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Welley, Also known as SosYang, was born June 24th 2000. SosYang is a inspirational R&B Rapper, and musical singing, although He try his best to past his music out with perfection, but faith and comprehension, is the only thing that can convince him to past on his talent. As for Music That's not all Welley is great at, With his Remarkable Talent of Dancing, painting, and Drawing (Art) He has been looked upon by popular celebrities such as Tech9, Usher, and Travis Scott. Welley was Formally born in Liberia, His family Came to The United State 2003, Welley have been Living in Boston for 4Years, He relocated with his Mother to California, 2006. due to Bad weather and parent separation. Welley formally Moved to Portland Organ 2009 for 3Years, then He relocated to Kansas City Missouri,You can Look SosYang on Google and any other search engine Google@celebrity.com base on my research this is the only information i can find about Welley — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackHanderson ( talk • contribs) 06:10, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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remove name kabilan vairamuthu from screenplay and writter, as he only a assistant for screenplay. Chandruaust ( talk) 08:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam in English is INTELLIGENCE INTELLIGENCE is far better than PRUDENCE Prasath sundar ( talk) 23:02, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Box office amount changed why Sharathsandhya1991 ( talk) 03:07, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Yesterday 60.67cr today 50 cr whatbis all about Sharathsandhya1991 ( talk) 03:08, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes.. correct.. You put the wrong information.. please correct it in box office.. Rskarthick 15 ( talk) 09:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Vivegam collects 100cr in three days... Day 1 - 33.08 cr Day 2 - 66 cr Day 3 - 100 cr.. So , pls change according to true data... Rskarthick 15 ( talk) 05:06, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Vivegam collects 100cr in three days... Day 1 - 33.08 cr Day 2 - 66 cr Day 3 - 100 cr.. So , pls change according to true data... Movie already reached 100cr in 3 days. Plz update the box office figure immediately.. Thankx Mhdshrz ( talk) 14:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Currently 130 crs Dawoodmds ( talk) 14:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Change box office from 68crs to 130crs Dawoodmds ( talk) 17:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Movie grossed already 140cr worldwide just change it Mhdshrz ( talk) 18:04, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Worldwide gross 150cr just change it dont update false.. Mhdshrz ( talk) 03:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;< http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html> Mpmnoir ( talk) 13:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpmnoir ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Please update the box office gross Kumaraguru007 ( talk) 16:40, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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Mhdshrz ( talk) 05:23, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
In box office , it is stated that it was collected only 50 crores.. That information is wrong.. It collected around 100 crores in 3 days... I have evidences... Rskarthick 15 ( talk) 09:28, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;< http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html> Mpmnoir ( talk) 13:49, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
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Want to edit the Box Office field. Value is 50cr. But now the profits went up to 85cr. Jayak914 ( talk) 20:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam in English change the word "prudence" as " intelligence" Prasath sundar ( talk) 10:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam Box Office Collections now is 106 Cr. But here it is still 77cr.Kindly change it to 106cr. Jayak914 ( talk) 21:31, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey Why cant u change the box Office collection , IT has Vivegam has Grossed more than 120 crores! Soloman Rajkumar ( talk) 01:55, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Helooo! This is not right ! Dont give wrong information to people .. this movie collection has been more than 120crores proven! Soloman Rajkumar ( talk) 05:24, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
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The Box Office Of Vivegam Officially declared by India today is 152 crores ..... So pls change it.... Sanjesh Manivel ( talk) 13:55, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;< http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html>
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VIVEGAM HAS COLLECTED 160CR WORLDWIDE PLEASE CHANGE IN THE WIKI
