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I don't get it. Inaccurate? If my edits (July 17 especially) were any more closely sourced to the SCOTUS decision (which is certainly a Reliable Source), they'd be a copyvio (if the decision wasn't PD).-- Elvey ( talk) 23:06, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
This is your edit:
On June 26, 2013, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled 5-4 that proponents of Proposition 8 did not have standing to appeal to the Supreme Court or (previously) to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, disagreeing with the minority and the California Supreme Court's view that the proponents did have standing to defend the law their proposition had added to the state constitution. The Supreme Court dismissed the appeal and directed the Ninth Circuit to dismiss its decision, although neither the court nor the parties disputed the right of the proponents to do so in Walker's court.
I've bolded your changes. The first change by you is inaccurate. The majority did not disagree witih the California Supreme Court. If I recall correctly, you've been told this over and over, but you insist on putting this stuff in this and other articles. It's also poorly worded. Frankly, I'm tired of these edits. You appear to have little grasp of legal principles, and you have no sources to support what you're saying. The second part is not inaccurate but, in my view, unnecessary. If you insist on leaving it in, I'm not going to fight over it, but at least remove the first part.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 23:17, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Elvey, you wrote that the 5-person majority of the US Supreme Court were "ignoring" the minority position of their fellow 4 jurists as well as the position of the district appeals court. This cannot be represented to our readers in Wikipedia's voice, or even at all, because the cited sources say nothing about how the five judges decided the case in purposeful or accidental ignorance. To me, it appears as if you wish to present the majority decision in the worst possible light, to emphasize the minority viewpoint and the previous viewpoint of the appeals court. Such an emphasis is not a neutral representation of the actual decision. Frankly, this pushy emphasis of yours has little to do with Walker's biography and more to do with one specific case which developed twists and turns after Walker was finished with it. But I don't recommend taking the non-neutral slant of yours over to the California Proposition 8 article as Wikipedia does not tolerate POV editing. Binksternet ( talk) 01:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
How 'bout cutting the last sentence down to just this:
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I don't get it. Inaccurate? If my edits (July 17 especially) were any more closely sourced to the SCOTUS decision (which is certainly a Reliable Source), they'd be a copyvio (if the decision wasn't PD).-- Elvey ( talk) 23:06, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
This is your edit:
On June 26, 2013, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled 5-4 that proponents of Proposition 8 did not have standing to appeal to the Supreme Court or (previously) to the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, disagreeing with the minority and the California Supreme Court's view that the proponents did have standing to defend the law their proposition had added to the state constitution. The Supreme Court dismissed the appeal and directed the Ninth Circuit to dismiss its decision, although neither the court nor the parties disputed the right of the proponents to do so in Walker's court.
I've bolded your changes. The first change by you is inaccurate. The majority did not disagree witih the California Supreme Court. If I recall correctly, you've been told this over and over, but you insist on putting this stuff in this and other articles. It's also poorly worded. Frankly, I'm tired of these edits. You appear to have little grasp of legal principles, and you have no sources to support what you're saying. The second part is not inaccurate but, in my view, unnecessary. If you insist on leaving it in, I'm not going to fight over it, but at least remove the first part.-- Bbb23 ( talk) 23:17, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Elvey, you wrote that the 5-person majority of the US Supreme Court were "ignoring" the minority position of their fellow 4 jurists as well as the position of the district appeals court. This cannot be represented to our readers in Wikipedia's voice, or even at all, because the cited sources say nothing about how the five judges decided the case in purposeful or accidental ignorance. To me, it appears as if you wish to present the majority decision in the worst possible light, to emphasize the minority viewpoint and the previous viewpoint of the appeals court. Such an emphasis is not a neutral representation of the actual decision. Frankly, this pushy emphasis of yours has little to do with Walker's biography and more to do with one specific case which developed twists and turns after Walker was finished with it. But I don't recommend taking the non-neutral slant of yours over to the California Proposition 8 article as Wikipedia does not tolerate POV editing. Binksternet ( talk) 01:27, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
How 'bout cutting the last sentence down to just this: