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70.168.10.190 18:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
People pose questions on Yahoo Answers about the killings and this timeline presents an overview. I refer people here. For certain questions that a person may have a chronology gives a better answer than a narrative. If this is deleted at least let it stay for a month. Cherylyoung 01:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)cherylyoung
I think it should be combiNed with the main page rather than seperated. User:Steve C 13:24, 20 April 2007
When it was put in the main page, it was deleted because the main article was too long. The timelines from various news sources are difficult to find. This is well documented. The main article gives more space to responses than it did to the details of the incident. My preference would be to leave the timeline and make it a main article.
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15:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like the guy made a serious mistake, he says the bomb threats are not related to cho/the massacre yet notes are found in cho's room proving the opposite. Someone really needs to teach this Flinchum guy to not make an dumbass out himself Billtheking 10:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
"# 9:01 a.m.: Cho mails a package to NBC headquarters in New York, containing a manifesto, pictures of him holding weapons and a video clip in which he alludes to the coming massacre.
I'm sorry, I live in Blacksburg and there is NO WAY you can go from the Post Office on main street to Norris Hall in 4 minutes... or 10-12 minutes at that
Well, these time are based on news report, so it is ok if they are not that accurate. Chris 05:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
The US postal clerk listed the time on the envelope as 9:01. The reference to seeing Cho in Norris hall is from a witness and may not be accurate. Obviously, Cho went from the post office to Norris Hall, chained the doors and went to the second floor to shoot people. I believe that the 9:05 time may be inaccurage so I will change it to after 8 am. Is that OK? Cherylyoung 15:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Someone already changed it to 9_05 to 9:15 am Cherylyoung 15:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand. The article is clear. Chris 05:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate for someone to add that the NBC News President Steve Capus, described why the contents of the package arrived late, rather than the "next day"? Not implying anything, but rather stating the facts. Posterity should know.IMHO
"NBC executives had no explanation for why the network was singled out to receive the package, and nothing in the materials explained the action. Nothing on the envelope or in the package cited a specific individual at NBC.
The arrival in the mailroom set in motion intense decision making, much of it directed by Steve Capus, president of NBC News.
An NBC security officer, Brian Patton, opened the package, a large-size Express Mail envelope. The package had been intended to arrive in one day, but the address was wrong. Instead of 30 Rockefeller Plaza, it was “30 Rockefeller Ave.,” and the ZIP code was wrong.
Mr. Capus said Mr. Patton and everyone else at NBC who handled the original materials wore gloves. Mr. Capus did not see the contents until after copies had been made. "
Halcyon
18:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Despite this page being selected for keep... for completenesses sake i must ask what reason there is to keep a timeline that covers the events of a single article. All the details on this page are in the main article and it is basically a time stamped summary of Virginia Tech massacre. Wikipedia of course does not put up summaries of it's pages, and unless this is intergrated as a single event in a more major timeline then it serves no purpose within WIkipedia Guidelines, do remember that wikipedia is not here to provide different forms of every article. -- Jimmi Hugh 01:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Virginia Tech massacre#Virginia Tech massacre → Virginia Tech shootings — comment there, not here. — Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 11:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Please add to the timeline that Cho's roommates, Andy Koch along with John Eide admitted that they snooped in his belongings and that they had found nothing more threatening than a pocketknife [2] . It's also a part of the story, just like this "stalking" part. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merewyn ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC). Sigh, again forgot to sign Merewyn 20:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The article on the Columbine High School massacre has very precise details of the shooting, closely following the shooters' actions. Would it be possible for this article to have the same level of detail in the future? Since Wikipedia has a policy against original research, I personally guess that this will depend on how much information is released by the media. -- Ixfd64 01:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Currently the article says: "9:26 a.m.: E-mails were sent to campus staff, faculty, and students informing them of the dormitory shooting.[58]"
The email did not inform students of the dormitory shooting. The email said there has been a "shooting incident" in West AJ, without any further specifics. I can upload my personally received copy of the email for verification. Ryanluck ( talk) 16:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Saturday, March 31 (April 7, April 8 and April 13)
"Cho purchased additional ammunition magazines, ammunition and a hunting knife from Wal-Mart."
No Walmart location sells Glock magazines. The first referance mentions nothing of this, the second mentions that magazines were bought from either Walmart or Dicks Sporting Goods, obviously the latter. NYT is not known for its knowledge of firearms, obviously right wing subject matter. Taking this out.