now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;< http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html> Mpmnoir ( talk) 13:45, 7 September 2017 (UTC)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpmnoir ( talk • contribs) 13:40, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html Silambarasant ( talk) 19:03, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
What is this? Fake box office collections has been updated for Vivegam, that sucks... Who is the dickhead updated this? Most of the medias have reported the movie has grossed 150 crores and above, this moron is still stuck with 77 cr figure.. Gskrocks ( talk) 09:26, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam has done very good business. It crossed 160 crores and it may cross 200 crores. It's budget is 100 crores but it already crossed the 150 crore. Earning around 50 crores and is still going strong. Even if the review of some of critics are not that good. But still Ajit's fan and also normal people loved the movie. This movie's special effect is of international standard. It has got holly wood like action sequence and is very good thriller. Jgnadar1978 ( talk) 11:03, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
It Has Even Grossed About 165 Crores® Sanjesh Manivel ( talk) 13:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
BT Online | New Delhi, Wednesday, September 13, 2017 | 12:10 IST Ajith Kumar starrer, Vivegam, seems unstoppable at the box office. Up till Sunday, Vivegam collected Rs 160 crore worldwide. After breaking the records of Baahubali and Kabali, Vivegam is expected to enter the Rs 200 crore club in coming days. Reference - Business Times Sanjesh Manivel ( talk) 13:47, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
What taking so long for that moron to update the correct collections of Vivegam???? Gskrocks ( talk) 15:37, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
...all Indian film financial details are based on trade estimates and should not be taken as gospel.We realize that enthusiasm for Indian films is vital to the encyclopedia but when that enthusiasm manifests as competition between fans over which film has earned more it does not help. Calling other editors "morons" is even less likely to help and often leads to being blocked. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please allow me to change the the genre and the total gross of the film worldwide. 103.94.137.148 ( talk) 18:06, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Josewiki27 ( talk) 09:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC) Please update current box office collection of vivegam movie
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Change Box office from 77cr to 150Cr. Jayak914 ( talk) 14:35, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
It is known fact that So called Box office Tracker Ramesh bala Often Provides Inflated and Wrong Box Office Figures. you can find Many instances where he made Tweets With BO Numbers contradicting his own old Tweets Example - For the movie Lingaa He Tweeted 1st Day Gross is 17 Cr "NEW RECORD " then when The Ajith 's Movie Vedalam came he tweeted that VEDALAM 1st day gross is 15cr and said its the Best Of all time!! [1] there are many examples like this. [2]
and there are articles of about his inflated Fake Numbers by International Business Times
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/yennai-arindhaal-100-crore-box-office-collection-report-fake-625283 <-- Article on his Fake Figures on 2015 Ajith 's Movie Yennai Arindhal http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-has-ajiths-film-crossed-rs-100-crore-mark-figures-740165 <--- Article on his Inflated Figures on Ajith 's Movie Vivegam http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/the-murky-world-of-box-office-figures/article7903783.ece <-- Article about inflated Numbers by Credible Tracker Sreedhar Pillai .
So You can easily conclude that Ramesh bala linked Media Sources are just not credible and also he is Biased to Ajith's Movies To give more proof why he is Biased here check out these SS of his tweets https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0Ss2zlUAAETcjt.jpg
So don't consider this guy's SOURCES/Numbers , we should wait for other transparent Sources or just Remove that Column.Instead of providing wrong Information. — Preceding
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http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4137&cid=6&fid=5717
Andhraboxoffice is better Reliable source than Ramesh bala Linked Media Sources
change the Box office numbers to 112cr
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4137&cid=6&fid=5717 Change the Gross to 112 cr because its close to the fact , the movie Flopped and andhraboxoffice is widely considered credible and active for 7+ years. the above section explains why the rameshbala numbers are inflated and fake.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-has-ajiths-film-crossed-rs-100-crore-mark-figures-740165 many Media also uses Andhraboxoffice as their Source. its just that People Like rameshbala misusing and posting some random figures as fast as possible , so these National Media sites just use them to report the Figures Blindly . unlike where Andhraboxoffice gives in - depth report of all south movies. they BoxofficeMojo of South India. so change the figures as soon as possible guys .
