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Content sufficient for a beginning?
Kipd ( talk) 14:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
DISCLOSURE: I work at the United Hospital Fund. I am aware of WP’s COI policies and will be careful to abide by them. See my user page for more.
There are several factual errors in what’s here now (described below), and the article as a whole does not reflect the organization’s history or present status as a health policy research and grantmaking organization. However, I want to be very careful to comply with WP’s COI policies.
I would guess this article doesn’t get much traffic, so I’m not sure how soon to expect a response on this Talk page. Meanwhile, I’ll draft a neutral and more appropriate description of UHF (as a subpage on my user page). I’ll also ask at the helpdesk, etc., for advice on how best to proceed while adhering to WP guidelines on COI, NPOV, sources, etc.
The current text (and the first reference) might be more appropriate for an article on a movement and type of charity organization--the “Hospital Day” movement of the late 19th century--than one on the United Hospital Fund itself, which began its existence as one such charity. The conflation is understandable, because the Fund’s initial name was the “Hospital Saturday and Sunday Association.” (It changed its name to United Hospital Fund in 1916.)
One of the founders of the Fund was indeed George Macculloch Miller (he was its first president, from 1880 to 1910). And on January 7, 1879, J.P. Morgan was present at a conference proposing a General Hospital Day, which eventually led to the creation of the “Hospital Saturday and Sunday Association.” But that’s the only involvement by Morgan I’m aware of. Jesup and Vanderbilt, as far as I know, had no involvement at all with the organization. (If anyone has evidence or sources for these industrialists’ involvement with this organization, please update with citations.)
It may be that Vanderbilt and Jesup were involved in other similar charitable organizations during the same time, possibly even other “Hospital Day” groups -- that seems to be what is referred to by the current statement, “Within several years it had expanded to include all of New York City and was beginning to spread out to the rest of continental USA.” The United Hospital Fund and its predecessor organization never “spread out” past New York, though this type of fundraising may have. (The first reference, the New York Times article from 12/29/1882, gives a good contemporary overview of Hospital Day charities.)
The main source for the above information is Saturday, Sunday and Everyday: The History of the United Hospital Fund of New York, a 1954 book by Joseph Hirsh with Beka Doherty. Again, I work at the United Hospital Fund. So while I am familiar with published information about the organization, I will not make any direct edits to this article.
Thanks. Miles at UHF ( talk) 18:42, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Naraht ( talk) 16:08, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. As I have noted previously, I am an employee of UHF, and I’m requesting a couple changes in order to be aboveboard and respectful of wikipedia’s COI policy. UHF's current president is stepping down, and a new president begins work at UHF, on August 14, 2017. I am requesting two edits to reflect that change; I also note that one link in the "External Links" section is dead and I propose removing it. Thanks for your help.
Background: As of 8/14/2017, James R. Tallon, Jr. will be stepping down as president of UHF; he will be succeeded by Dr. Anthony Shih. Source: https://www.uhfnyc.org/news/881207
1. In the Infobox, replace this: | key_people = James R. Tallon, Jr., President with this: | key_people = Anthony Shih, President
2. In the first paragraph, replace this sentence: It is currently led by James R. Tallon, Jr. with this: It is currently led by Anthony Shih.
3. Earlier in 2017, UHF shuttered medicaidinstitute.org, a website focused on one of its program initiatives. Medicaid Institute is still listed in the “External Links” section (visitors are now redirected to uhfnyc.org, UHF’s main website); I suggest removing that entry entirely from the “External Links” list, as it’s now defunct.
Thanks, and cheers-- Miles at UHF ( talk) 13:52, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
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Hello again. I am an employee of UHF, and I’m requesting changes on the UHF page in order to be aboveboard and respectful of Wikipedia’s COI policy. UHF now has a new president, and there has been a slight change in its mission and the emphasis of its program work. I am requesting several edits to reflect these changes, noted below. Thanks for your help!
Background: As of 9/12/2022, Oxiris Barbot is now the president of United Hospital Fund. She has replaced Anthony Shih, who stepped down in August 2022. Source: United Hospital Fund Names New President
Suggested edits:
1. In the Infobox, replace this: | key_people = Anthony Shih, President with this: | key_people = Oxiris Barbot, President (note that there is already a Wikipedia page for Dr. Barbot, based on previous notable roles; I am including a link to that page here and in suggested edit #2)
2. In the first paragraph, replace this sentence: Since 2017, it is led by Anthony Shih with this: Since September 2022, it has been led by Oxiris Barbot.
3. In the first sentence of the recent research and notable activities section, replace “focus on health care” with “focus on health care and health equity”. I’m not sure if this requires a source—but if so, UHF’s updated mission statement would be a good one, here: UHF Mission & Core Values Miles at UHF ( talk) 17:09, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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Content sufficient for a beginning?
