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On a point of legal order, here. Vidal Sassoon's mother is wrongly discribed in the article as a single mother. She was no such thing.
A "single" person is someone who has never been married. Madame Sassoon was, in generic terms, an "unmarried" person. In specific terms, she was a "divorcée" - as opposed to a "widow", which is the other type of unmarried woman. An unmarried man is either a "divorcé" or a "widower" - only a man who has never been married is a "single" man.
The distinction is particularly important in property law and in family law (especially in community property jurisdictions). If a real estate contract or property deed incorrectly identifies a single person as "unmarried", a question potentially arises whether the property might become subject to a divorce proceeding (which could drastically slow down the financing process, while the bank tries to ascertain whether the person is divorced or widowed - only to discover he/she was actually single. Conversely, a deed or contract of sale for real property that identifies an unmarried person as a single person could result in a nuisance suit for fraud by the party's ex-spouse, if he/she was a divorcé/divorcée; among other problems.
So, it's important to use the correct terminology. Vidal Sassoon's mother was an "unmarried" mother, or she was a "divorcée"; but she was not a "single" mother since she was married to his father at the time he was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.146.98 ( talk) 05:54, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Is Vidal Sassoon any relation to Siegfried Sassoon? SigPig 18:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
No he is not. Vidal was a Greek/Ukrainian Jew, and not a descendant of the Sassoon family that Siegfried was part of.
Are you sure? The article on David Sassoon says: "All the Sassoons of Europe are said to be descendants of David Sassoon", and Seigfried was certainly of the same family as David. Cravenmonket 00:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about Mr. Sassoon's father's lineage in particular, but I do know that the Sassoon family, descended from David Sassoon, did spread throughout the Mediterranean and Near East, and not all of his sons went with him to Britain, so it is conceivable that a branch settled in Greece. Felgerkarb 13:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Vidal is of Iraqi descent, because the Sassons are Baghdadi Jews that originate from Iraq, thats to the retard that keeps on editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.10.125 ( talk) 15:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I study at the University of Ghent and in my English literature textbook, there is stated that Vidal belongs to the same family as Siegfried. I hope this can be a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.241.77.36 ( talk) 12:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
"one of the most influential hairdressers of the mid-1960s" - in what sense are hairdressers influential? Adam
They're influential in setting fashion trends, which reflect the times people are living in. Roaming27 05:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Look at any cultural magazine from the sixties and seventies and you'll see Sassoon's influence all over the images. He created some of the most popular and iconic hairstyles of the late twentieth -- rather, the whole twentieth -- century. That makes him, a hairdresser, influential. ask123 ( talk) 21:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I added "He has authored several books, including A Year of Beauty and Health co-written with his former wife, Beverly Sassoon." because I read the book way back in about 1977. Roaming27 07:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Was Sassoon actually Israeli? I thought he was a British citizen born in England and therefore British. He traveled to Israel as a young man, but that doesn't make him Israeli. ask123 ( talk) 07:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, if he was given Israeli citizenship upon his arrival to Israel, then doesn't that make him a citizen of Britain and Israel? ask123 ( talk) 21:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I think it would make sense to include a picture of the hairstyle he's famous for reviving...should we borrow a free image from an article on one of the people who wore this cut? Nancy Kwan? Jean Muir? Juliette Gréco? Mireille Mathieu? I'm concerned about potential OR since I myself don't know what the specific cut he did looked like. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 22:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The category "Procter & Gamble brands" seems a bit odd to me to apply to a person. If there were an article on "Vidal Sassoon (brand)" or something similar, that would be more appropriate. HandsomeFella ( talk) 07:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Weve go the "if youre not happy, were not happy" (which suddenly sounded familiar to me ;)) but what about the "bouncy hair, is sassoon quality hair". Was popular some 15 odd years ago Lihaas ( talk) 11:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
This source does not establish to my satisfaction that he self-identified in this way. Per WP:BLP I have removed it. Any opinions? -- John ( talk) 01:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
John, don't push your luck. This idea that we're going to "debate" about whether people who are fully Jewish and have been described as Jewish by reliable sources and have described themselves as Jewish should be categorized as "Jewish" - well, we're not gonna do that. Find another way to occupy your time. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 04:56, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Without wishing to trivialize the loss of Vidal Sassoon to his family, but I could not understand the recent comment added to the article: "His death was originally reported to be a result of natural causes,and later reported to have been a result of his leukemia." Is Leukaemia not a natural cause?-- SouthernFrog ( talk) 11:48, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
I've repeatedly removed this purple prose from the article:
His father, a womaniser, left his family when Vidal was three years old. [1]
It fails, I would argue, WP:BLP and it is well-established that the Daily Mail is not a good source for material like this. Any other opinions? -- John ( talk) 15:17, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, and the consensus there (so far) is that we cannot use the Mail for material of this type, as I said a while ago. -- John ( talk) 21:07, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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On a point of legal order, here. Vidal Sassoon's mother is wrongly discribed in the article as a single mother. She was no such thing.
