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according to this site, wetas are also found in australia, south africa, and south america. http://weta.boarsnest.net/
What is the origin of the word "weta"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 ( talk) 01:27, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Macrons were recently added for wētā, then removed, then added again. Some have definitely been added incorrectly: for example when quoting the title of an article printed in 1956. I'll correct those and leave the rest. Before we embark on an edit war, people should familiarise themselves with the extensive discussion on NZ Wikipedians' Noticeboard. The NZ naming conventions state that Māori words are to be used with macrons where appropriate. Using macrons with Māori has been standard usage since about 2015 in New Zealand English authoritative sources such as newspapers, TV, magazines (see the references in Media outlets using macrons) and government (see Te Ara, Landcare, and DOC), any mass-removal of macrons will be treated as disruptive unless evidence is provided that the spelling with macrons is not in fact in common use, as per WP:COMMONNAME and especially WP:NAMECHANGES. Citations of official authoritative sources demonstrating usage would be preferred to unrestricted Google results. — Giantflightlessbirds ( talk) 02:22, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear that the common name in New Zealand English is Wētā. See for example https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/topic/2499 (National Museum), https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/native-animals/invertebrates/weta/ (Department of Conservation), https://www.aucklandzoo.co.nz/animals/weta-punga (largest zoo) and https://teara.govt.nz/en/weta (National encyclopedia). Older sources and those without the technical ability still fail to use macrons, but those numbers are falling. I intend t rename this article shortly unless there is an objection. Ping User:Rsfinlayson and User:Giantflightlessbirds. Stuartyeates ( talk) 20:08, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move page. ( non-admin closure) — YoungForever (talk) 04:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Weta → Wētā – Wētā is the correct spelling for this in New Zealand English, as per all the significant national institutions ( https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/topic/2499 (National Museum), https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/native-animals/invertebrates/weta/ (Department of Conservation), https://www.aucklandzoo.co.nz/animals/weta-punga (largest zoo), https://teara.govt.nz/en/weta (National encyclopedia), and etc.) and the page needs to be moved to that per NZ naming conventions. Stuartyeates ( talk) 03:28, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
I removed from the lede the mention of the so-called "Australian winged weta", an undescribed Australian species of ‘’Pterapotrechus’’ established in NZ. It is not mentioned in the body text and as yet there is no article about it. Also, inserting the addition of the Aussie flyer in a passage saying our wētā are all flightless, has dubious relevance and is confusing. When an article is created about this insect it will doubtless justify inclusion, but in its own referencd paragraph. Moriori ( talk) 22:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
The animals go by different names in different places. Such as "king crickets" in Australia and South Africa. The name wētā is unique to New Zealand though. Maybe a biology specialist will chime in more broadly on the aspect of Orders/ Families/ Species.
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https://www.qm.qld.gov.au/Explore/Find+out+about/Animals+of+Queensland/Insects/Grasshoppers+Crickets+and+Katydids/Common+species/Giant+King+Cricket /info/en/?search=Anostostomatidae 97.122.180.75 ( talk) 03:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
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according to this site, wetas are also found in australia, south africa, and south america. http://weta.boarsnest.net/
What is the origin of the word "weta"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.252.183.253 ( talk) 01:27, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
Macrons were recently added for wētā, then removed, then added again. Some have definitely been added incorrectly: for example when quoting the title of an article printed in 1956. I'll correct those and leave the rest. Before we embark on an edit war, people should familiarise themselves with the extensive discussion on NZ Wikipedians' Noticeboard. The NZ naming conventions state that Māori words are to be used with macrons where appropriate. Using macrons with Māori has been standard usage since about 2015 in New Zealand English authoritative sources such as newspapers, TV, magazines (see the references in Media outlets using macrons) and government (see Te Ara, Landcare, and DOC), any mass-removal of macrons will be treated as disruptive unless evidence is provided that the spelling with macrons is not in fact in common use, as per WP:COMMONNAME and especially WP:NAMECHANGES. Citations of official authoritative sources demonstrating usage would be preferred to unrestricted Google results. — Giantflightlessbirds ( talk) 02:22, 26 July 2018 (UTC)
I think it's pretty clear that the common name in New Zealand English is Wētā. See for example https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/topic/2499 (National Museum), https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/native-animals/invertebrates/weta/ (Department of Conservation), https://www.aucklandzoo.co.nz/animals/weta-punga (largest zoo) and https://teara.govt.nz/en/weta (National encyclopedia). Older sources and those without the technical ability still fail to use macrons, but those numbers are falling. I intend t rename this article shortly unless there is an objection. Ping User:Rsfinlayson and User:Giantflightlessbirds. Stuartyeates ( talk) 20:08, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move page. ( non-admin closure) — YoungForever (talk) 04:00, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
Weta → Wētā – Wētā is the correct spelling for this in New Zealand English, as per all the significant national institutions ( https://collections.tepapa.govt.nz/topic/2499 (National Museum), https://www.doc.govt.nz/nature/native-animals/invertebrates/weta/ (Department of Conservation), https://www.aucklandzoo.co.nz/animals/weta-punga (largest zoo), https://teara.govt.nz/en/weta (National encyclopedia), and etc.) and the page needs to be moved to that per NZ naming conventions. Stuartyeates ( talk) 03:28, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
I removed from the lede the mention of the so-called "Australian winged weta", an undescribed Australian species of ‘’Pterapotrechus’’ established in NZ. It is not mentioned in the body text and as yet there is no article about it. Also, inserting the addition of the Aussie flyer in a passage saying our wētā are all flightless, has dubious relevance and is confusing. When an article is created about this insect it will doubtless justify inclusion, but in its own referencd paragraph. Moriori ( talk) 22:37, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
The animals go by different names in different places. Such as "king crickets" in Australia and South Africa. The name wētā is unique to New Zealand though. Maybe a biology specialist will chime in more broadly on the aspect of Orders/ Families/ Species.
Sources:
https://www.qm.qld.gov.au/Explore/Find+out+about/Animals+of+Queensland/Insects/Grasshoppers+Crickets+and+Katydids/Common+species/Giant+King+Cricket /info/en/?search=Anostostomatidae 97.122.180.75 ( talk) 03:19, 19 May 2022 (UTC)