Kipd ( talk) 14:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
DISCLOSURE: I work at the United Hospital Fund. I am aware of WP’s COI policies and will be careful to abide by them. See my user page for more.
There are several factual errors in what’s here now (described below), and the article as a whole does not reflect the organization’s history or present status as a health policy research and grantmaking organization. However, I want to be very careful to comply with WP’s COI policies.
I would guess this article doesn’t get much traffic, so I’m not sure how soon to expect a response on this Talk page. Meanwhile, I’ll draft a neutral and more appropriate description of UHF (as a subpage on my user page). I’ll also ask at the helpdesk, etc., for advice on how best to proceed while adhering to WP guidelines on COI, NPOV, sources, etc.
The current text (and the first reference) might be more appropriate for an article on a movement and type of charity organization--the “Hospital Day” movement of the late 19th century--than one on the United Hospital Fund itself, which began its existence as one such charity. The conflation is understandable, because the Fund’s initial name was the “Hospital Saturday and Sunday Association.” (It changed its name to United Hospital Fund in 1916.)
One of the founders of the Fund was indeed George Macculloch Miller (he was its first president, from 1880 to 1910). And on January 7, 1879, J.P. Morgan was present at a conference proposing a General Hospital Day, which eventually led to the creation of the “Hospital Saturday and Sunday Association.” But that’s the only involvement by Morgan I’m aware of. Jesup and Vanderbilt, as far as I know, had no involvement at all with the organization. (If anyone has evidence or sources for these industrialists’ involvement with this organization, please update with citations.)
It may be that Vanderbilt and Jesup were involved in other similar charitable organizations during the same time, possibly even other “Hospital Day” groups -- that seems to be what is referred to by the current statement, “Within several years it had expanded to include all of New York City and was beginning to spread out to the rest of continental USA.” The United Hospital Fund and its predecessor organization never “spread out” past New York, though this type of fundraising may have. (The first reference, the New York Times article from 12/29/1882, gives a good contemporary overview of Hospital Day charities.)
The main source for the above information is Saturday, Sunday and Everyday: The History of the United Hospital Fund of New York, a 1954 book by Joseph Hirsh with Beka Doherty. Again, I work at the United Hospital Fund. So while I am familiar with published information about the organization, I will not make any direct edits to this article.
Thanks. Miles at UHF ( talk) 18:42, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
Naraht ( talk) 16:08, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
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Hello. As I have noted previously, I am an employee of UHF, and I’m requesting a couple changes in order to be aboveboard and respectful of wikipedia’s COI policy. UHF's current president is stepping down, and a new president begins work at UHF, on August 14, 2017. I am requesting two edits to reflect that change; I also note that one link in the "External Links" section is dead and I propose removing it. Thanks for your help.
Background: As of 8/14/2017, James R. Tallon, Jr. will be stepping down as president of UHF; he will be succeeded by Dr. Anthony Shih. Source: https://www.uhfnyc.org/news/881207
1. In the Infobox, replace this: | key_people = James R. Tallon, Jr., President with this: | key_people = Anthony Shih, President
2. In the first paragraph, replace this sentence: It is currently led by James R. Tallon, Jr. with this: It is currently led by Anthony Shih.
3. Earlier in 2017, UHF shuttered medicaidinstitute.org, a website focused on one of its program initiatives. Medicaid Institute is still listed in the “External Links” section (visitors are now redirected to uhfnyc.org, UHF’s main website); I suggest removing that entry entirely from the “External Links” list, as it’s now defunct.
Thanks, and cheers-- Miles at UHF ( talk) 13:52, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
![]() | This edit request by an editor with a conflict of interest has now been answered. |
Hello again. I am an employee of UHF, and I’m requesting changes on the UHF page in order to be aboveboard and respectful of Wikipedia’s COI policy. UHF now has a new president, and there has been a slight change in its mission and the emphasis of its program work. I am requesting several edits to reflect these changes, noted below. Thanks for your help!
Background: As of 9/12/2022, Oxiris Barbot is now the president of United Hospital Fund. She has replaced Anthony Shih, who stepped down in August 2022. Source: United Hospital Fund Names New President
Suggested edits:
1. In the Infobox, replace this: | key_people = Anthony Shih, President with this: | key_people = Oxiris Barbot, President (note that there is already a Wikipedia page for Dr. Barbot, based on previous notable roles; I am including a link to that page here and in suggested edit #2)
2. In the first paragraph, replace this sentence: Since 2017, it is led by Anthony Shih with this: Since September 2022, it has been led by Oxiris Barbot.
3. In the first sentence of the recent research and notable activities section, replace “focus on health care” with “focus on health care and health equity”. I’m not sure if this requires a source—but if so, UHF’s updated mission statement would be a good one, here: UHF Mission & Core Values Miles at UHF ( talk) 17:09, 13 September 2022 (UTC)