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BigNews Morgans ( talk) 12:04, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Plz delete the content that mentioned losses to distributors.. Shareez arooz ( talk) 19:32, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Vivegam boxoffice collection:Ajith starrer complets 50 days in theatres|13-oct-2017|ibtimes|the worldwide gross is said to be over 110 crore KollyBoxofficeEagleEye ( talk) 03:53, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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Vinoj jayanth ( talk) 07:14, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
vivegam box office collection is 160 crore the sources given below http://www.businesstoday.in/lifestyle/off-track/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajiths-movie-collects-rs-160-crore-eyes-rs-200-crore-worldwide/story/260179.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-kumar-kajal-aggarwal/1/1044692.html</ref>
@ Vinoj jayanth we cannot change it.see this reliable source and also the newly dated article it has clearly mentioned life time final collection as 112 crore. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-starrer-grosses-rs-112-crore-its-lifetime-747310 whereas the above sources you are provided are old dated articles just speculated collections and does not mention the word "lifetime" which means final collections what a movie earns at the end of the day. hope you have understood. thank you Bothiman ( talk) 10:08, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
@ King Prithviraj II NOT only IBT even yahoo in late 2017 have declared vivegam as one of the biggest flops of 2017 along with singam 3 and spyder see this https://in.style.yahoo.com/singham-3-spyder-vivegam-biggest-095252597.html . Bothiman ( talk) 10:07, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
@ King Prithviraj II if we add that 160 crore from that old dated article even so if it is reliable source. the claims of mine were from a newly dated article as of november end even though it is from andhra box office and bollywood life shared by reliable sources ib times and yahoo. the funny part even yahoo said this film collected 160 crore in some old dated article and they switched on to 122 crore after they came to know the film under performed. the date also matters its better we just stick on to newly dated IBTimes life collection eventhough they share it from andhra box office. since its tamil and also a telugu dubbed film andhra box office is one of the good trackers of south movies nowadays. thank you Bothiman ( talk) 11:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
@ King Prithviraj II I actually read that but as per wiki rules I know andhra boxoffice not a reliable source. But they are the leading trackers of south movies nowadays as mentioned by IB times a reliable source in that article. Bothiman ( talk) 12:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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box office 111 cr inr Ranjith kuruvilla ( talk) 15:19, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
its mentioned final gross and the date is also a new date 16 december 2017 in the international business times article make necessary changes and also supporting source catch news with 12 november 2017 article mentioning the same that the film collected only 112 crore in its lifetime. its a disaster film at box office. those forbes, indian express extra sources are old August dated articles and totally inflated box office figures. kindly change it to these sources.
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Hello cytolaugh are you the distributor for this movie to talk about box office figures?.So far distributor and theater owners officially said that this movie netted higher than Vijay's Theri 104 crore with taxes. And grossed higher than Theri, Vedhalam and Lingaa. Lumbercane ( talk) 10:05, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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Vivegam 2017 has grossed ₹130.72 crore worldwide, the budget was ₹89 crore, please change the information.
Vivegam final worldwide gross.
TamilNadu - ₹71.72 crore Karnataka - ₹9 crore AP/TG - ₹7.47 crore Kerala - ₹5.28 crore ROI - ₹2.25 crore Overseas - ₹35 crore
WORLDWIDE TOTAL - ₹130.72 CRORE 210.187.249.9 ( talk) 16:20, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
As AndhraBoxOffice is not a cite(actually a blog) and also not a reliable source, I removed the financial informations given from that blog as per wikipedia rules and regulations. Lumbercane ( talk) 09:59, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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182.65.244.154 ( talk) 17:04, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
50 crore loss is a blatant lie. Yes this filim did not perform well . There is no possiblity of 50 crore loss. As the producer would have made money by selling theatrical rights, over seas right , kannada rights , hindi rights , telugu rights . Additionaly the filim did deacent box office collection in many centers in tamil nadu and over seas. And the article sitation for 50 crore loss does not have any valid proof. Sriharivignesh ( talk) 07:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
@ Vertercas: In this edit, you took a published gross 167 crore figure for Vivegam, then you subtracted 50 crore based on this source, creating some sort of bizarre figure that looks more like a net figure. You then doubled down on this new number by citing Catch news, but it's unclear why this new 112 crore figure you assert is more correct than the 167 cited by Financial Express. Because it more closely adheres to your personal opinion? I've presented the content in the form of a range. Even with a 112 or 117 crore gross figure, if the budget was 130 crore, that's only a 13-18 crore difference, so they must be calculating their loss by some other means, which might include factoring in distributor debts, entertainment taxes, etc. In western films, for instance, a film is typically only considered profitable if it makes 2x their budget, because there's all sorts of expenses that nobody knows about. So this film could have grossed 167 crore on a budget of 130 crore (which technically looks like a profit) and still have lost 50 crore because of other expenses not transparent to us. Bottom line: neither you nor I know for sure what the actual gross figure is, and unless there's some glaring reason to ignore the Financial Express figure (which I've seen before with Kabali) then we should include it, since Wikipedia is not the sole arbiter of fact.
Note also that per WP:BRD, when you are reverted, the onus is on you to open a discussion to seek consensus, not to discuss via edit warring. This discussion I've opened here is one you should have opened after you were reverted. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC) I appreciate your work as we don't know what the actual gross is it's all based on sources.my Regards Vertercas ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:18, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
If you dont know the exact loss figures. Then just mention it incurred loss for the prodcurer rather than putting it as 50 crore loss. Also the website you have provided for citation is refering to some unknow x who is not even related to the filim . Sriharivignesh ( talk) 06:45, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Catchnews and andhraboxoffice websites are running by group of paid mafia in the name of trackers and not to be considered as the cite. Lumbercane ( talk) 04:11, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Prakash Upadhyaya just copying the financial informations from the blog source Andhraboxoffice. Hereafter please wont consider him as a source Lumbercane ( talk) 04:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
This movie received mostly negative reviews only. But here you mentioned it as Mixed reviews which are not true. Mano cr ( talk) 08:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Welley, Also known as SosYang, was born June 24th 2000. SosYang is a inspirational R&B Rapper, and musical singing, although He try his best to past his music out with perfection, but faith and comprehension, is the only thing that can convince him to past on his talent. As for Music That's not all Welley is great at, With his Remarkable Talent of Dancing, painting, and Drawing (Art) He has been looked upon by popular celebrities such as Tech9, Usher, and Travis Scott. Welley was Formally born in Liberia, His family Came to The United State 2003, Welley have been Living in Boston for 4Years, He relocated with his Mother to California, 2006. due to Bad weather and parent separation. Welley formally Moved to Portland Organ 2009 for 3Years, then He relocated to Kansas City Missouri,You can Look SosYang on Google and any other search engine Google@celebrity.com base on my research this is the only information i can find about Welley — Preceding unsigned comment added by JackHanderson ( talk • contribs) 06:10, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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remove name kabilan vairamuthu from screenplay and writter, as he only a assistant for screenplay. Chandruaust ( talk) 08:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam in English is INTELLIGENCE INTELLIGENCE is far better than PRUDENCE Prasath sundar ( talk) 23:02, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
Box office amount changed why Sharathsandhya1991 ( talk) 03:07, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Yesterday 60.67cr today 50 cr whatbis all about Sharathsandhya1991 ( talk) 03:08, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Yes.. correct.. You put the wrong information.. please correct it in box office.. Rskarthick 15 ( talk) 09:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Vivegam collects 100cr in three days... Day 1 - 33.08 cr Day 2 - 66 cr Day 3 - 100 cr.. So , pls change according to true data... Rskarthick 15 ( talk) 05:06, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Vivegam collects 100cr in three days... Day 1 - 33.08 cr Day 2 - 66 cr Day 3 - 100 cr.. So , pls change according to true data... Movie already reached 100cr in 3 days. Plz update the box office figure immediately.. Thankx Mhdshrz ( talk) 14:18, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
Currently 130 crs Dawoodmds ( talk) 14:57, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Change box office from 68crs to 130crs Dawoodmds ( talk) 17:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
Movie grossed already 140cr worldwide just change it Mhdshrz ( talk) 18:04, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Worldwide gross 150cr just change it dont update false.. Mhdshrz ( talk) 03:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;< http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html> Mpmnoir ( talk) 13:48, 7 September 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mpmnoir ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
Please update the box office gross Kumaraguru007 ( talk) 16:40, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
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Mhdshrz ( talk) 05:23, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
In box office , it is stated that it was collected only 50 crores.. That information is wrong.. It collected around 100 crores in 3 days... I have evidences... Rskarthick 15 ( talk) 09:28, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;< http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html> Mpmnoir ( talk) 13:49, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
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Want to edit the Box Office field. Value is 50cr. But now the profits went up to 85cr. Jayak914 ( talk) 20:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam in English change the word "prudence" as " intelligence" Prasath sundar ( talk) 10:22, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam Box Office Collections now is 106 Cr. But here it is still 77cr.Kindly change it to 106cr. Jayak914 ( talk) 21:31, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey Why cant u change the box Office collection , IT has Vivegam has Grossed more than 120 crores! Soloman Rajkumar ( talk) 01:55, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
Helooo! This is not right ! Dont give wrong information to people .. this movie collection has been more than 120crores proven! Soloman Rajkumar ( talk) 05:24, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
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The Box Office Of Vivegam Officially declared by India today is 152 crores ..... So pls change it.... Sanjesh Manivel ( talk) 13:55, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
now vivegam collects 152 cr according to india today report;< http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html>
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VIVEGAM HAS COLLECTED 160CR WORLDWIDE PLEASE CHANGE IN THE WIKI
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http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-thala-ajith-kumar-siva-kajal/1/1041006.html Silambarasant ( talk) 19:03, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
What is this? Fake box office collections has been updated for Vivegam, that sucks... Who is the dickhead updated this? Most of the medias have reported the movie has grossed 150 crores and above, this moron is still stuck with 77 cr figure.. Gskrocks ( talk) 09:26, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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Vivegam has done very good business. It crossed 160 crores and it may cross 200 crores. It's budget is 100 crores but it already crossed the 150 crore. Earning around 50 crores and is still going strong. Even if the review of some of critics are not that good. But still Ajit's fan and also normal people loved the movie. This movie's special effect is of international standard. It has got holly wood like action sequence and is very good thriller. Jgnadar1978 ( talk) 11:03, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
It Has Even Grossed About 165 Crores® Sanjesh Manivel ( talk) 13:43, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
BT Online | New Delhi, Wednesday, September 13, 2017 | 12:10 IST Ajith Kumar starrer, Vivegam, seems unstoppable at the box office. Up till Sunday, Vivegam collected Rs 160 crore worldwide. After breaking the records of Baahubali and Kabali, Vivegam is expected to enter the Rs 200 crore club in coming days. Reference - Business Times Sanjesh Manivel ( talk) 13:47, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
What taking so long for that moron to update the correct collections of Vivegam???? Gskrocks ( talk) 15:37, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
...all Indian film financial details are based on trade estimates and should not be taken as gospel.We realize that enthusiasm for Indian films is vital to the encyclopedia but when that enthusiasm manifests as competition between fans over which film has earned more it does not help. Calling other editors "morons" is even less likely to help and often leads to being blocked. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Please allow me to change the the genre and the total gross of the film worldwide. 103.94.137.148 ( talk) 18:06, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
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Josewiki27 ( talk) 09:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC) Please update current box office collection of vivegam movie
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Change Box office from 77cr to 150Cr. Jayak914 ( talk) 14:35, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
It is known fact that So called Box office Tracker Ramesh bala Often Provides Inflated and Wrong Box Office Figures. you can find Many instances where he made Tweets With BO Numbers contradicting his own old Tweets Example - For the movie Lingaa He Tweeted 1st Day Gross is 17 Cr "NEW RECORD " then when The Ajith 's Movie Vedalam came he tweeted that VEDALAM 1st day gross is 15cr and said its the Best Of all time!! [1] there are many examples like this. [2]
and there are articles of about his inflated Fake Numbers by International Business Times
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/yennai-arindhaal-100-crore-box-office-collection-report-fake-625283 <-- Article on his Fake Figures on 2015 Ajith 's Movie Yennai Arindhal http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-has-ajiths-film-crossed-rs-100-crore-mark-figures-740165 <--- Article on his Inflated Figures on Ajith 's Movie Vivegam http://www.thehindu.com/features/cinema/the-murky-world-of-box-office-figures/article7903783.ece <-- Article about inflated Numbers by Credible Tracker Sreedhar Pillai .
