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This article looks to be beyond the stub stage. Thoughts? David Henderson 02:34, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
The Express bus, from the Royal York hotel, used to (still?) costs about $20. I wonder if the 22 in its title could be a clue as to what a trip on this new route will cost? Lol. -- Geo Swan 17:29, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Has anyone done any research on this 17% stat (the alleged percentage of people who use Pearson who travel downtown)? It might be completely accurate, but I have always been a little suspicious of the way it is used -- no one ever seems to look behind the stat, or consider its relevance. For example:
Doesn't it travel every 7 minutes, not 15? -- 64.231.54.184 16:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The article currently says the system will use four old Budd cars. I am sure I read it was going to use just three.
Ottawa Transit's experiment with light rail is initially using new German diesel cars on an existing rail line. My understanding is that if the experiment is seen to be a success then it will be replaced with a wider net of electrified rail vehicles on a separate right of way. That might make the German vehicles available. They are much newer than the 50 year old Budds, and would make the service more attractive.
Cheers! Geo Swan ( talk) 03:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
It would make more sense to have an intermediate stop at the new Weston Road LRT station. I visited the site of the new station, in April, the day the first Tunnel Boring Machine was slated to start. I took a couple of dozen pictures. There is no GO station there now, but the plan is that the LRT station will include 15 bus bays and a GO station.
Mind you the LRT isn't scheduled to be finished until 2020. Geo Swan ( talk) 20:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
The article currently says the loading platform at Union will be near the Skywalk. Jeez louise, that doesn't make sense. Passengers transferring from the TTC or from a GO train or GO bus will have a long walk to the platform -- about a third of a kilometer.
Why isn't platform 1 of the existing GO terminal turned over to the Pearson Express? Geo Swan ( talk) 20:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, now we know it's correct. The UP platforms are west of York St., off the Skywalk, and they are an awfully long walk from the subway platforms if you're in a hurry or have luggage. -- 70.49.171.136 ( talk) 03:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
The map in the infobox was created with lighter shades on the then-proposed parts of the route. Now that the line is up and running, these should be fully coloured, but I don't know enough about the templates to figure this out. Could someone who knows their way around these things please make an update? Radagast ( talk) 18:55, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
The map showing GO and TTC connections is missing the Yonge-University subway line! Also it should say TTC "rapid transit" or "subway" connections, as buses and streetcars are not shown (and in my opinion should not be). -- 70.49.171.136 ( talk) 03:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
"It is the first dedicated airport rail link service in North America (compared to urban rail transit or commuter rail connections used elsewhere)."
Someone has changed the operating speed item in the info box to "90 km/h". This is blatantly false since trains routinely operate at upwards of 125 km/h. I have reverted the value to the previous 145 km/h (which may not be correct either, but is at least documented and theoretically possible).
When I recorded the train speed on-board with GPS, I found it to be cruising at around 128 km/h (80 mph) for much of the line, and my trackside measurements yielded similar results. Of course, primary research is not a valid source on Wikipedia so I can't cite that. I seem to recall that during the opening speech the top speed was cited as 130 km/h, but I can't find a source for that. If anyone could find a more recent source for the maximum operating speed, it would be greatly appreciated. Reaperexpress ( talk) 03:28, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Why is there such a large table of fares in this article? Some editors would argue, and I would tend to agree, that such a detailed fare table should not be included in the article because Wikipedia is not a travel guide. WP:NOTTRAVEL I also wonder whether the inclusion of so much fare detail furthers the opinion of some that the fares are to high. I would suggest that the table be removed and instead only basic fare information be provided in the article - which seems to be the norm for similar North American transit articles. FFM784 ( talk) 18:16, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
How many km of this is underground?
Could that info be put in the article. And hopefully update the map to show the tunnel portals like the High Speed 2 in England. 116.240.138.221 ( talk) 09:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed if I cut down the "Alternatives" section greatly and put in a link to Toronto Pearson International Airport#Ground Transportation instead? I get what it's trying to do, but that belongs on wikitravel or some other tourism or city guide site, not in an encyclopedia, and Pearson's Ground Transportation section should be doing the comparisons if any.
I'd normally be bold but my anon edit to change Uber from "Ride-sharing" to "Ride-hailing" (matching the first sentence of Uber (company) got reverted so I presume this might be controversial. -- user:Qviri 20:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
The article should mention Family Day Weekend 2016, when it became free. Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 13:47, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Here https://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2016/02/ontario-lowering-fares-for-union-pearson-express-riders.html is the Ministry of Transportation announcement. Secondarywaltz ( talk) 20:47, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Reaperexpress: @ Secondarywaltz: I see you were bold in your changes, but we have two news stories reporting on plans for a merger, but nothing official to confirm it has actually occurred or is occuring. I'm kind of concerned you guys moved too fast on this one, and that as written, fails WP:CITE. Could you consider revisions to reflect what the cited sources actually say? -- Natural RX 18:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
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"UP Express uses diesel multiple unit (DMU) trains that meet United States Environmental Protection Agency Tier 4 emission standards."
Is there a reason that this is listed as a fact for a rail service in Canada? What does the EPA have to do with a project in Toronto? -- Criticalthinker ( talk) 17:53, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
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This article looks to be beyond the stub stage. Thoughts? David Henderson 02:34, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
The Express bus, from the Royal York hotel, used to (still?) costs about $20. I wonder if the 22 in its title could be a clue as to what a trip on this new route will cost? