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It is proposed that a general article on Computer and video games be created to give an overview of the topic for the novice, and provide links to other, more specific articles for the passionate. This article is being drafted at Talk:Computer game/Computer and video games. It is proposed that the articles on Computer game, Video game, Adventure, Interactive fiction and Arcade game would remain, but focus on elements that are unique to those subcategories. Please edit, and discuss! Mark Richards 23:16, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Nitpick: I would disagree with redirecting "computer game" to "video game." Plainly, not all computer games are video games, as anyone who recognizes "phlug" and "a hollow voice says..." knows very well. If anything, the broader genus is indeed "computer game." Anyway, I'd say both deserve their own pages. MHO.
Video game is generally considered to be broader - people often refer to Quake as a video game, people never refer to Mario as a computer game. See for instance the recent /. article - it's never mentioned whether or not computer games are responsible for violence. Etymologically you'd be more correct, but people rarely worry about that sort of thing when they talk. Heck, note Zork and Ultima were already here.
The separation of the two is certainly canon, and I agree that it makes good sense for older games. The problem is that the distinction necessarily carries itself forward to the present, where it becomes a harmful anachronism. Games slip back and forth all the time, and Mario and Goldeneye pair up far better with Keen and Quake then which each other. Emulators make things even worse. This merging was brought about by the suggestion we be platform agnostic, and I can't say I disagree - there's plenty of room for separation when talking about genres or history. JG
But how to pigeonhole games by genre? There are so many examples of series that span many genre's and styles, that appear at first glance to be one thing, but are in fact another. Take for example the Tomb Raider entry, the fact that the first 3 instalments are 3d doesn't make it a 3d series, "huh?!?" there is a 2d Game Boy Color Tomb Raider. But that's just the beginning. A better example again is Panzer Dragoon, the first two games were on the rail shooters, the third, Panzer Dragoon Saga was an RPG. Best yet is Super Mario; 2d platform game? or 3d platform game? or kart racing game? or all three and then some more.
I haven't the answer, perhaps games that aren't so readily defined should he left just that, undefined. -- Neeklamy
Is the video game section going to be exhaustive? I presume so, so each genre now has a subpage. I suggest there be no more than half a dozen good examples of each genre on the main page, with the full list being on the specific subpage. -- Neeklamy
I suppose I'm being unnecessarily picky in re: Video game/FPS, but has anyone ever heard of any other kind of first person shooter? For instance, a first-person shooter movie, perhaps, or a poem, or maybe a painting? --KQ
This page, and Video Game/History sure do seem old-fashioned compared the the sleek, modern Wikipedia page. Very little has happened to them in a long time. Not my field, but a great opportunity for someone for some synthesis and reorganization. Ortolan88 20:56 Aug 8, 2002 (PDT)
Is "Video game" US terminology? To my antiquated UK perception there are "computer games" and "console games" of various genre (text, shoot em up, platform, simulation, ...) I have never heard of "video game" as a term before. -- SGBailey 23:14 Jan 17, 2003 (UTC)
I also think video game and computer game should be differentiated, because computer games include textual games which could be played purely verbally (by a blind person for instance), while video games by definition have an integral visual component. The pages should be about games, then both can link to a separate List of computer and video games. Stan 16:12 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
Whew. Re-organized and updated the video game listing to make it alphabetical and more aesthetically pleasing. Also rearranged some games to more properly fit under a genre, ie, Sokoban is listed as a puzzle game, now. With regards to "console game" vs. "video game" vs. "computer game", I feel that "video game" is an all-encompassing term, and console, computer, and arcade should each have their own pages that would be linked to from "video game." MHO. TimmyD 08:29 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
Moved this paragraph from the article (just before the list of genres):
I reworded what I left to make it descriptive of the list. But the paragraph above really doesn't belong in the article—it's a discussion of what the article needs.-- Frecklefoot
I just totally reformatted the Genre section. The old way drove me nuts! I realize that now the TOC is totally overloaded, but perhaps someone could do more reformatting so just the main genres are listed? I also added descriptions to each type of genre for a brief overview of the genre so they don't have to navigate to the entry to find out what the genre contains (they can still surf there for an in-depth discussion). I also added the new genre Serious games and re-alphabatized game listings. Comments, criticisms appreciated... — Frecklefoot 17:52, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I was wondering, what genre would be appropriate for games such as the video game adapations of
Law and Order and
CSI: Crime Scene Investigations. Are they a simulation or something else?