A "single" person is someone who has never been married. Madame Sassoon was, in generic terms, an "unmarried" person. In specific terms, she was a "divorcée" - as opposed to a "widow", which is the other type of unmarried woman. An unmarried man is either a "divorcé" or a "widower" - only a man who has never been married is a "single" man.
The distinction is particularly important in property law and in family law (especially in community property jurisdictions). If a real estate contract or property deed incorrectly identifies a single person as "unmarried", a question potentially arises whether the property might become subject to a divorce proceeding (which could drastically slow down the financing process, while the bank tries to ascertain whether the person is divorced or widowed - only to discover he/she was actually single. Conversely, a deed or contract of sale for real property that identifies an unmarried person as a single person could result in a nuisance suit for fraud by the party's ex-spouse, if he/she was a divorcé/divorcée; among other problems.
So, it's important to use the correct terminology. Vidal Sassoon's mother was an "unmarried" mother, or she was a "divorcée"; but she was not a "single" mother since she was married to his father at the time he was born. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.198.146.98 ( talk) 05:54, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
Is Vidal Sassoon any relation to Siegfried Sassoon? SigPig 18:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
No he is not. Vidal was a Greek/Ukrainian Jew, and not a descendant of the Sassoon family that Siegfried was part of.
Are you sure? The article on David Sassoon says: "All the Sassoons of Europe are said to be descendants of David Sassoon", and Seigfried was certainly of the same family as David. Cravenmonket 00:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
I don't know about Mr. Sassoon's father's lineage in particular, but I do know that the Sassoon family, descended from David Sassoon, did spread throughout the Mediterranean and Near East, and not all of his sons went with him to Britain, so it is conceivable that a branch settled in Greece. Felgerkarb 13:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Vidal is of Iraqi descent, because the Sassons are Baghdadi Jews that originate from Iraq, thats to the retard that keeps on editing it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.10.125 ( talk) 15:55, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I study at the University of Ghent and in my English literature textbook, there is stated that Vidal belongs to the same family as Siegfried. I hope this can be a reliable source. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.241.77.36 ( talk) 12:10, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
"one of the most influential hairdressers of the mid-1960s" - in what sense are hairdressers influential? Adam
They're influential in setting fashion trends, which reflect the times people are living in. Roaming27 05:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Look at any cultural magazine from the sixties and seventies and you'll see Sassoon's influence all over the images. He created some of the most popular and iconic hairstyles of the late twentieth -- rather, the whole twentieth -- century. That makes him, a hairdresser, influential. ask123 ( talk) 21:33, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I added "He has authored several books, including A Year of Beauty and Health co-written with his former wife, Beverly Sassoon." because I read the book way back in about 1977. Roaming27 07:06, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
Was Sassoon actually Israeli? I thought he was a British citizen born in England and therefore British. He traveled to Israel as a young man, but that doesn't make him Israeli. ask123 ( talk) 07:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
Also, if he was given Israeli citizenship upon his arrival to Israel, then doesn't that make him a citizen of Britain and Israel? ask123 ( talk) 21:30, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
I think it would make sense to include a picture of the hairstyle he's famous for reviving...should we borrow a free image from an article on one of the people who wore this cut? Nancy Kwan? Jean Muir? Juliette Gréco? Mireille Mathieu? I'm concerned about potential OR since I myself don't know what the specific cut he did looked like. – Roscelese ( talk ⋅ contribs) 22:09, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
The category "Procter & Gamble brands" seems a bit odd to me to apply to a person. If there were an article on "Vidal Sassoon (brand)" or something similar, that would be more appropriate. HandsomeFella ( talk) 07:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
Weve go the "if youre not happy, were not happy" (which suddenly sounded familiar to me ;)) but what about the "bouncy hair, is sassoon quality hair". Was popular some 15 odd years ago Lihaas ( talk) 11:37, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
This source does not establish to my satisfaction that he self-identified in this way. Per WP:BLP I have removed it. Any opinions? -- John ( talk) 01:24, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
John, don't push your luck. This idea that we're going to "debate" about whether people who are fully Jewish and have been described as Jewish by reliable sources and have described themselves as Jewish should be categorized as "Jewish" - well, we're not gonna do that. Find another way to occupy your time. All Hallow's Wraith ( talk) 04:56, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Without wishing to trivialize the loss of Vidal Sassoon to his family, but I could not understand the recent comment added to the article: "His death was originally reported to be a result of natural causes,and later reported to have been a result of his leukemia." Is Leukaemia not a natural cause?-- SouthernFrog ( talk) 11:48, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
I've repeatedly removed this purple prose from the article:
His father, a womaniser, left his family when Vidal was three years old. [1]
It fails, I would argue, WP:BLP and it is well-established that the Daily Mail is not a good source for material like this. Any other opinions? -- John ( talk) 15:17, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
Yes, and the consensus there (so far) is that we cannot use the Mail for material of this type, as I said a while ago. -- John ( talk) 21:07, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
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