So You can easily conclude that Ramesh bala linked Media Sources are just not credible and also he is Biased to Ajith's Movies To give more proof why he is Biased here check out these SS of his tweets https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0Ss2zlUAAETcjt.jpg
So don't consider this guy's SOURCES/Numbers , we should wait for other transparent Sources or just Remove that Column.Instead of providing wrong Information. — Preceding
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OthaDAW ( talk) 18:41, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4137&cid=6&fid=5717
Andhraboxoffice is better Reliable source than Ramesh bala Linked Media Sources
change the Box office numbers to 112cr
http://andhraboxoffice.com/info.aspx?id=4137&cid=6&fid=5717 Change the Gross to 112 cr because its close to the fact , the movie Flopped and andhraboxoffice is widely considered credible and active for 7+ years. the above section explains why the rameshbala numbers are inflated and fake.
http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-total-worldwide-box-office-collection-has-ajiths-film-crossed-rs-100-crore-mark-figures-740165 many Media also uses Andhraboxoffice as their Source. its just that People Like rameshbala misusing and posting some random figures as fast as possible , so these National Media sites just use them to report the Figures Blindly . unlike where Andhraboxoffice gives in - depth report of all south movies. they BoxofficeMojo of South India. so change the figures as soon as possible guys .
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BigNews Morgans ( talk) 12:04, 29 October 2017 (UTC)
Plz delete the content that mentioned losses to distributors.. Shareez arooz ( talk) 19:32, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
Vivegam boxoffice collection:Ajith starrer complets 50 days in theatres|13-oct-2017|ibtimes|the worldwide gross is said to be over 110 crore KollyBoxofficeEagleEye ( talk) 03:53, 4 December 2017 (UTC)
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Vinoj jayanth ( talk) 07:14, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
vivegam box office collection is 160 crore the sources given below http://www.businesstoday.in/lifestyle/off-track/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajiths-movie-collects-rs-160-crore-eyes-rs-200-crore-worldwide/story/260179.html http://indiatoday.intoday.in/story/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-kumar-kajal-aggarwal/1/1044692.html</ref>
@ Vinoj jayanth we cannot change it.see this reliable source and also the newly dated article it has clearly mentioned life time final collection as 112 crore. http://www.ibtimes.co.in/vivegam-box-office-collection-ajith-starrer-grosses-rs-112-crore-its-lifetime-747310 whereas the above sources you are provided are old dated articles just speculated collections and does not mention the word "lifetime" which means final collections what a movie earns at the end of the day. hope you have understood. thank you Bothiman ( talk) 10:08, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
@ King Prithviraj II NOT only IBT even yahoo in late 2017 have declared vivegam as one of the biggest flops of 2017 along with singam 3 and spyder see this https://in.style.yahoo.com/singham-3-spyder-vivegam-biggest-095252597.html . Bothiman ( talk) 10:07, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
@ King Prithviraj II if we add that 160 crore from that old dated article even so if it is reliable source. the claims of mine were from a newly dated article as of november end even though it is from andhra box office and bollywood life shared by reliable sources ib times and yahoo. the funny part even yahoo said this film collected 160 crore in some old dated article and they switched on to 122 crore after they came to know the film under performed. the date also matters its better we just stick on to newly dated IBTimes life collection eventhough they share it from andhra box office. since its tamil and also a telugu dubbed film andhra box office is one of the good trackers of south movies nowadays. thank you Bothiman ( talk) 11:46, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
@ King Prithviraj II I actually read that but as per wiki rules I know andhra boxoffice not a reliable source. But they are the leading trackers of south movies nowadays as mentioned by IB times a reliable source in that article. Bothiman ( talk) 12:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
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box office 111 cr inr Ranjith kuruvilla ( talk) 15:19, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
its mentioned final gross and the date is also a new date 16 december 2017 in the international business times article make necessary changes and also supporting source catch news with 12 november 2017 article mentioning the same that the film collected only 112 crore in its lifetime. its a disaster film at box office. those forbes, indian express extra sources are old August dated articles and totally inflated box office figures. kindly change it to these sources.