Do we really want this list in the article? It'll have to be changed from year to year. Wouldn't it be better to have a seperate article for these types of lists (I generally dislike articles which are just lists, but in this case I think it is fitting)? Anyone else?
Also, it seems to me that the section Video Game Criticism duplicates material already in video game controversy. I added a See also to that article, but perhaps we should look at merging the info into the seperate article. — Frecklefoot 19:17, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
I'm going to trim the entries of "Notable People" since many of the entries, frankly, aren't so notable. Here are the ones I propose to trim since their contributions to the video game industry are negligible. If anyone can demonstrate why they should be left in, please discuss here:
I'd like to keep the list trimmed to those individuals who have had a significant impact on video games or the industry. The people above, I feel, do not qualify and were most likely added by fans of the games they contributed to. While many of the games these people worked on are notable, their contribution doesn't merit inclusion in the list IMHO. I suggest someone start a List of notable video game industry people if they want to include every single person in the video game industry. From the entries above, it looks like there may need to be another list, List of notable video game composers. Anyway, I appreciate any feedback before I yank the people listed above. — Frecklefoot 16:56, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I'm fine with keeping Ken Kutaragi—I had no idea who he was and just being CEO of a gaming company doesn't, IMHO, make one "notable." If he is really the "father of the PS1 and PS2" we should perhaps add that to his credit line. I'm neutral on changing the heading to something else. But just "People" sounds too short to me. Awaiting further comments. — Frecklefoot 19:06, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Please can we merge Computer game and Video game? I see the discussion above, but we already have Adventure game and Interactive fiction. There is much duplication and it is frankly very confusing. 209.102.127.120 05:24, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I'm proposing that we take a crack at merging them at Talk:Computer game/Computer and video games - can we try, and then discuss it if we still hate it before we make any move? Mark Richards 19:03, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Just looking over the current state of the list again. It looks much better now, with the exception of two entries:
Are the Dragon Quest series and Chrono Trigger that big of a deal? I know Final Fantasy is very notable, but personally I can't recall the other two at all. I know we have a huge article on Dragon Quest, but that doesn't mean the game had a significant impact on the industry. Am I just out of touch or were the two game series actually as obscure as I think? — Frecklefoot 14:50, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
Well, I'm with Fredrik that those games aren't that notable. I've worked in the video game industry since 1993 and I never heard of them. Granted, I'm not able to keep up with all games that come out, but the big ones I usually catch wind of. If they are just a phenomena in Japan, I doubt they desrve a place in the list.
Expanding the list is fine, just as long as the people are notable. For example, I wrote the article on Jordan Mechner, but I'm unsure whether he deserves a place in the list or not.
I don't want to engage in an edit war, so let's resolve this here before making any more changes. Anyone else want to jump into the debate? — Frecklefoot 15:12, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
I didn't go off and just delete the entries. I asked for input first and the only response I got was "they're not notable" so I removed them (and left in the Final Fantasy creator Hironobu Sakaguchi). As far as Mechner goes, he designed, programmed (I think) and created the graphics for Prince of Persia. Even though PoP had an impact on the industry, I don't think it was significant enough to include in the list. And I agree that the new game isn't breaking any sort of records—the quality of animation in them is now pretty much industry standard. — Frecklefoot 15:36, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
Note to Snowspinner: GameFAQs polls are hardly a measure of anything :) But although it's true that these games are popular, popularity alone doesn't make the people behind them notable. This is really a minor issue though as long as the list is about as short as it is right now. Fredrik 15:43, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I don't think the issue is settled until people stop talking about it here. :-) I agree that Roberta Williams should be included (kind of on the fence about Romero, however—after Daikatana, he's had a hard time getting respect anymore. Also, DOOM and Quake were more notable for their technology rather than their stories). — Frecklefoot 16:07, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
In general, "notable" should be a pretty broad category - if someone is worth writing a WP article about, they must be at least that notable! In the interests of NPOV, we want to look for ways to make the "notability" decision algorithmic rather than personal; I personally would make it broad and say "principal developer(s) of any published game", since that helps make a complete web of people and games, but one could also make it narrower and say "only people involved with million-sellers" or some such (and yes, that would cut out respected games with poor sales, thus my preference for "any game"). An additional shorter list of "most important" or "most influential" should simply quote some authority's list, we really don't want to get into ridiculous fights about whether Carmack is more important than Crawford or whatever. :-) Stan 16:09, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
How about creating an article List of notable game industry figures (or something similar)? I think a complete list would be valuable, but I think it would just clutter the main article. This article could link to it and those interested could surf to it. I'd like to keep the list in the article concise. I'm not opposed to changing the name of the section, however. I like "Most influential," but that issue isn't a huge deal to me. — Frecklefoot 16:25, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
Here, here! The list we have in the article could be used as a springboard for anyone interested in creating it. But I vote for List of game industry people or List of game industry figures. — Frecklefoot 16:34, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
I agree. Perhaps List of game industry people is the best option. It is unambiguous and identical in meaning to List of people in the game industry, just more concise. For lists, I think we have to begin the name with "List." — Frecklefoot 17:03, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
We're having the mergence debate over at Category:Computer and video games as well. My first question is what the difference is between a Video game and a Console game. If there isn't any, then I suggest that we use Video game as the umbrella term and Console game to refer to those specifically for any console.
Not only would be it be linguistically correct (all arcade and computer games are technically video games), but it would allow us to keep the articles and their histories seperate while giving us a managable name (other wise we'd need something like List of sports computer, arcade and video games, which is just unwieldly). Oberiko 10:15, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
------------------------------- | | | Video games | | | | --------- -------- | | | Console | | Arcade | | | | games | | games | | | --------- -------- | | | | -------------------+------- | | | | -----------+------------------- | | | | Computer games | | | ---------------------------
I think the real problem is that "computer games", on Wikipedia and elsewhere, is mainly used to refer to "PC games instead of console games" rather than "electronic games that may or may not use video". Fredrik (talk) 18:27, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Maybe on computer game we could add something like:
Fredrik (talk) 18:45, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
We're holding a vote on wheter or not Video games should be an umbrella term or not. Go to Category talk:Computer and video games to cast. Oberiko 12:29, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The extern links section is getting pretty lengthy. I propose we split it up into different sub-sections to make it more useful. Example sub-sections could include Reviews, Technical info, Development, Directories, etc. Anyone have any other subsection ideas? — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:11, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)
It has come to concern me that the English language Wikipedia articles for video game topics tend to center on the North American or United States locales for naming articles. For example, we have article names like Final Fantasy Legend and Samurai Shodown, which were not the names of these games in their production locale, Japan. Now it seems to me that, this being the English Wikipedia, it really has nothing to do with nationality — we are not Americans, not British, not Canadian, not Australian, not New Zealander, etc. When we are here, we are more simply anglophones, English-speakers, and we can come from any place on earth, whether or not it is an anglophone country. So I propose this: We name all video game related articles first according to the names of their production locale, with redirects going to that article name, and sometimes with additional articles if the subject has a very different nature in a non-native locale, such as with the separate PC Engine and TurboGrafx 16 articles. - Gilgamesh 10:12, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Also notice the Mega Man article, which is called "Rockman" in its production locale Japan, and was renamed "Mega Man" in North America and Europe for marketing purposes. All alternative names (and an indication of where those names are used) could be mentioned on a single canonical article in most cases. - Gilgamesh 10:12, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Moved to WikiProject Computer and Video Games.
