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Dear Wiki users,The map of Vijayanagara empire seems to have a small correction.Vijayanagara empire of sangama dynasty never ruled whole srilanka and they ruled only the upper part of srilanka controlled by the Arya-chakravarthies during the time of 1441 AD to 1450 AD.Please verify it. Truk789 ( talk) 06:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
The sources do not mention that Vijayanagar ruled Sri Lanka. The cited atlas has several issues, as many of its kingdom maps are inaccurate, and it conflates the histories of multiple empires from the same era. DeepstoneV ( talk) 15:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello @ Joshua Jonathan, this is concerning my edit you recently reverted. The successor and predecessor states are concerned with the states that immediately succeed the entity after it disestablished and the states that directly precede the entity just before it was created. All the states I removed from the predecessor list were the states which in part or whole conquered by the Vijayanagar Empire after it was established and the ones I removed from the successors list are the states that conquered parts of the Vijaynagar Empire, but do not succeed it. See articles like Russian Empire and German Empire for comparison. PadFoot2008 ( talk) 11:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
During this period, more kingdoms in South India became independent and separate from Vijayanagara, including the Nayakas of Chitradurga, Keladi Nayaka, Mysore Kingdom, Nayak Kingdom of Gingee, Nayaks of Tanjore, and Nayaks of Madurai.[75]
Kautilya3 and I have a consensus on relying on reliable sources, and oppozing Hindu nationalists - no, just kidding. I looked-up the template for further explanation, but it only says "preceding entity" and "succeeding entity," which is not very helpfull. I'd say that there are wide margins, but I'll have a further look at your proposal. I don't know that much about the empire, I just know how to find and judge sources. Regards,
Joshua Jonathan -
Let's talk! 05:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
The
Bahamani Sultanate mostly did not cover the territory of the empire, so I disagree there. The
Hoysala Kingdom covered a large part of what became the empire, but not all of it. The article says:
The Vijayanagara Kingdom was founded in 1336 CE as a successor to the hitherto prosperous Hindu kingdoms of the Hoysalas, the Kakatiyas, and the Yadavas with the breakaway Kampili Kingdom adding a new dimension to the resistance to the Muslim invasion of South India.[19][23]
So, I think I disagree there too. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Previous uploaded map was in accurate Mnbnjghiryurr ( talk) 15:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
@ DeepstoneV@ Joshua Jonathan@ Sathyashraya@ Avantiputra7 @ Noorullah21 I want to propose a map change for Vijaynagar Empire as the current map of Vijanagar Empire which is this 1 does not show the extent of Empire from the perspective of whole subcontinent and it is not that graphically good too. Hence I wanted that this map 2 should be used in place of the earlier one(Source has been cited in the source section of the map). Let's have a consensus
Regards Rawn3012 ( talk) 06:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
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Dear Wiki users,The map of Vijayanagara empire seems to have a small correction.Vijayanagara empire of sangama dynasty never ruled whole srilanka and they ruled only the upper part of srilanka controlled by the Arya-chakravarthies during the time of 1441 AD to 1450 AD.Please verify it. Truk789 ( talk) 06:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
The sources do not mention that Vijayanagar ruled Sri Lanka. The cited atlas has several issues, as many of its kingdom maps are inaccurate, and it conflates the histories of multiple empires from the same era. DeepstoneV ( talk) 15:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello @ Joshua Jonathan, this is concerning my edit you recently reverted. The successor and predecessor states are concerned with the states that immediately succeed the entity after it disestablished and the states that directly precede the entity just before it was created. All the states I removed from the predecessor list were the states which in part or whole conquered by the Vijayanagar Empire after it was established and the ones I removed from the successors list are the states that conquered parts of the Vijaynagar Empire, but do not succeed it. See articles like Russian Empire and German Empire for comparison. PadFoot2008 ( talk) 11:26, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
During this period, more kingdoms in South India became independent and separate from Vijayanagara, including the Nayakas of Chitradurga, Keladi Nayaka, Mysore Kingdom, Nayak Kingdom of Gingee, Nayaks of Tanjore, and Nayaks of Madurai.[75]
Kautilya3 and I have a consensus on relying on reliable sources, and oppozing Hindu nationalists - no, just kidding. I looked-up the template for further explanation, but it only says "preceding entity" and "succeeding entity," which is not very helpfull. I'd say that there are wide margins, but I'll have a further look at your proposal. I don't know that much about the empire, I just know how to find and judge sources. Regards,
Joshua Jonathan -
Let's talk! 05:29, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
The
Bahamani Sultanate mostly did not cover the territory of the empire, so I disagree there. The
Hoysala Kingdom covered a large part of what became the empire, but not all of it. The article says:
The Vijayanagara Kingdom was founded in 1336 CE as a successor to the hitherto prosperous Hindu kingdoms of the Hoysalas, the Kakatiyas, and the Yadavas with the breakaway Kampili Kingdom adding a new dimension to the resistance to the Muslim invasion of South India.[19][23]
So, I think I disagree there too. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:39, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
Previous uploaded map was in accurate Mnbnjghiryurr ( talk) 15:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
@ DeepstoneV@ Joshua Jonathan@ Sathyashraya@ Avantiputra7 @ Noorullah21 I want to propose a map change for Vijaynagar Empire as the current map of Vijanagar Empire which is this 1 does not show the extent of Empire from the perspective of whole subcontinent and it is not that graphically good too. Hence I wanted that this map 2 should be used in place of the earlier one(Source has been cited in the source section of the map). Let's have a consensus
Regards Rawn3012 ( talk) 06:24, 11 May 2024 (UTC)