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I see that NighOnEarth moved the article a year ago from the most commonly known name Vassily Ivanchuk to the current name. Such move was a poor idea even if only because it was not proposed first.
There is a convinsing evidence, that Vassily Ivanchuk is the most commonly used name in English. As per WP:NC(UE): "If you are talking about a person, country, town, movie or book, use the most commonly used English version of the name for the article"
I did some research to determine the most commonly used English name and here are the results.
I made a search of the usage restricted to the Major English language papers in the last 24 months using the Lexis Nexis. These are the results for several variants:
Google results restricted to the English sites:
The article needs moved to the latter title. -- Irpen 02:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I think 'announced his retirement' is a little strong. Go read the interview, it isn't so clear that he's retiring and he explicitly says he'll work out existing commitments. JordanHenderson ( talk) 12:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
• Changed name to match his official FIDE records. (I agree with discussion below; change back if you must) • Deleted statement in opening paragraph about not winning world championship (a “non-fact”), especially since it is addressed later as well. • Added info about #1 rank on live ratings list. • Added info about return to top-10 list. • Added Gibraltar 2011 and Cap d'Agde 2010 to the tournament victory list. • Formatted tournament victory list for consistency. • Other minor syntax edits. Bbentrup ( talk) 21:42, 4 February 2011 (UTC) • I rewrote several sentences for stylistic reasons, no substantive changes. More work needed in this area. Bbentrup ( talk) 14:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Some ambitious soul should incorporate this lengthy, wonderful interview ( http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/a-big-interview-with-vassily-ivanchuk/) into the various sections of the page, perhaps writing new ones as well. Bbentrup ( talk) 20:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
This article seems unduly negative. The article concentrates on his eccentric behavior more than on his very numerous victories. This is one of the great players of our time and the article doesn't do him justice. Does the "doping controversy really warrant that much space? To me, the article is borderline POV. BashBrannigan ( talk) 06:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Is nothing known of his childhood and home life? Under the heading "Early Years," we learn nothing. Twenty is not such an early year. -- Abenr ( talk) 02:24, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. We go by what the sources say, and FIDE has now been updated. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Vassily Ivanchuk → Vasyl Ivanchuk – I am chess GM Vasyl Ivanchuk want You to call my name as VASYL because it is my official NAME in PASSPORT Ivanchukvasyl ( talk) 12:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
I know it seemed like a big deal at a time but it seems a bit WP:UNDUE now. At least downgrade the emphasis a little. MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 12:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
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I see that NighOnEarth moved the article a year ago from the most commonly known name Vassily Ivanchuk to the current name. Such move was a poor idea even if only because it was not proposed first.
There is a convinsing evidence, that Vassily Ivanchuk is the most commonly used name in English. As per WP:NC(UE): "If you are talking about a person, country, town, movie or book, use the most commonly used English version of the name for the article"
I did some research to determine the most commonly used English name and here are the results.
I made a search of the usage restricted to the Major English language papers in the last 24 months using the Lexis Nexis. These are the results for several variants:
Google results restricted to the English sites:
The article needs moved to the latter title. -- Irpen 02:07, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
I think 'announced his retirement' is a little strong. Go read the interview, it isn't so clear that he's retiring and he explicitly says he'll work out existing commitments. JordanHenderson ( talk) 12:56, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
• Changed name to match his official FIDE records. (I agree with discussion below; change back if you must) • Deleted statement in opening paragraph about not winning world championship (a “non-fact”), especially since it is addressed later as well. • Added info about #1 rank on live ratings list. • Added info about return to top-10 list. • Added Gibraltar 2011 and Cap d'Agde 2010 to the tournament victory list. • Formatted tournament victory list for consistency. • Other minor syntax edits. Bbentrup ( talk) 21:42, 4 February 2011 (UTC) • I rewrote several sentences for stylistic reasons, no substantive changes. More work needed in this area. Bbentrup ( talk) 14:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
Some ambitious soul should incorporate this lengthy, wonderful interview ( http://www.chessvibes.com/reports/a-big-interview-with-vassily-ivanchuk/) into the various sections of the page, perhaps writing new ones as well. Bbentrup ( talk) 20:51, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
This article seems unduly negative. The article concentrates on his eccentric behavior more than on his very numerous victories. This is one of the great players of our time and the article doesn't do him justice. Does the "doping controversy really warrant that much space? To me, the article is borderline POV. BashBrannigan ( talk) 06:05, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
Is nothing known of his childhood and home life? Under the heading "Early Years," we learn nothing. Twenty is not such an early year. -- Abenr ( talk) 02:24, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Moved. We go by what the sources say, and FIDE has now been updated. King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 01:08, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
Vassily Ivanchuk → Vasyl Ivanchuk – I am chess GM Vasyl Ivanchuk want You to call my name as VASYL because it is my official NAME in PASSPORT Ivanchukvasyl ( talk) 12:57, 18 April 2020 (UTC)
I know it seemed like a big deal at a time but it seems a bit WP:UNDUE now. At least downgrade the emphasis a little. MaxBrowne2 ( talk) 12:39, 15 March 2024 (UTC)