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Change "hardwares" in the PC and Handheld sections to "hardware". Hardware is a mass noun, and as such it doesn't have a plural form. 83.32.234.140 ( talk) 09:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
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In that section, it should say that Nintendo is a major console produces. Everybody knows that they have more consoles than Xbox or Playstation. They also should be in there because their famous; Mario is the most popular guy or francise in video game history.-- Ramesty ( talk) 03:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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This part "video games on desktop and laptop computers and smartphones." Should also mention Tablets as well 24.97.253.174 ( talk) 14:17, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Today a lot of the older versions of video game consoles are being reborn. The Super Nintendo is being reborn as a smaller version but will be able to hold the older video games. They also had a new Nintendo Classic which was smaller than the original and used the older games.
Nobody now refers to non-IBM Compatible PC computer games as PC games, they are usually referred to as Amstrad Games, Amiga Games or grouped together as Computer Games - how come Computer Games doesn't have a section, but specifically PC games does? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.141.11 ( talk) 12:46, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
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Video games usually is addictive to children and distracts them from doing anything else.Furthermore,it lowers their IQ {wich shows how smart they are} and it may give them headaches.It would have the same effect if they had their head hit by a rock.Sometimes their eyeballs shrink if looking at the screen for too long and also hurt their eyes and damage their eyesight making it poor. 88.98.219.59 ( talk) 19:31, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
This page covers a lot of useful information about video games. From the process of making to what video games are. It also gives a lot of good details, like information on different events and information about censorship. The only thing that can be improved, in my opinion, is the educational part of playing video games. There is much more to cover, and this page includes only a small part of it.
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There was a study in 2013 where they got 20 children and divided them in to two groups of ten one group played AVG (action video games) and the other group played NAVG (non-action video games) they were tested before and after playing video games the children’s attentional reading and phonological skills . They found that the AVG group without affection there accuracy improved the children’s reading speed also their attention skills. This was done over nine sessions of 80 minutes per day adding up to 12 hours in total also the NAVG did not have the same benefit as the AVG put did have the same routine to also add that it was done on Nintendo Wii gaming console [1]
benefits of the Xbox 360 for children with cereal palsy(CP) to be more pacific is the Xbox 360’s motion capture device Kinect also there were 11 children who took part 5 being boys and 6 being girls also around the age of 8 years old. The study lasted 8 weeks in which the children where tester before and after playing Xbox 360’s Kinect on their balance, gait speed Jumping and running and fine manual finger dexterity also there motor and process skills. What they have gathered from there study is that the Xbox 360 Kinect has some benefits for the children in some of the areas they tested in but not all also adding that some motion capture games could be used as a tool for rehabilitation for children with CP.
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the effects of one switch games for children with severe motor disabilities also there were only 8 children in the study but only 7 could the children could play and interact the mini games from Gnomon. They worked closely with a team from their local health agencies who know Physiotherapists, speech therapists and psychologists. They found that some games for children with severe mother disabilities (smd) is that some video games can be very fast paced and some children can keep up with the time response and quick decision making the player must make for their character to succeed in there game also they may not be able to use the standard controls that some video game console uses like mouse, keyboard (used by PC) or controllers (Xbox and PlayStation) this is where one switch games help children with smd benefit as it not focus on time quick decision making. The found that 7 out of 8 of the children could reach the goals of the game while enjoying the game.
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It is proposed that a general article on Computer and video games be created to give an overview of the topic for the novice, and provide links to other, more specific articles for the passionate. This article is being drafted at Talk:Computer game/Computer and video games. It is proposed that the articles on Computer game, Video game, Adventure, Interactive fiction and Arcade game would remain, but focus on elements that are unique to those subcategories. Please edit, and discuss! Mark Richards 23:16, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Nitpick: I would disagree with redirecting "computer game" to "video game." Plainly, not all computer games are video games, as anyone who recognizes "phlug" and "a hollow voice says..." knows very well. If anything, the broader genus is indeed "computer game." Anyway, I'd say both deserve their own pages. MHO.
Video game is generally considered to be broader - people often refer to Quake as a video game, people never refer to Mario as a computer game. See for instance the recent /. article - it's never mentioned whether or not computer games are responsible for violence. Etymologically you'd be more correct, but people rarely worry about that sort of thing when they talk. Heck, note Zork and Ultima were already here.
The separation of the two is certainly canon, and I agree that it makes good sense for older games. The problem is that the distinction necessarily carries itself forward to the present, where it becomes a harmful anachronism. Games slip back and forth all the time, and Mario and Goldeneye pair up far better with Keen and Quake then which each other. Emulators make things even worse. This merging was brought about by the suggestion we be platform agnostic, and I can't say I disagree - there's plenty of room for separation when talking about genres or history. JG
But how to pigeonhole games by genre? There are so many examples of series that span many genre's and styles, that appear at first glance to be one thing, but are in fact another. Take for example the Tomb Raider entry, the fact that the first 3 instalments are 3d doesn't make it a 3d series, "huh?!?" there is a 2d Game Boy Color Tomb Raider. But that's just the beginning. A better example again is Panzer Dragoon, the first two games were on the rail shooters, the third, Panzer Dragoon Saga was an RPG. Best yet is Super Mario; 2d platform game? or 3d platform game? or kart racing game? or all three and then some more.
I haven't the answer, perhaps games that aren't so readily defined should he left just that, undefined. -- Neeklamy
Is the video game section going to be exhaustive? I presume so, so each genre now has a subpage. I suggest there be no more than half a dozen good examples of each genre on the main page, with the full list being on the specific subpage. -- Neeklamy
I suppose I'm being unnecessarily picky in re: Video game/FPS, but has anyone ever heard of any other kind of first person shooter? For instance, a first-person shooter movie, perhaps, or a poem, or maybe a painting? --KQ
This page, and Video Game/History sure do seem old-fashioned compared the the sleek, modern Wikipedia page. Very little has happened to them in a long time. Not my field, but a great opportunity for someone for some synthesis and reorganization. Ortolan88 20:56 Aug 8, 2002 (PDT)
Is "Video game" US terminology? To my antiquated UK perception there are "computer games" and "console games" of various genre (text, shoot em up, platform, simulation, ...) I have never heard of "video game" as a term before. -- SGBailey 23:14 Jan 17, 2003 (UTC)
I also think video game and computer game should be differentiated, because computer games include textual games which could be played purely verbally (by a blind person for instance), while video games by definition have an integral visual component. The pages should be about games, then both can link to a separate List of computer and video games. Stan 16:12 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
Whew. Re-organized and updated the video game listing to make it alphabetical and more aesthetically pleasing. Also rearranged some games to more properly fit under a genre, ie, Sokoban is listed as a puzzle game, now. With regards to "console game" vs. "video game" vs. "computer game", I feel that "video game" is an all-encompassing term, and console, computer, and arcade should each have their own pages that would be linked to from "video game." MHO. TimmyD 08:29 Apr 29, 2003 (UTC)
Moved this paragraph from the article (just before the list of genres):
I reworded what I left to make it descriptive of the list. But the paragraph above really doesn't belong in the article—it's a discussion of what the article needs.-- Frecklefoot
I just totally reformatted the Genre section. The old way drove me nuts! I realize that now the TOC is totally overloaded, but perhaps someone could do more reformatting so just the main genres are listed? I also added descriptions to each type of genre for a brief overview of the genre so they don't have to navigate to the entry to find out what the genre contains (they can still surf there for an in-depth discussion). I also added the new genre Serious games and re-alphabatized game listings. Comments, criticisms appreciated... — Frecklefoot 17:52, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
I was wondering, what genre would be appropriate for games such as the video game adapations of
Law and Order and
CSI: Crime Scene Investigations. Are they a simulation or something else?
