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BetacommandBot 21:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
VP's actual name is Jodie Rivera, which she has not disclosed in her videos, but which she has used in press and recording. Especially since she is now slated to appear in a television series, under her actual name, propose move to Jodie Rivera, making "VenetianPrincess" a redirect to there. 71.127.7.184 ( talk) 14:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I see that some users don't want her personal name used in the article. While the relevant policy says "When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed (such as in certain court cases), it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context", I have a hard time justifying the removal of her name when it is readily published in newspapers and other sources. Plus, if she is using it in press releases to drum up publicity, it is harder to argue that it should thus be removed from her article. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 01:39, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed it because I was contacted by her as she asked me to remove it. Jodie Rivera is not her actual name, however she is mostly known by the alias "VenetianPrincess" so I deemed that the most appropriate title for the article. -- Journalist23 ( talk) 10:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
-- Her legal name is Jodie-Amy, not Jodie. I was doing nothing but contributing accurate information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.100.227 ( talk) 20:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Verified- her real name is Jodie with a middle name of Amy- if it matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.70.231 ( talk) 01:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Article says "A segment on The Maury Povich Show is set to air on February 27, 2008". So if it was to air, it has aired by now, yes? bd2412 T 10:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
I just read on her myspace blog that youtube asked her to stop making parodies of real songs, should this be mentioned here? AlicexCullen ( talk) 13:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Too many of the sources cited in this article are from the character's website or from youtube. This entire article will have to be revised. In fact the whole article is appalling. Liamfoley ( talk) 23:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there any source to support the claim that she is of Italian ancestry? Otherwise the category should be removed. JdeJ ( talk) 19:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
It seems abundantly clear she is making little attempt to hide the fact she also goes by "Jodie Rivera". Her bio under VP here is the same as her bio as JR here. And she even links to a scan of a newspaper article connecting the two identities. There is no reason not to include her real name in the article. -- ZimZalaBim talk 16:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I have found a few images on her website, and was wondering if I could upload one? I can see that nobody has added any, so I thought it would be best to add one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chad Drives A Hummer ( talk • contribs) 10:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Could we maybe add an audio recording to the article? I notice that some of her videos on YouTube (e.g. the Womanizer parody - which she wrote, so has full control of) give permission to reuse with attribution. Obviously this is not the same as an explicit declaration of CC-BY-3.0 or similar, but I would think she would likely grant such a licence if asked. Anyone think it's worth it? - EstoyAquí( t • c • e) 00:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
First, the article has uncited, peacock WP:PEACOCK and other language that's unsuited to an encyclopedia: "her close family and friends call her Amy", "VenetianPrincess's resemblance to actress Angelina Jolie is a recurring topic in her video comments", "VP's version spoke for the masses".
Second, the references almost all either do not confirm article statements, are broken, or are considered unreliable by Wikipedia. Several of the references do not even remotely support what the article says. (7, 8, 9) [2]. One reference is Venetian Princess' own YouTube page, the article information is closely followed by "BUSINESS/PRESS INQUIRES CONTACT: Management@VPrincess.com". I.e., not a reliable reference. Reference [3] is "page not found". This is another dead link: [1]. IMDB is not considered a reliable reference for personal accomplishments.
