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Added a gallery of my own work. If you are a photographer from Vasai and share your work here, ofcourse related to Vasai, do remember to add a hyperlink at the end of the caption image - Abhishekgharat ( talk) 12:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Vasai Road is the name of the station on Mumbai suburban railway,rather than Vasai itself.I suggest to rename this article to Vasai,merge with another article named Vasai-Virar and create another article for Vasai road station. SidMilan ( talk) 20:23, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Whatever is written here, i have heard most of it from the elders... but there is no way to verify! -alokz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.207.218.185 ( talk) 21:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
The current article is seriously looking like a travel guide and must be this way on WikiTravel. I want to start cleaning this up soon and make it meet WP quality standards. Please comment on what must be their and what must be not..
Following are some points I feel must change..
-- Wild MaCkeR ( talk) 14:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
There is no special mention of Bhandari & Kolis despite their presence in Vasai & areas nearby. There are areas like Naigaon Koliwada, Vasai koliwada, etc where Kolis reside normally. There are Bhandar Alis in various villages or some villages like Holi are residential area for Bhandaris. I think they are present in so much density that one cannot avoid talking about it when it comes to Vasai. – Adivasai ( talk) 04:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC) Vadaval is another community living in Vasai. Mainly involved in farming, this community is called Somavanshiya Kshatriyas and are surnamed mainly 'Save'(pronounced as SAWE) but they are also have Patil, Mhatre, Rauts, Vartak,Chaudhary, Churi etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.87.27.109 ( talk) 16:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
There is a part of the text that tells us about origins of Samvedi surnames Naik, Vartak, Mhatre, etc. The author says that this community might be a part of Agri community. However, the theory is open to very serious questions...
All these surnames viz.,Raut, Patil, Mhatre, Joshi, Vartak, etc also come under other castes too. & they are not given as per explanations provided by the author. e.g. "The one who used to make- up the actors by decorating them with “Patt” i.e. dress, crown etc. were called “Pattolika”. These makeup men community were later called “Pattils” i.e. “Patil”." The word Patil in Maharashtra has not come from Samvedi caste. Instead Samvedis have taken the surname from other castes. So there should not be any explanation for its origin in the Samvedi caste.
One more thing, Samved is one of the four vedas, study of which was available to only Brahmins. Hence, Samvedi is a pure subcaste of Brahmins. Whereas Agri is more similar to Koli, which stays in seashore area & do the business of Salt & nowadays Reti(Sand). Both these castes were nowhere interconnected by their cultures in the history, such as language or traditions. Hence connecting them just by their surnames is not a good way to base the theory upon.
There is no evidence of stay of Samvedis before some centuries. This might be because they have come from another area. & the theory of their being brought by Peshwas or some other dynasty is more logical. Adivasai ( talk) 04:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Though this page gives the reader very useful information, such as history, etc., the true Vasai as it is today is somewhat missing in the page. If someone utters the word Vasai, what will be the first images which would pop up in our minds? 1. Killa(Vasai Fort). 2. Christianity, Vadaval, Samvedi, Bhandari, Koli, Agari, etc. communties. 3. Vasai Kala Krida Mahotsav. 4. Suruchi baag & other beaches in the area. 5. Chimaji Appa ground & the memorial. 6. Various vaadis & bunglows or houses therein. 7. Vasai Road Station. 8. New areas developed nearby Station, such as Anand Nagar, etc.
You may add other things as per your experience.
However, this things are either not taken into account, or not given full attention to present it as it is in our Vasaikars' minds.
Adivasai ( talk) 05:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I've removed two rather large blocks of text that appear to be imported papers and are likely subject to copyright. In general, this article remains in a state that requires a lot of work. Serpent's Choice ( talk) 04:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
This article is a complete mess. I realise that a merge was proposed recently but regardless of that it is my intention soon to scrub the thing of all items for which cite requests have been outstanding over a period of 6 months or more. Some of them go back to 2007!
Usually, I would try to source stuff but in this case the situation is so poor that it would be simpler to start over. - Sitush ( talk) 08:33, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Someone is upto mischief. They had written that the Vasai region was called "Mhatre Ilaka", which is slang for "Mhatre Territory" which is obviously ridiculous. They even provided a reference!!!- www.vasaitaluka.in. The site does not exist anymore. They had injected the Mhatre word in other places in the article as well. This is not funny. The Vasai region is under-appreciated in terms of its rich history. The region and the events that tool place here have had a massive and far-reaching impact on the history of entire India. Lets be vigilant about impish attempts at vandalizing this page.
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Added a gallery of my own work. If you are a photographer from Vasai and share your work here, ofcourse related to Vasai, do remember to add a hyperlink at the end of the caption image - Abhishekgharat ( talk) 12:21, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
Vasai Road is the name of the station on Mumbai suburban railway,rather than Vasai itself.I suggest to rename this article to Vasai,merge with another article named Vasai-Virar and create another article for Vasai road station. SidMilan ( talk) 20:23, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Whatever is written here, i have heard most of it from the elders... but there is no way to verify! -alokz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.207.218.185 ( talk) 21:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
The current article is seriously looking like a travel guide and must be this way on WikiTravel. I want to start cleaning this up soon and make it meet WP quality standards. Please comment on what must be their and what must be not..
Following are some points I feel must change..
-- Wild MaCkeR ( talk) 14:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
There is no special mention of Bhandari & Kolis despite their presence in Vasai & areas nearby. There are areas like Naigaon Koliwada, Vasai koliwada, etc where Kolis reside normally. There are Bhandar Alis in various villages or some villages like Holi are residential area for Bhandaris. I think they are present in so much density that one cannot avoid talking about it when it comes to Vasai. – Adivasai ( talk) 04:49, 12 May 2009 (UTC) Vadaval is another community living in Vasai. Mainly involved in farming, this community is called Somavanshiya Kshatriyas and are surnamed mainly 'Save'(pronounced as SAWE) but they are also have Patil, Mhatre, Rauts, Vartak,Chaudhary, Churi etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.87.27.109 ( talk) 16:44, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
There is a part of the text that tells us about origins of Samvedi surnames Naik, Vartak, Mhatre, etc. The author says that this community might be a part of Agri community. However, the theory is open to very serious questions...
All these surnames viz.,Raut, Patil, Mhatre, Joshi, Vartak, etc also come under other castes too. & they are not given as per explanations provided by the author. e.g. "The one who used to make- up the actors by decorating them with “Patt” i.e. dress, crown etc. were called “Pattolika”. These makeup men community were later called “Pattils” i.e. “Patil”." The word Patil in Maharashtra has not come from Samvedi caste. Instead Samvedis have taken the surname from other castes. So there should not be any explanation for its origin in the Samvedi caste.
One more thing, Samved is one of the four vedas, study of which was available to only Brahmins. Hence, Samvedi is a pure subcaste of Brahmins. Whereas Agri is more similar to Koli, which stays in seashore area & do the business of Salt & nowadays Reti(Sand). Both these castes were nowhere interconnected by their cultures in the history, such as language or traditions. Hence connecting them just by their surnames is not a good way to base the theory upon.
There is no evidence of stay of Samvedis before some centuries. This might be because they have come from another area. & the theory of their being brought by Peshwas or some other dynasty is more logical. Adivasai ( talk) 04:50, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Though this page gives the reader very useful information, such as history, etc., the true Vasai as it is today is somewhat missing in the page. If someone utters the word Vasai, what will be the first images which would pop up in our minds? 1. Killa(Vasai Fort). 2. Christianity, Vadaval, Samvedi, Bhandari, Koli, Agari, etc. communties. 3. Vasai Kala Krida Mahotsav. 4. Suruchi baag & other beaches in the area. 5. Chimaji Appa ground & the memorial. 6. Various vaadis & bunglows or houses therein. 7. Vasai Road Station. 8. New areas developed nearby Station, such as Anand Nagar, etc.
You may add other things as per your experience.
However, this things are either not taken into account, or not given full attention to present it as it is in our Vasaikars' minds.
Adivasai ( talk) 05:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
I've removed two rather large blocks of text that appear to be imported papers and are likely subject to copyright. In general, this article remains in a state that requires a lot of work. Serpent's Choice ( talk) 04:43, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
This article is a complete mess. I realise that a merge was proposed recently but regardless of that it is my intention soon to scrub the thing of all items for which cite requests have been outstanding over a period of 6 months or more. Some of them go back to 2007!
Usually, I would try to source stuff but in this case the situation is so poor that it would be simpler to start over. - Sitush ( talk) 08:33, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Someone is upto mischief. They had written that the Vasai region was called "Mhatre Ilaka", which is slang for "Mhatre Territory" which is obviously ridiculous. They even provided a reference!!!- www.vasaitaluka.in. The site does not exist anymore. They had injected the Mhatre word in other places in the article as well. This is not funny. The Vasai region is under-appreciated in terms of its rich history. The region and the events that tool place here have had a massive and far-reaching impact on the history of entire India. Lets be vigilant about impish attempts at vandalizing this page.