Do we really want this list in the article? It'll have to be changed from year to year. Wouldn't it be better to have a seperate article for these types of lists (I generally dislike articles which are just lists, but in this case I think it is fitting)? Anyone else?
Also, it seems to me that the section Video Game Criticism duplicates material already in video game controversy. I added a See also to that article, but perhaps we should look at merging the info into the seperate article. — Frecklefoot 19:17, 6 Nov 2003 (UTC)
I'm going to trim the entries of "Notable People" since many of the entries, frankly, aren't so notable. Here are the ones I propose to trim since their contributions to the video game industry are negligible. If anyone can demonstrate why they should be left in, please discuss here:
I'd like to keep the list trimmed to those individuals who have had a significant impact on video games or the industry. The people above, I feel, do not qualify and were most likely added by fans of the games they contributed to. While many of the games these people worked on are notable, their contribution doesn't merit inclusion in the list IMHO. I suggest someone start a List of notable video game industry people if they want to include every single person in the video game industry. From the entries above, it looks like there may need to be another list, List of notable video game composers. Anyway, I appreciate any feedback before I yank the people listed above. — Frecklefoot 16:56, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
I'm fine with keeping Ken Kutaragi—I had no idea who he was and just being CEO of a gaming company doesn't, IMHO, make one "notable." If he is really the "father of the PS1 and PS2" we should perhaps add that to his credit line. I'm neutral on changing the heading to something else. But just "People" sounds too short to me. Awaiting further comments. — Frecklefoot 19:06, 15 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Please can we merge Computer game and Video game? I see the discussion above, but we already have Adventure game and Interactive fiction. There is much duplication and it is frankly very confusing. 209.102.127.120 05:24, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
I'm proposing that we take a crack at merging them at Talk:Computer game/Computer and video games - can we try, and then discuss it if we still hate it before we make any move? Mark Richards 19:03, 25 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Just looking over the current state of the list again. It looks much better now, with the exception of two entries:
Are the Dragon Quest series and Chrono Trigger that big of a deal? I know Final Fantasy is very notable, but personally I can't recall the other two at all. I know we have a huge article on Dragon Quest, but that doesn't mean the game had a significant impact on the industry. Am I just out of touch or were the two game series actually as obscure as I think? — Frecklefoot 14:50, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
Well, I'm with Fredrik that those games aren't that notable. I've worked in the video game industry since 1993 and I never heard of them. Granted, I'm not able to keep up with all games that come out, but the big ones I usually catch wind of. If they are just a phenomena in Japan, I doubt they desrve a place in the list.
Expanding the list is fine, just as long as the people are notable. For example, I wrote the article on Jordan Mechner, but I'm unsure whether he deserves a place in the list or not.