In sum, the article references that work are mostly written by VenetianPrincess or people who represent her. The article is mostly a list of promotional accomplishments without valid references. The references that there are -- and one that was deleted a couple weeks ago -- misrepresent her accomplishments. It is, therefore, an extended advertisement. Piano non troppo ( talk) 13:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree. this article comes off like something her publicist wrote, and in poor prose also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.242.70.99 ( talk) 06:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
References
In passing, it's peculiar to note that for someone who is purported to be a top Internet draw, that the traffic to this Wikipedia article is more similar to singing acts and novels from 40 years ago, than to current rock acts, movies or TV shows. Check [4]. It would be appreciated if someone impartial could evaluate the weaknesses and strengths of this article, since it may be inflating the popularity of the subject. Piano non troppo ( talk) 22:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the article seems to be thrown together by VenetianPrincess fans and is rather biased. However, her numbers on YouTube and frequent press appearances do prove her to be a top internet draw. New media personalities tend to receive lesser hits on WikiPedia than tradition media personalities. This should be no surprise, because their popularity was born on the internet so their viewership already has a readily available source of information on the persons. It seems from the user above's edits that he/she either has a personal grudge against "VenetianPrincess," or is not accustomed to the ways of new media, and it's recent success matching traditional media's. In this article, many facts are backed up by reliable sources. For instance, she was one of the first in the group invited into the YouTube Revenue Share program. It states that in the two Boston articles, and they are dated back at the initial stages of the program, just as the wiki article states. However, I do agree that this article needs to be completely re-written, as many facts seem jumbled together, and some references need updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.75.251 ( talk) 06:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Why does she call herself VenetianPrincess? Is she from Venice, California? Axeman ( talk) 00:59, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone seen her recent video? Transformers : Revenge of the Twitter Icons? I just noticed her resemblance to Megan Fox. Should we include that by her resemblance to Angelina Jolie and Miley Cyrus?
vp rocks!!!! xx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.116.246 ( talk) 11:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Discuss. Is VenetianPrincess notable? I've seen more relevant articles than this get deleted by the moderators before, so is VenetianPrincess really that notable? 95.150.182.184 ( talk) 00:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
There are no references that she used Mac Pro and Final Cut —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.222.176.186 ( talk) 18:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The reining seat of top most subscribed woman, no longer applys to Venitian Princess it does infact go to Michelle Phan. http://vidstatsx.com/collage/top-100 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.65.12 ( talk) 08:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Not famous. Please delete this as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.30.83.90 ( talk) 03:50, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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BetacommandBot 21:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
VP's actual name is Jodie Rivera, which she has not disclosed in her videos, but which she has used in press and recording. Especially since she is now slated to appear in a television series, under her actual name, propose move to Jodie Rivera, making "VenetianPrincess" a redirect to there. 71.127.7.184 ( talk) 14:49, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
I see that some users don't want her personal name used in the article. While the relevant policy says "When the name of a private individual has not been widely disseminated or has been intentionally concealed (such as in certain court cases), it is often preferable to omit it, especially when doing so does not result in a significant loss of context", I have a hard time justifying the removal of her name when it is readily published in newspapers and other sources. Plus, if she is using it in press releases to drum up publicity, it is harder to argue that it should thus be removed from her article. -- Ricky81682 ( talk) 01:39, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
I removed it because I was contacted by her as she asked me to remove it. Jodie Rivera is not her actual name, however she is mostly known by the alias "VenetianPrincess" so I deemed that the most appropriate title for the article. -- Journalist23 ( talk) 10:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
-- Her legal name is Jodie-Amy, not Jodie. I was doing nothing but contributing accurate information. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.100.227 ( talk) 20:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC) Verified- her real name is Jodie with a middle name of Amy- if it matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.70.231 ( talk) 01:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Article says "A segment on The Maury Povich Show is set to air on February 27, 2008". So if it was to air, it has aired by now, yes? bd2412 T 10:52, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
I just read on her myspace blog that youtube asked her to stop making parodies of real songs, should this be mentioned here? AlicexCullen ( talk) 13:18, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Too many of the sources cited in this article are from the character's website or from youtube. This entire article will have to be revised. In fact the whole article is appalling. Liamfoley ( talk) 23:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Is there any source to support the claim that she is of Italian ancestry? Otherwise the category should be removed. JdeJ ( talk) 19:33, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
It seems abundantly clear she is making little attempt to hide the fact she also goes by "Jodie Rivera". Her bio under VP here is the same as her bio as JR here. And she even links to a scan of a newspaper article connecting the two identities. There is no reason not to include her real name in the article. -- ZimZalaBim talk 16:19, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
I have found a few images on her website, and was wondering if I could upload one? I can see that nobody has added any, so I thought it would be best to add one. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chad Drives A Hummer ( talk • contribs) 10:08, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Could we maybe add an audio recording to the article? I notice that some of her videos on YouTube (e.g. the Womanizer parody - which she wrote, so has full control of) give permission to reuse with attribution. Obviously this is not the same as an explicit declaration of CC-BY-3.0 or similar, but I would think she would likely grant such a licence if asked. Anyone think it's worth it? - EstoyAquí( t • c • e) 00:59, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
First, the article has uncited, peacock WP:PEACOCK and other language that's unsuited to an encyclopedia: "her close family and friends call her Amy", "VenetianPrincess's resemblance to actress Angelina Jolie is a recurring topic in her video comments", "VP's version spoke for the masses".
