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Utpal dynasty were of jats,99% ot the utpal/uppals are jats,no such surname is found amongst chamars 42.105.105.222 ( talk) 07:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Utpalas were not jats, there is no evidence and utpala was not a surname, the rulers of utpalas use "Varman" as their tittle. Yash1110 ( talk) 09:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
[1], from here onwards the narrative that this particular dynasty belongs to a particular caste was pushed by a user. Hence, i reverted it to last best version. The revert has removed some useful content too, which i am restoring.- Admantine123 ( talk) 08:49, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- But why??? historical records said that this dynasty belongs to a particular caste so whats wrong in that? Maheyyash ( talk) 18:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Reply me dum Admantine when Origin and also These 2 books were accepted by the Ministry of culture Government of India. so why are you removing it???
- U are a big Historian or what.
- When the Government of India has accepted that the Utpala empire belonged to Chamars, then what is your problem? Maheyyash ( talk) 14:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
According to Kalhana in his book Rajatarangin(an12th century document recording by the Kashmiri historian Kalhana)'' Jayadevi, a combine of Lalitapida(king of Karkota and father of Cippatajayapida, also called Brhaspati) and her uncles, Fadma, Utpala, Kalyilna, Mamma, and Dharma were from non- Brahmin/Outcaste origin. [1]
● Historian
Abu'l Fazl in his book
Ain-i-Akbari(an 16th-century detailed document recording the administration of the
Mughal Empire under Emperor
Akbar) clearly mention that the rulers of utpala dynasty were from
Chamar caste.
[2]
[3]
- ^ Marc Aurel Stein (1900). Kalhana's Rajatarangini Vol 1.
- ^ Sarkar, Jadunath (1949). "Ain-i-akbari Of Abul Fazl I Allami Vol. 2 Ed. 2nd". Retrieved 9 July 2022.
- ^ "The Ain-i-Akbari Vol II". INDIAN CULTURE. Retrieved 2022-09-08.
Maheyyash ( talk) 14:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
- All the sources, you are using, are not reliable for such article as they are WP:Primary sources or just the translation of a primary source.- Admantine123 ( talk) 17:19, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
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Utpal dynasty were of jats,99% ot the utpal/uppals are jats,no such surname is found amongst chamars 42.105.105.222 ( talk) 07:15, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
- Utpalas were not jats, there is no evidence and utpala was not a surname, the rulers of utpalas use "Varman" as their tittle. Yash1110 ( talk) 09:23, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
[1], from here onwards the narrative that this particular dynasty belongs to a particular caste was pushed by a user. Hence, i reverted it to last best version. The revert has removed some useful content too, which i am restoring.- Admantine123 ( talk) 08:49, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
- But why??? historical records said that this dynasty belongs to a particular caste so whats wrong in that? Maheyyash ( talk) 18:16, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
- Reply me dum Admantine when Origin and also These 2 books were accepted by the Ministry of culture Government of India. so why are you removing it???
- U are a big Historian or what.
- When the Government of India has accepted that the Utpala empire belonged to Chamars, then what is your problem? Maheyyash ( talk) 14:29, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
According to Kalhana in his book Rajatarangin(an12th century document recording by the Kashmiri historian Kalhana)'' Jayadevi, a combine of Lalitapida(king of Karkota and father of Cippatajayapida, also called Brhaspati) and her uncles, Fadma, Utpala, Kalyilna, Mamma, and Dharma were from non- Brahmin/Outcaste origin. [1]
● Historian
Abu'l Fazl in his book
Ain-i-Akbari(an 16th-century detailed document recording the administration of the
Mughal Empire under Emperor
Akbar) clearly mention that the rulers of utpala dynasty were from
Chamar caste.
[2]
[3]
- ^ Marc Aurel Stein (1900). Kalhana's Rajatarangini Vol 1.
- ^ Sarkar, Jadunath (1949). "Ain-i-akbari Of Abul Fazl I Allami Vol. 2 Ed. 2nd". Retrieved 9 July 2022.
- ^ "The Ain-i-Akbari Vol II". INDIAN CULTURE. Retrieved 2022-09-08.
Maheyyash ( talk) 14:20, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
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