I don't want to engage in an edit war, so let's resolve this here before making any more changes. Anyone else want to jump into the debate? — Frecklefoot 15:12, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
I didn't go off and just delete the entries. I asked for input first and the only response I got was "they're not notable" so I removed them (and left in the Final Fantasy creator Hironobu Sakaguchi). As far as Mechner goes, he designed, programmed (I think) and created the graphics for Prince of Persia. Even though PoP had an impact on the industry, I don't think it was significant enough to include in the list. And I agree that the new game isn't breaking any sort of records—the quality of animation in them is now pretty much industry standard. — Frecklefoot 15:36, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
Note to Snowspinner: GameFAQs polls are hardly a measure of anything :) But although it's true that these games are popular, popularity alone doesn't make the people behind them notable. This is really a minor issue though as long as the list is about as short as it is right now. Fredrik 15:43, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
I don't think the issue is settled until people stop talking about it here. :-) I agree that Roberta Williams should be included (kind of on the fence about Romero, however—after Daikatana, he's had a hard time getting respect anymore. Also, DOOM and Quake were more notable for their technology rather than their stories). — Frecklefoot 16:07, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
In general, "notable" should be a pretty broad category - if someone is worth writing a WP article about, they must be at least that notable! In the interests of NPOV, we want to look for ways to make the "notability" decision algorithmic rather than personal; I personally would make it broad and say "principal developer(s) of any published game", since that helps make a complete web of people and games, but one could also make it narrower and say "only people involved with million-sellers" or some such (and yes, that would cut out respected games with poor sales, thus my preference for "any game"). An additional shorter list of "most important" or "most influential" should simply quote some authority's list, we really don't want to get into ridiculous fights about whether Carmack is more important than Crawford or whatever. :-) Stan 16:09, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
How about creating an article List of notable game industry figures (or something similar)? I think a complete list would be valuable, but I think it would just clutter the main article. This article could link to it and those interested could surf to it. I'd like to keep the list in the article concise. I'm not opposed to changing the name of the section, however. I like "Most influential," but that issue isn't a huge deal to me. — Frecklefoot 16:25, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
Here, here! The list we have in the article could be used as a springboard for anyone interested in creating it. But I vote for List of game industry people or List of game industry figures. — Frecklefoot 16:34, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
I agree. Perhaps List of game industry people is the best option. It is unambiguous and identical in meaning to List of people in the game industry, just more concise. For lists, I think we have to begin the name with "List." — Frecklefoot 17:03, Apr 20, 2004 (UTC)
We're having the mergence debate over at Category:Computer and video games as well. My first question is what the difference is between a Video game and a Console game. If there isn't any, then I suggest that we use Video game as the umbrella term and Console game to refer to those specifically for any console.
Not only would be it be linguistically correct (all arcade and computer games are technically video games), but it would allow us to keep the articles and their histories seperate while giving us a managable name (other wise we'd need something like List of sports computer, arcade and video games, which is just unwieldly). Oberiko 10:15, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
------------------------------- | | | Video games | | | | --------- -------- | | | Console | | Arcade | | | | games | | games | | | --------- -------- | | | | -------------------+------- | | | | -----------+------------------- | | | | Computer games | | | ---------------------------
I think the real problem is that "computer games", on Wikipedia and elsewhere, is mainly used to refer to "PC games instead of console games" rather than "electronic games that may or may not use video". Fredrik (talk) 18:27, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Maybe on computer game we could add something like:
Fredrik (talk) 18:45, 17 Jun 2004 (UTC)
We're holding a vote on wheter or not Video games should be an umbrella term or not. Go to Category talk:Computer and video games to cast. Oberiko 12:29, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
The extern links section is getting pretty lengthy. I propose we split it up into different sub-sections to make it more useful. Example sub-sections could include Reviews, Technical info, Development, Directories, etc. Anyone have any other subsection ideas? — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:11, Jul 30, 2004 (UTC)
It has come to concern me that the English language Wikipedia articles for video game topics tend to center on the North American or United States locales for naming articles. For example, we have article names like Final Fantasy Legend and Samurai Shodown, which were not the names of these games in their production locale, Japan. Now it seems to me that, this being the English Wikipedia, it really has nothing to do with nationality — we are not Americans, not British, not Canadian, not Australian, not New Zealander, etc. When we are here, we are more simply anglophones, English-speakers, and we can come from any place on earth, whether or not it is an anglophone country. So I propose this: We name all video game related articles first according to the names of their production locale, with redirects going to that article name, and sometimes with additional articles if the subject has a very different nature in a non-native locale, such as with the separate PC Engine and TurboGrafx 16 articles. - Gilgamesh 10:12, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Also notice the Mega Man article, which is called "Rockman" in its production locale Japan, and was renamed "Mega Man" in North America and Europe for marketing purposes. All alternative names (and an indication of where those names are used) could be mentioned on a single canonical article in most cases. - Gilgamesh 10:12, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Moved to WikiProject Computer and Video Games.
