently, Wall-e is aquatic! Res Mar 14:23, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Pixar will plans a 3D Re-Release of WALL-E, Presented in Disney Digital 3D, RealD Cinema, IMAX 3D, Dolby 3D and XpanD 3D and Released on November 4, 2011. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.217.139 ( talk) 08:23, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
Pixar plan to make a sequel for this film set on November 4, 2016 in theaters, It was Directed by Steven Dean Moore, But Not Andrew Stanton — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.209.12 ( talk) 11:17, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
I removed the reference link to the official website because it is now defunct and goes to a Disney landing page.
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22:51, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
The opening phrase “WALL-E, promoted with an interpunct as WALL·E,” makes it seem like the hyphenated version is the standard, and the interpunct is optional and lesser. As the film is firmly promoted, titled, and indeed the main character is actually on-screen labelled “WALL•E”, surely that is the correct and preferred title, and the hyphenated version should be downgraded to a ‘sometimes written as “WALL-E”’…? Jock123 ( talk) 10:11, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
I'm relatively new to this but feel there are several major "themes" that have been omitted; Importantly - technological determinism - its is perhaps a bit one sided to include the quote about technology saving mankind when there is a counter argument that it may be anti technology. Also, within the context of the population resource debate - it arguably has a pro-marxist, pro malthusian message. That isn't a joke, I've just written a dissertation on it. Also the lifeboat / ark section seems to be more resonant with Garrett Hardins "lifeboat ethics".
The section on themes seems a little too blunt for me, although well written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.27.8.34 ( talk) 22:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
That You can sync up wall-e with Pink Floyds The Wall , just like dark side of the moon and wizard of oz? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poohman0 ( talk • contribs) 02:37, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
I am having a ball watching this movie - WALL-E - for the first time; it's wonderful! Since there are some bad spots on my DVD, I decided to read about the plot here on Wikipedia (and also on IMDb) to fill in the gaps. As I was reading the plot, it became obvious that someone has been messing with this page in a negative way; the plot, as currently described, is revisionist: it is inaccurate in at least one instance that I know of (so far). It says: ' WALL-E enters the pod before it launches, retrieves the plant, and escapes unharmed before the pod explodes. He then reconciles with EVE, celebrating with a dance outside the Axiom.
If you've seen WALL-E, then you know this is not what went down; in the movie, WALL-E is jettisoned into space in a pod that self-destructs. I hope someone fixes it.
This information is true as of this writing: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 at 4:30pm CST (Nashville, TN). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.93.125 ( talk) 21:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure its not just a coincidence that NASA uses EVA as an acronym for Extra Vehicular Activity. WALL•E clearly pronounces it EVA. Is it written anywhere in the movie? 75.159.31.148 ( talk) 06:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
The CEO of BnL calls EVE the Extraterrestrial Vegetation Evaluator. This is also written in the article itself. 129.241.129.16 ( talk) 13:06, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
The lede currently reads that this is a "CGI science-fiction romantic comedy film." The attempts by various IPs to change it to only a "romance film" shows a lack of understanding of both genres. Since none of the IPs address this situation we may need to file a RFPP. MarnetteD | Talk 22:52, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
On the current version of the article [2013-05-25] it mentions in several places the name of the robot was WALL-E, but throughout it does not explain what it means. Acronym City.. In reviewing the film however, it opens with a bunch of other pieces of hardware that have been abandoned on unused Highway (Roadway -Autobahn) type structures, with the name "Waste Allocation Load Lifter" ,and a sub-lettering below that of "Earth-Class". Again, the article fails to mention this, that there are two parts to the WALL-E machine, the compactor part , and the sort and storage part, where WALL-E, the robot resides, while it's batteries are recharged from the sun.
Actually, Robot is named , but not till further down in the article, (Cast of Characters), is the name given. Richard416282 ( talk) 22:38, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
I moved the following statement from the article to the Talk page, it is inappropriate for it to be in the article itself.
The discussion where consensus was achieved can be found at the "Official Wikipedia naming?" thread in the first Archive on the talk page.
Please do not change the hyphens in the film or title character's name. Consensus and Wikipedia guidelines have determined that it should be kept as "WALL-E", and any edits changing the hyphen to an interpunct, bullet or other such character will be reverted. Thank you.
Please do not put this type of text into the article when it doesn't pertain to the topic itself.
Thanks, and hope we can help make these articles awesome! Alex ( talk) 10:12, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
This film did never get re-release into theatres in the US in February 2015. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.147.198.171 ( talk) 00:34, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
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This article consistently refers to Wall-E as 'he' and EVE as 'she', but I recall no point in the film at which they were mentioned by gender. I question how two relatively non-anthropomorphized robots can even have a gender. Enigmocracy ( talk) 15:25, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
User:Sofia Lucifairy ..this is discrimination, why all garbage collectors are men Ultrastarine ( talk) 05:08, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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I did not see mention in this article about the etymology or meaning of the name WALL·E itself.
I have only watched the film once, many years ago. I vaguely recall the etymology was depicted visually, perhaps through the conflation of two display signs, one of them the beginning of a Wal-Mart sign.
I do not wish to do any “original research”, and am unsure whether citation to certain time periods (in minutes and seconds) of a film is a permissible reference, akin to a page of a written work.
I do not have the opportunity to view the film for this purpose, nor the interest to do extensive review of “primary sources”.
I mention this solely in case anyone has the time or inclination to make this improvement to the article, if warranted. SPN Lifer ( talk) 15:56, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
Would not the parts with Fred Willard be considered the live action part? (I agree the Hello Dolly clips do not count) -- Masem ( t) 22:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
A couple editors (or maybe just the same one) have recently removed this line from the lead on the film and its apparent critique of society: "The film criticizes consumerism, corporatism, nostalgia, waste management, human environmental impact and concerns, obesity, and global catastrophic risk." This line is sourced, but I understand the objections to it. The intent is stated as fact, even though Stanton contradicts it (see the "Themes" section). What is actually factual, then, is what critics interpret the film as critiquing, not what the film was intended to critique. Maybe we should be more careful about the wording. The line in the Themes section (which cites the same article) is even worse: "Because WALL-E overtly critiques consumerism, it also critiques Disney's production values and aesthetic, without being too obvious." That's entirely a single source's analysis, and even if it's a reliable source, I don't think the wording is appropriate. -- Fru1tbat ( talk) 16:19, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
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