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Having both the Education and Alma Mater sections in the infobox seems redundant. I suggest removing the Education section and simply having an Alma Mater section with his degree institutions (Baroda [BS] and Ohio [PhD]). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.46.28.44 ( talk) 20:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Please remove Annamalai University from infobox. Seems like Prof M S Govindarajan is getting him confused with some other student of same name. See: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Venki-Ramakrishnan-miffed-at-emails-from-India/articleshow/5120125.cms 192.250.175.26 ( talk) 16:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Rakesh
The Nobel site says Ramakrishnan is a UK citizen. Does he have dual American/British citizenship ? 161.24.19.112 ( talk) 12:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that we cut all reference to his citizenship. It seems unclear for the moment (maybe it will be cleared up later) and, more importantly, it's irrelevant to his achievements. Per WP:BLP, we should be propagating personal information about living people that we're not sure about, especially when it's irrelevant to that person's notability. He was born in Tamil Nadu, India, that much everyone is clear about, let's just leave it at that for the moment. Physchim62 (talk) 14:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
He is an American Citizen of Indian Origin. See what a big loss for India!! If India has truly allowed a Dual Citizenship, I am sure he would have taken it. And, we could have proudly said that he is an Indian Citizen. Now, every where his identity will be printed as American!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.32.207 ( talk) 15:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
please understand, that ethnicity is not the same as nation or race. -- Misssss ( talk) 09:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
As there appears to be an ongoing edit war over the ethnicity tag in the infobox I have removed it for now. -- Pontificalibus ( talk) 21:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I did cite the CIA resource, " https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/in.html" from where I got it. Pranabnaik ( talk) 21:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
122.162.18.204 ( talk) 22:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
It's not :-) -- Pontificalibus ( talk) 22:25, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
"This file is a candidate for speedy deletion. It may be deleted after Wednesday, 14 October 2009." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.18.204 ( talk) 22:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
An article's lead is just the summary of what is in the article and should be kept to the point, I have made the changes because
-- Sodabottle ( talk) 07:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
As an active wikipedian in scientific editing and a follower of ribosome structures, I'd like to comment that I believe the current name of this article (without "Sir") is indeed the appropriate one. It seems that Ramakrishnan himself (as riboman) directly edited the article to remove the title he does not like to use; however, if he had asked me to do that I certainly would have. The article very clearly documents his knighthood, which fulfills the encyclopedic necessity for correctness and completeness. As far as the article name for living persons, in the other cases I've been involved with or seen discussions on, such questions are decided by what is the name in common usage (which of course usually follows the subject's own wishes), such as whether or not a woman's maiden name should be included. Within the scientific community, no one refers to Venki as "Sir" without a laugh or an apology! Dcrjsr ( talk) 16:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
So Lalita Ramakrishnan, Venki's sister was just named to the National Academy ( http://www.cam.ac.uk/for-staff/awards/lalita-ramakrishnan-elected-to-the-us-national-academy-of-sciences). Perhaps there should be some mention of her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.152.173 ( talk) 10:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I've removed the {{
request edit}}
template from the Personal life section, since it seems to only refer to the ridiculous
battle (Jan 2016) over his anti-homeopathy comments in the Hindustan Times
[1] (same goes for the short lived Controversy section). I've opted to omit description of his stance against homeopathy, since his opposition to pseudoscience is shared by pretty much all scientists.
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
talk
12:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
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Why are edits re Ramakrishnan's knighthood constantly removed when the correct prefix of 'Sir' is added?
As a holder of a knighthood he is entitled to that prefix, regardless of whether he uses it professionally. In fact, the Royal Society website refers to him as Sir Venki Ramakrishnan ( https://royalsociety.org/about-us/committees/council/).
The writer and author Jonathan Miller's page has him correctly listed as Sir Jonathan Miller, as he holds a knighthood, even though he never uses it and has even been quoted as saying he can't stand the title of Sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttfreck ( talk • contribs) 00:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Why is reference [32] listed as one of Ramakrishnan's most cited Science papers? He is not a coauthor and it was published in Neoropsychologia: Semenza, C; Butterworth, B; Panzeri, M; Ferreri, T (1990). "Word formation: New evidence from aphasia". Neuropsychologia. 28 (5): 499–502.
Domandologo ( talk) 14:35, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
His memoir, Gene Machine, is mentioned as one of several citations for one point, but otherwise ignored. Is there a reason for this? Obviously, a Wikipedia bio is not a CV and we would not attempt to list all of his publications, but a book aimed at a general audience is a far cry from a highly technical scientific paper. To me it seems notable to tell the reader that he wrote a book recounting his life and career, with particular emphasis on the work for which he won the Nobel, and that it's also an audiobook (professional narrator, not Ramakrishnan). JamesMLane t c 07:49, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I have the same question. Ronaldo16 ( talk) 22:52, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
I believe that the following paragraph is more suitable for the section on Views rather than the section on his Career and Research, since he is essentially stating his views on the subject of Brexit and Science.
In an interview in July 2018, he said that Britain's decision to leave the European Union ( Brexit) was hurting Britain's reputation as a good place to work in science, commenting "It's very hard for the science community to see any advantages in Brexit. They are pretty blunt about that." He saw advantages to both the UK and the EU for Britain to continue to be engaged in Galileo and Euratom, which, unlike the European Medicines Agency, are not EU agencies. [1]
I decided to ask here before making the edit as I'm new to WP:BLP.