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Hello cytolaugh are you the distributor for this movie to talk about box office figures?.So far distributor and theater owners officially said that this movie netted higher than Vijay's Theri 104 crore with taxes. And grossed higher than Theri, Vedhalam and Lingaa. Lumbercane ( talk) 10:05, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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Vivegam 2017 has grossed ₹130.72 crore worldwide, the budget was ₹89 crore, please change the information.
Vivegam final worldwide gross.
TamilNadu - ₹71.72 crore Karnataka - ₹9 crore AP/TG - ₹7.47 crore Kerala - ₹5.28 crore ROI - ₹2.25 crore Overseas - ₹35 crore
WORLDWIDE TOTAL - ₹130.72 CRORE 210.187.249.9 ( talk) 16:20, 25 February 2018 (UTC)
As AndhraBoxOffice is not a cite(actually a blog) and also not a reliable source, I removed the financial informations given from that blog as per wikipedia rules and regulations. Lumbercane ( talk) 09:59, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
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182.65.244.154 ( talk) 17:04, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
50 crore loss is a blatant lie. Yes this filim did not perform well . There is no possiblity of 50 crore loss. As the producer would have made money by selling theatrical rights, over seas right , kannada rights , hindi rights , telugu rights . Additionaly the filim did deacent box office collection in many centers in tamil nadu and over seas. And the article sitation for 50 crore loss does not have any valid proof. Sriharivignesh ( talk) 07:47, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
@ Vertercas: In this edit, you took a published gross 167 crore figure for Vivegam, then you subtracted 50 crore based on this source, creating some sort of bizarre figure that looks more like a net figure. You then doubled down on this new number by citing Catch news, but it's unclear why this new 112 crore figure you assert is more correct than the 167 cited by Financial Express. Because it more closely adheres to your personal opinion? I've presented the content in the form of a range. Even with a 112 or 117 crore gross figure, if the budget was 130 crore, that's only a 13-18 crore difference, so they must be calculating their loss by some other means, which might include factoring in distributor debts, entertainment taxes, etc. In western films, for instance, a film is typically only considered profitable if it makes 2x their budget, because there's all sorts of expenses that nobody knows about. So this film could have grossed 167 crore on a budget of 130 crore (which technically looks like a profit) and still have lost 50 crore because of other expenses not transparent to us. Bottom line: neither you nor I know for sure what the actual gross figure is, and unless there's some glaring reason to ignore the Financial Express figure (which I've seen before with Kabali) then we should include it, since Wikipedia is not the sole arbiter of fact.
Note also that per WP:BRD, when you are reverted, the onus is on you to open a discussion to seek consensus, not to discuss via edit warring. This discussion I've opened here is one you should have opened after you were reverted. Regards, Cyphoidbomb ( talk) 15:39, 8 February 2019 (UTC) I appreciate your work as we don't know what the actual gross is it's all based on sources.my Regards Vertercas ( talk) —Preceding undated comment added 17:18, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
If you dont know the exact loss figures. Then just mention it incurred loss for the prodcurer rather than putting it as 50 crore loss. Also the website you have provided for citation is refering to some unknow x who is not even related to the filim . Sriharivignesh ( talk) 06:45, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
Catchnews and andhraboxoffice websites are running by group of paid mafia in the name of trackers and not to be considered as the cite. Lumbercane ( talk) 04:11, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
Prakash Upadhyaya just copying the financial informations from the blog source Andhraboxoffice. Hereafter please wont consider him as a source Lumbercane ( talk) 04:19, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
This movie received mostly negative reviews only. But here you mentioned it as Mixed reviews which are not true. Mano cr ( talk) 08:20, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
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Vivegam (soundtrack) 2001:8F8:1825:13A4:9565:81AC:6EC9:EA3C ( talk) 07:16, 2 January 2022 (UTC)