Any danger of a better screenshot than this? Intrigue 23:16, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)
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Change "hardwares" in the PC and Handheld sections to "hardware". Hardware is a mass noun, and as such it doesn't have a plural form. 83.32.234.140 ( talk) 09:09, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
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I would like to edit this please. TopgunnergamingYT9 ( talk) 23:13, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
In that section, it should say that Nintendo is a major console produces. Everybody knows that they have more consoles than Xbox or Playstation. They also should be in there because their famous; Mario is the most popular guy or francise in video game history.-- Ramesty ( talk) 03:56, 31 August 2017 (UTC)
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This part "video games on desktop and laptop computers and smartphones." Should also mention Tablets as well 24.97.253.174 ( talk) 14:17, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
Today a lot of the older versions of video game consoles are being reborn. The Super Nintendo is being reborn as a smaller version but will be able to hold the older video games. They also had a new Nintendo Classic which was smaller than the original and used the older games.
Nobody now refers to non-IBM Compatible PC computer games as PC games, they are usually referred to as Amstrad Games, Amiga Games or grouped together as Computer Games - how come Computer Games doesn't have a section, but specifically PC games does? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.32.141.11 ( talk) 12:46, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
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Video games usually is addictive to children and distracts them from doing anything else.Furthermore,it lowers their IQ {wich shows how smart they are} and it may give them headaches.It would have the same effect if they had their head hit by a rock.Sometimes their eyeballs shrink if looking at the screen for too long and also hurt their eyes and damage their eyesight making it poor. 88.98.219.59 ( talk) 19:31, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
This page covers a lot of useful information about video games. From the process of making to what video games are. It also gives a lot of good details, like information on different events and information about censorship. The only thing that can be improved, in my opinion, is the educational part of playing video games. There is much more to cover, and this page includes only a small part of it.
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There was a study in 2013 where they got 20 children and divided them in to two groups of ten one group played AVG (action video games) and the other group played NAVG (non-action video games) they were tested before and after playing video games the children’s attentional reading and phonological skills . They found that the AVG group without affection there accuracy improved the children’s reading speed also their attention skills. This was done over nine sessions of 80 minutes per day adding up to 12 hours in total also the NAVG did not have the same benefit as the AVG put did have the same routine to also add that it was done on Nintendo Wii gaming console [1]
benefits of the Xbox 360 for children with cereal palsy(CP) to be more pacific is the Xbox 360’s motion capture device Kinect also there were 11 children who took part 5 being boys and 6 being girls also around the age of 8 years old. The study lasted 8 weeks in which the children where tester before and after playing Xbox 360’s Kinect on their balance, gait speed Jumping and running and fine manual finger dexterity also there motor and process skills. What they have gathered from there study is that the Xbox 360 Kinect has some benefits for the children in some of the areas they tested in but not all also adding that some motion capture games could be used as a tool for rehabilitation for children with CP.
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the effects of one switch games for children with severe motor disabilities also there were only 8 children in the study but only 7 could the children could play and interact the mini games from Gnomon. They worked closely with a team from their local health agencies who know Physiotherapists, speech therapists and psychologists. They found that some games for children with severe mother disabilities (smd) is that some video games can be very fast paced and some children can keep up with the time response and quick decision making the player must make for their character to succeed in there game also they may not be able to use the standard controls that some video game console uses like mouse, keyboard (used by PC) or controllers (Xbox and PlayStation) this is where one switch games help children with smd benefit as it not focus on time quick decision making. The found that 7 out of 8 of the children could reach the goals of the game while enjoying the game.
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