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It might be a good idea to merge this page with the other Veer-Zaara page that's floating around ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veer-Zaara_%282004_film%29 ) Is there a reason why there would be a film page and a non-film page? GAdam 22:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's important trivia that Zinta's boyfriend is the great-grandson of Jinnah, as this is a film about the conflict between India and Pakistan. It would be relevant to show that one of the actors has an important link to the foreign country they are covering.
Rani's role is not credited as highly as Preity's. It's on the DVD cover (Shahrukh Khan, Preity Zinta, & Rani Mukerji). So, we will not change that order. It is quite possible that Rani's acting was more acclaimed. If so cite that, there is no objection to that. But to list the actor in front of the lead because you think she's better is ludicrous. Please stop doing that. gren グレン 07:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
See the movie and when the cast is credited in the beginning of the movie, it follows: Shah Rukh Khan and then Rani Mukerji and Preity Zinta after her. It's merely because Rani is a senior to her. Even on the poster, you can observe, it's Shah Rukh Khan on the left, Rani Mukerji in the center and then Preity Zinta on the far right. So don't teach me! You should learn your stuff right before.
I posted something similar on the Fanna Talk Page, but that article is in bad shape since someone decided to just cut and paste the synopsis from the movie's website! But here is my question (which relates to all Hindi movies):
I don't know if the format of this article has followed a pre-set template for movies (it appears very similar to other articles about Hindi films). However, as a user, I would find it very useful to have the names of the songs included in the article (after all, most Hindi movies live or die on the strength of their soundtracks and people consider the songs quite important). But I didn't want to add a "Soundtrack" section if it would violate a pre-authorized, agreed-upon template. If that is not the case, I'd be happy to create the section with the appropriate links. -- Smalek 17:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Rani was only given the supporting role since the lead was given to Aishwarya Rai at that time who was far successful than Rani at that point of time. Rani had already prepared the role of Saamiya, so when Ash left, Rani didn't want to do the lead as she was prepared. Then, Preity came as the lead. Still, movie credits point out Rani's name before Preity due to seniority and popularity. Go see the official website credits or better see the movie for yourself. shez15 23:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
It's not important of Aishwarya Rai dropped out of the movie - and it's not a matter of popularity or seniority, it's about who are the major characters: the movie is named after them, so that's how they get credited. And IMDb is standard when it comes to movies, as it is the largest movie databse on the planet. -- Plumcouch 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I reversed the actresses' names again. Shez, we'll take this to an RFC if we must, or even to an arbitration case. You have to let go of your Rani obsession. Zora 09:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
IMDB or not. There are certain things we can't do. Preity is the heroine and Rani the supporting. IMDB is not suitable anymore. & different users opposed to have Rani before Preity, so IMDB is not important in this case. -- Shshshsh 16:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
And we can't use fansites since not all of them use the original credits of the film. See Mujhse Dosti Karoge or The rising. -- Shshshsh 07:27, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I believe if we can stick to IMDB, it's the best option but when in doubt, we can find the casting as in the movie on the net most probably. Just give me some popular movies you have trouble with and we can find the actual movie on the net. For Veer-Zaara, the problem should be solved as here's the opening sequence of the movie where the cast is credited. [3] There should be no problem now with Veer-Zaara. We can paste this reference on the talk page, so whenever one changes the cast, the proof lies on the talk page. We should now look on other movies where IMDB seems to be not a proper reference. - shez_15
Here's the official reference for the casting. Please do not change the cast list. Follow this: [4].
Official List:
No. We can't use movie credits, unless you find them for every film. If you found only for pair of films, it would be unfair for the rest films here. Zora already said, we cast the heroes. I do think we need a source for this, for now keep IMDB. -- Shshshsh 21:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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I just noticed that all citations on the analysis section do not mention pages. -- Nicholas Michael Halim ( talk) 01:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I propose that section Awards and nominations be split into a separate page called List of accolades received by Veer-Zaara. The content are large enough to make their own page. — Nicholas Michael Halim ( talk) 01:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
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It might be a good idea to merge this page with the other Veer-Zaara page that's floating around ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veer-Zaara_%282004_film%29 ) Is there a reason why there would be a film page and a non-film page? GAdam 22:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's important trivia that Zinta's boyfriend is the great-grandson of Jinnah, as this is a film about the conflict between India and Pakistan. It would be relevant to show that one of the actors has an important link to the foreign country they are covering.