Second, the references almost all either do not confirm article statements, are broken, or are considered unreliable by Wikipedia. Several of the references do not even remotely support what the article says. (7, 8, 9) [2]. One reference is Venetian Princess' own YouTube page, the article information is closely followed by "BUSINESS/PRESS INQUIRES CONTACT: Management@VPrincess.com". I.e., not a reliable reference. Reference [3] is "page not found". This is another dead link: [1]. IMDB is not considered a reliable reference for personal accomplishments.
In sum, the article references that work are mostly written by VenetianPrincess or people who represent her. The article is mostly a list of promotional accomplishments without valid references. The references that there are -- and one that was deleted a couple weeks ago -- misrepresent her accomplishments. It is, therefore, an extended advertisement. Piano non troppo ( talk) 13:25, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree. this article comes off like something her publicist wrote, and in poor prose also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.242.70.99 ( talk) 06:31, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
References
In passing, it's peculiar to note that for someone who is purported to be a top Internet draw, that the traffic to this Wikipedia article is more similar to singing acts and novels from 40 years ago, than to current rock acts, movies or TV shows. Check [4]. It would be appreciated if someone impartial could evaluate the weaknesses and strengths of this article, since it may be inflating the popularity of the subject. Piano non troppo ( talk) 22:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree that the article seems to be thrown together by VenetianPrincess fans and is rather biased. However, her numbers on YouTube and frequent press appearances do prove her to be a top internet draw. New media personalities tend to receive lesser hits on WikiPedia than tradition media personalities. This should be no surprise, because their popularity was born on the internet so their viewership already has a readily available source of information on the persons. It seems from the user above's edits that he/she either has a personal grudge against "VenetianPrincess," or is not accustomed to the ways of new media, and it's recent success matching traditional media's. In this article, many facts are backed up by reliable sources. For instance, she was one of the first in the group invited into the YouTube Revenue Share program. It states that in the two Boston articles, and they are dated back at the initial stages of the program, just as the wiki article states. However, I do agree that this article needs to be completely re-written, as many facts seem jumbled together, and some references need updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.75.251 ( talk) 06:59, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Why does she call herself VenetianPrincess? Is she from Venice, California? Axeman ( talk) 00:59, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Has anyone seen her recent video? Transformers : Revenge of the Twitter Icons? I just noticed her resemblance to Megan Fox. Should we include that by her resemblance to Angelina Jolie and Miley Cyrus?
vp rocks!!!! xx —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.116.246 ( talk) 11:10, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
Discuss. Is VenetianPrincess notable? I've seen more relevant articles than this get deleted by the moderators before, so is VenetianPrincess really that notable? 95.150.182.184 ( talk) 00:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
There are no references that she used Mac Pro and Final Cut —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.222.176.186 ( talk) 18:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
The reining seat of top most subscribed woman, no longer applys to Venitian Princess it does infact go to Michelle Phan. http://vidstatsx.com/collage/top-100 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.65.12 ( talk) 08:31, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
Not famous. Please delete this as soon as possible. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.30.83.90 ( talk) 03:50, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
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