2001:8F8:1333:8A1F:482A:D283:3EDF:F730 ( talk) 08:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
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Having both the Education and Alma Mater sections in the infobox seems redundant. I suggest removing the Education section and simply having an Alma Mater section with his degree institutions (Baroda [BS] and Ohio [PhD]). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.46.28.44 ( talk) 20:05, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
Please remove Annamalai University from infobox. Seems like Prof M S Govindarajan is getting him confused with some other student of same name. See: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Venki-Ramakrishnan-miffed-at-emails-from-India/articleshow/5120125.cms 192.250.175.26 ( talk) 16:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)Rakesh
The Nobel site says Ramakrishnan is a UK citizen. Does he have dual American/British citizenship ? 161.24.19.112 ( talk) 12:32, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
I suggest that we cut all reference to his citizenship. It seems unclear for the moment (maybe it will be cleared up later) and, more importantly, it's irrelevant to his achievements. Per WP:BLP, we should be propagating personal information about living people that we're not sure about, especially when it's irrelevant to that person's notability. He was born in Tamil Nadu, India, that much everyone is clear about, let's just leave it at that for the moment. Physchim62 (talk) 14:16, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
He is an American Citizen of Indian Origin. See what a big loss for India!! If India has truly allowed a Dual Citizenship, I am sure he would have taken it. And, we could have proudly said that he is an Indian Citizen. Now, every where his identity will be printed as American!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.32.207 ( talk) 15:12, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
please understand, that ethnicity is not the same as nation or race. -- Misssss ( talk) 09:39, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
As there appears to be an ongoing edit war over the ethnicity tag in the infobox I have removed it for now. -- Pontificalibus ( talk) 21:52, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I did cite the CIA resource, " https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/in.html" from where I got it. Pranabnaik ( talk) 21:54, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
122.162.18.204 ( talk) 22:14, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
It's not :-) -- Pontificalibus ( talk) 22:25, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
"This file is a candidate for speedy deletion. It may be deleted after Wednesday, 14 October 2009." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.162.18.204 ( talk) 22:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
An article's lead is just the summary of what is in the article and should be kept to the point, I have made the changes because
-- Sodabottle ( talk) 07:06, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
As an active wikipedian in scientific editing and a follower of ribosome structures, I'd like to comment that I believe the current name of this article (without "Sir") is indeed the appropriate one. It seems that Ramakrishnan himself (as riboman) directly edited the article to remove the title he does not like to use; however, if he had asked me to do that I certainly would have. The article very clearly documents his knighthood, which fulfills the encyclopedic necessity for correctness and completeness. As far as the article name for living persons, in the other cases I've been involved with or seen discussions on, such questions are decided by what is the name in common usage (which of course usually follows the subject's own wishes), such as whether or not a woman's maiden name should be included. Within the scientific community, no one refers to Venki as "Sir" without a laugh or an apology! Dcrjsr ( talk) 16:17, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
So Lalita Ramakrishnan, Venki's sister was just named to the National Academy ( http://www.cam.ac.uk/for-staff/awards/lalita-ramakrishnan-elected-to-the-us-national-academy-of-sciences). Perhaps there should be some mention of her? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.152.173 ( talk) 10:47, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
I've removed the {{
request edit}}
template from the Personal life section, since it seems to only refer to the ridiculous
battle (Jan 2016) over his anti-homeopathy comments in the Hindustan Times
[1] (same goes for the short lived Controversy section). I've opted to omit description of his stance against homeopathy, since his opposition to pseudoscience is shared by pretty much all scientists.
T.Shafee(Evo﹠Evo)
talk
12:22, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
References
Why are edits re Ramakrishnan's knighthood constantly removed when the correct prefix of 'Sir' is added?
As a holder of a knighthood he is entitled to that prefix, regardless of whether he uses it professionally. In fact, the Royal Society website refers to him as Sir Venki Ramakrishnan ( https://royalsociety.org/about-us/committees/council/).
The writer and author Jonathan Miller's page has him correctly listed as Sir Jonathan Miller, as he holds a knighthood, even though he never uses it and has even been quoted as saying he can't stand the title of Sir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttfreck ( talk • contribs) 00:02, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
Why is reference [32] listed as one of Ramakrishnan's most cited Science papers? He is not a coauthor and it was published in Neoropsychologia: Semenza, C; Butterworth, B; Panzeri, M; Ferreri, T (1990). "Word formation: New evidence from aphasia". Neuropsychologia. 28 (5): 499–502.
Domandologo ( talk) 14:35, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
His memoir, Gene Machine, is mentioned as one of several citations for one point, but otherwise ignored. Is there a reason for this? Obviously, a Wikipedia bio is not a CV and we would not attempt to list all of his publications, but a book aimed at a general audience is a far cry from a highly technical scientific paper. To me it seems notable to tell the reader that he wrote a book recounting his life and career, with particular emphasis on the work for which he won the Nobel, and that it's also an audiobook (professional narrator, not Ramakrishnan). JamesMLane t c 07:49, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I have the same question. Ronaldo16 ( talk) 22:52, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
I believe that the following paragraph is more suitable for the section on Views rather than the section on his Career and Research, since he is essentially stating his views on the subject of Brexit and Science.
In an interview in July 2018, he said that Britain's decision to leave the European Union ( Brexit) was hurting Britain's reputation as a good place to work in science, commenting "It's very hard for the science community to see any advantages in Brexit. They are pretty blunt about that." He saw advantages to both the UK and the EU for Britain to continue to be engaged in Galileo and Euratom, which, unlike the European Medicines Agency, are not EU agencies. [1]
I decided to ask here before making the edit as I'm new to WP:BLP.
2001:8F8:1333:8A1F:482A:D283:3EDF:F730 ( talk) 08:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
References