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70.168.10.190 18:41, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
People pose questions on Yahoo Answers about the killings and this timeline presents an overview. I refer people here. For certain questions that a person may have a chronology gives a better answer than a narrative. If this is deleted at least let it stay for a month. Cherylyoung 01:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)cherylyoung
I think it should be combiNed with the main page rather than seperated. User:Steve C 13:24, 20 April 2007
When it was put in the main page, it was deleted because the main article was too long. The timelines from various news sources are difficult to find. This is well documented. The main article gives more space to responses than it did to the details of the incident. My preference would be to leave the timeline and make it a main article.
Cherylyoung
15:35, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Sounds like the guy made a serious mistake, he says the bomb threats are not related to cho/the massacre yet notes are found in cho's room proving the opposite. Someone really needs to teach this Flinchum guy to not make an dumbass out himself Billtheking 10:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
"# 9:01 a.m.: Cho mails a package to NBC headquarters in New York, containing a manifesto, pictures of him holding weapons and a video clip in which he alludes to the coming massacre.
I'm sorry, I live in Blacksburg and there is NO WAY you can go from the Post Office on main street to Norris Hall in 4 minutes... or 10-12 minutes at that
Well, these time are based on news report, so it is ok if they are not that accurate. Chris 05:06, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
The US postal clerk listed the time on the envelope as 9:01. The reference to seeing Cho in Norris hall is from a witness and may not be accurate. Obviously, Cho went from the post office to Norris Hall, chained the doors and went to the second floor to shoot people. I believe that the 9:05 time may be inaccurage so I will change it to after 8 am. Is that OK? Cherylyoung 15:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Someone already changed it to 9_05 to 9:15 am Cherylyoung 15:42, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand. The article is clear. Chris 05:08, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Would it be appropriate for someone to add that the NBC News President Steve Capus, described why the contents of the package arrived late, rather than the "next day"? Not implying anything, but rather stating the facts. Posterity should know.IMHO
"NBC executives had no explanation for why the network was singled out to receive the package, and nothing in the materials explained the action. Nothing on the envelope or in the package cited a specific individual at NBC.
The arrival in the mailroom set in motion intense decision making, much of it directed by Steve Capus, president of NBC News.
An NBC security officer, Brian Patton, opened the package, a large-size Express Mail envelope. The package had been intended to arrive in one day, but the address was wrong. Instead of 30 Rockefeller Plaza, it was “30 Rockefeller Ave.,” and the ZIP code was wrong.
Mr. Capus said Mr. Patton and everyone else at NBC who handled the original materials wore gloves. Mr. Capus did not see the contents until after copies had been made. "
Halcyon
18:46, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Despite this page being selected for keep... for completenesses sake i must ask what reason there is to keep a timeline that covers the events of a single article. All the details on this page are in the main article and it is basically a time stamped summary of Virginia Tech massacre. Wikipedia of course does not put up summaries of it's pages, and unless this is intergrated as a single event in a more major timeline then it serves no purpose within WIkipedia Guidelines, do remember that wikipedia is not here to provide different forms of every article. -- Jimmi Hugh 01:48, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Virginia Tech massacre#Virginia Tech massacre → Virginia Tech shootings — comment there, not here. — Signed, your friendly neighborhood MessedRocker. 11:07, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Please add to the timeline that Cho's roommates, Andy Koch along with John Eide admitted that they snooped in his belongings and that they had found nothing more threatening than a pocketknife [2] . It's also a part of the story, just like this "stalking" part. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merewyn ( talk • contribs) 20:01, 2 May 2007 (UTC). Sigh, again forgot to sign Merewyn 20:03, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
The article on the Columbine High School massacre has very precise details of the shooting, closely following the shooters' actions. Would it be possible for this article to have the same level of detail in the future? Since Wikipedia has a policy against original research, I personally guess that this will depend on how much information is released by the media. -- Ixfd64 01:07, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
Currently the article says: "9:26 a.m.: E-mails were sent to campus staff, faculty, and students informing them of the dormitory shooting.[58]"
The email did not inform students of the dormitory shooting. The email said there has been a "shooting incident" in West AJ, without any further specifics. I can upload my personally received copy of the email for verification. Ryanluck ( talk) 16:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
Saturday, March 31 (April 7, April 8 and April 13)
"Cho purchased additional ammunition magazines, ammunition and a hunting knife from Wal-Mart."
No Walmart location sells Glock magazines. The first referance mentions nothing of this, the second mentions that magazines were bought from either Walmart or Dicks Sporting Goods, obviously the latter. NYT is not known for its knowledge of firearms, obviously right wing subject matter. Taking this out.
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