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I raised the issue of his precise date of death back in July 2008 (now archived), but no discussion ever ensued.
Various dates appear in sources: 12 January, 15 January, 21 January being the main contenders. Back in 2008, we were showing the date as 15 January 1519, but it's since been changed to 12 January. But the text currently says the trial at which he was condemned took place on the "fifteenth of January", so if that's correct, he couldn't have died 3 days earlier.
Since it's so unclear when he actually died, I am going to change the date to simply "January 1519" with a footnote explaining the uncertainty, until we can find an authoritative source. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 21:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The article is peppered with the word "discovery" in quotes, I'm assuming this is done because he wasn't the first human to know about the Pacific Ocean of course, but from a European perspective he's attributed with this discovery.
Either way, the use of the word discovery this way is inconsistent in the article. When it comes to the Pacific Ocean it's in quotes, but when it comes to other islands and regions it is not.
I'm wondering if there are some better guidelines to represent this in this type of article (maybe a look at how it's handles in the Christopher Columbus one?). ElCapitanAmerica ( talk) 03:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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balboa was known as one of the greatest explorers of his time. He lived from 1512-15774. His wife was Maria and he had no children... 2601:182:4300:993B:D898:AD2E:76DA:A096 ( talk) 23:53, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
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In the first paragraph, I think that it has the dates wrong. 2601:241:8800:B10A:4964:8A08:884B:E654 ( talk) 17:16, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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the http://www.win.tue.nl/~engels/discovery/balboa.html reference is a dead link, replace with https://web.archive.org/web/20110806113241/http://www.win.tue.nl/~engels/discovery/balboa.html Arminkaric ( talk) 16:12, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
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I would like to add an inline citation:
Behind "He is best known for having crossed the Isthmus of Panama to the Pacific Ocean in 1513,"
please add "<ref>{{cite journal |author=Thomas Duve |date=2017 |title=El Tratado de Tordesillas ¿Una 'revolución espacial'? Cosmografía, prácticas jurídicas y la historia del derecho internacional público |journal=Revista de historia del derecho |issue=54 |pages=77–107 (93) |url=https://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/articulo?codigo=6296386 |access-date=2021-01-28 |language=es }}</ref>".
Thank you. Margo92 ( talk) 13:52, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Sorry for being fussy, but I thought I'd rather ask now than later: The source only contains the information in the first part of the sentence. That's why I wanted to place the <ref></ref> tags directly behind "1513,". Is it customary in Wikipedia to place ref tags always behind the end of a sentence? (Even if the source cited only contains the information in the first part of the sentence?) Thanks again for your help. Margo92 ( talk) 11:07, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Muchas gracias to both of you. -- Margo92 ( talk) 17:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Shouldn't the word slaver be somewhere in the lead paragraph, or is it assumed since he was a conquistador? Awhit003 ( talk) 00:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
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I raised the issue of his precise date of death back in July 2008 (now archived), but no discussion ever ensued.
Various dates appear in sources: 12 January, 15 January, 21 January being the main contenders. Back in 2008, we were showing the date as 15 January 1519, but it's since been changed to 12 January. But the text currently says the trial at which he was condemned took place on the "fifteenth of January", so if that's correct, he couldn't have died 3 days earlier.
Since it's so unclear when he actually died, I am going to change the date to simply "January 1519" with a footnote explaining the uncertainty, until we can find an authoritative source. -- Jack of Oz [your turn] 21:21, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
The article is peppered with the word "discovery" in quotes, I'm assuming this is done because he wasn't the first human to know about the Pacific Ocean of course, but from a European perspective he's attributed with this discovery.
Either way, the use of the word discovery this way is inconsistent in the article. When it comes to the Pacific Ocean it's in quotes, but when it comes to other islands and regions it is not.
I'm wondering if there are some better guidelines to represent this in this type of article (maybe a look at how it's handles in the Christopher Columbus one?). ElCapitanAmerica ( talk) 03:35, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
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balboa was known as one of the greatest explorers of his time. He lived from 1512-15774. His wife was Maria and he had no children... 2601:182:4300:993B:D898:AD2E:76DA:A096 ( talk) 23:53, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
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In the first paragraph, I think that it has the dates wrong. 2601:241:8800:B10A:4964:8A08:884B:E654 ( talk) 17:16, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
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the http://www.win.tue.nl/~engels/discovery/balboa.html reference is a dead link, replace with https://web.archive.org/web/20110806113241/http://www.win.tue.nl/~engels/discovery/balboa.html Arminkaric ( talk) 16:12, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
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I would like to add an inline citation:
Behind "He is best known for having crossed the Isthmus of Panama to the Pacific Ocean in 1513,"
please add "<ref>{{cite journal |author=Thomas Duve |date=2017 |title=El Tratado de Tordesillas ¿Una 'revolución espacial'? Cosmografía, prácticas jurídicas y la historia del derecho internacional público |journal=Revista de historia del derecho |issue=54 |pages=77–107 (93) |url=https://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/articulo?codigo=6296386 |access-date=2021-01-28 |language=es }}</ref>".
Thank you. Margo92 ( talk) 13:52, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
Sorry for being fussy, but I thought I'd rather ask now than later: The source only contains the information in the first part of the sentence. That's why I wanted to place the <ref></ref> tags directly behind "1513,". Is it customary in Wikipedia to place ref tags always behind the end of a sentence? (Even if the source cited only contains the information in the first part of the sentence?) Thanks again for your help. Margo92 ( talk) 11:07, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Muchas gracias to both of you. -- Margo92 ( talk) 17:26, 31 January 2021 (UTC)
Shouldn't the word slaver be somewhere in the lead paragraph, or is it assumed since he was a conquistador? Awhit003 ( talk) 00:47, 13 November 2023 (UTC)