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This article covers specific examples related to Trump to an extent that tends to slant the article toward recent events. It does not seem to present a dispassionate global view of the subject. I have tagged the section as such so that it can be discussed and addressed by editing.- Mr X 18:41, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
I object to this edit which blanked an entire section, including ten footnotes. Most of those footnotes mention “unmasking” in the article titles, and all discuss “unmasking” in their article bodies. This is highly relevant material that was deleted, and I’d support article deletion if this key material is removed. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 15:12, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
This section says in part, "Former National Security Advisor Susan Rice made requests to unmask members of the Trump campaign and transition,", citing this source in support. That source says in part, "White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter. ... The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally."
I think that this is an example of what I take to be editorial shorthand where such blanket unmasking combined with searching unmasked names for names of interest; e.g., describing such activity targeting
Michael Flynn in shorthand as, "unmasking General Flynn". I think I have this right, but I'm not 100.00 percent sure of that. If I don't have this right, I would appreciate being set straight.
If I do have that right, I'm wondering what regular editors of this article think about whether this relatively high-context style of communication here, and/or in Wikipedia articles in general, is appropriate. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 18:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Politrukki, people are unmasked because their identity is unknown. No one would request Flynn to be unmasked if they already knew who it was. "Flynn was unmasked" suggests that he was exposed, perhaps while involved in a classified operation, thereby risking national security. But that's not what happened and it's the stuff of conspiracy theories. soibangla ( talk) 18:08, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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This article covers specific examples related to Trump to an extent that tends to slant the article toward recent events. It does not seem to present a dispassionate global view of the subject. I have tagged the section as such so that it can be discussed and addressed by editing.- Mr X 18:41, 31 October 2017 (UTC)
I object to this edit which blanked an entire section, including ten footnotes. Most of those footnotes mention “unmasking” in the article titles, and all discuss “unmasking” in their article bodies. This is highly relevant material that was deleted, and I’d support article deletion if this key material is removed. Anythingyouwant ( talk) 15:12, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
This section says in part, "Former National Security Advisor Susan Rice made requests to unmask members of the Trump campaign and transition,", citing this source in support. That source says in part, "White House lawyers last month learned that the former national security adviser Susan Rice requested the identities of U.S. persons in raw intelligence reports on dozens of occasions that connect to the Donald Trump transition and campaign, according to U.S. officials familiar with the matter. ... The pattern of Rice's requests was discovered in a National Security Council review of the government's policy on "unmasking" the identities of individuals in the U.S. who are not targets of electronic eavesdropping, but whose communications are collected incidentally."
I think that this is an example of what I take to be editorial shorthand where such blanket unmasking combined with searching unmasked names for names of interest; e.g., describing such activity targeting
Michael Flynn in shorthand as, "unmasking General Flynn". I think I have this right, but I'm not 100.00 percent sure of that. If I don't have this right, I would appreciate being set straight.
If I do have that right, I'm wondering what regular editors of this article think about whether this relatively high-context style of communication here, and/or in Wikipedia articles in general, is appropriate. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 18:23, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
Politrukki, people are unmasked because their identity is unknown. No one would request Flynn to be unmasked if they already knew who it was. "Flynn was unmasked" suggests that he was exposed, perhaps while involved in a classified operation, thereby risking national security. But that's not what happened and it's the stuff of conspiracy theories. soibangla ( talk) 18:08, 1 June 2022 (UTC)