Rani's role is not credited as highly as Preity's. It's on the DVD cover (Shahrukh Khan, Preity Zinta, & Rani Mukerji). So, we will not change that order. It is quite possible that Rani's acting was more acclaimed. If so cite that, there is no objection to that. But to list the actor in front of the lead because you think she's better is ludicrous. Please stop doing that. gren グレン 07:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
See the movie and when the cast is credited in the beginning of the movie, it follows: Shah Rukh Khan and then Rani Mukerji and Preity Zinta after her. It's merely because Rani is a senior to her. Even on the poster, you can observe, it's Shah Rukh Khan on the left, Rani Mukerji in the center and then Preity Zinta on the far right. So don't teach me! You should learn your stuff right before.
I posted something similar on the Fanna Talk Page, but that article is in bad shape since someone decided to just cut and paste the synopsis from the movie's website! But here is my question (which relates to all Hindi movies):
I don't know if the format of this article has followed a pre-set template for movies (it appears very similar to other articles about Hindi films). However, as a user, I would find it very useful to have the names of the songs included in the article (after all, most Hindi movies live or die on the strength of their soundtracks and people consider the songs quite important). But I didn't want to add a "Soundtrack" section if it would violate a pre-authorized, agreed-upon template. If that is not the case, I'd be happy to create the section with the appropriate links. -- Smalek 17:31, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
Rani was only given the supporting role since the lead was given to Aishwarya Rai at that time who was far successful than Rani at that point of time. Rani had already prepared the role of Saamiya, so when Ash left, Rani didn't want to do the lead as she was prepared. Then, Preity came as the lead. Still, movie credits point out Rani's name before Preity due to seniority and popularity. Go see the official website credits or better see the movie for yourself. shez15 23:17, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
It's not important of Aishwarya Rai dropped out of the movie - and it's not a matter of popularity or seniority, it's about who are the major characters: the movie is named after them, so that's how they get credited. And IMDb is standard when it comes to movies, as it is the largest movie databse on the planet. -- Plumcouch 21:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
I reversed the actresses' names again. Shez, we'll take this to an RFC if we must, or even to an arbitration case. You have to let go of your Rani obsession. Zora 09:04, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
IMDB or not. There are certain things we can't do. Preity is the heroine and Rani the supporting. IMDB is not suitable anymore. & different users opposed to have Rani before Preity, so IMDB is not important in this case. -- Shshshsh 16:47, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
And we can't use fansites since not all of them use the original credits of the film. See Mujhse Dosti Karoge or The rising. -- Shshshsh 07:27, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
I believe if we can stick to IMDB, it's the best option but when in doubt, we can find the casting as in the movie on the net most probably. Just give me some popular movies you have trouble with and we can find the actual movie on the net. For Veer-Zaara, the problem should be solved as here's the opening sequence of the movie where the cast is credited. [3] There should be no problem now with Veer-Zaara. We can paste this reference on the talk page, so whenever one changes the cast, the proof lies on the talk page. We should now look on other movies where IMDB seems to be not a proper reference. - shez_15
Here's the official reference for the casting. Please do not change the cast list. Follow this: [4].
Official List:
No. We can't use movie credits, unless you find them for every film. If you found only for pair of films, it would be unfair for the rest films here. Zora already said, we cast the heroes. I do think we need a source for this, for now keep IMDB. -- Shshshsh 21:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
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I just noticed that all citations on the analysis section do not mention pages. -- Nicholas Michael Halim ( talk) 01:22, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I propose that section Awards and nominations be split into a separate page called List of accolades received by Veer-Zaara. The content are large enough to make their own page. — Nicholas Michael Halim ( talk) 01:15, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
md 23:19, 27 February 2022 (UTC)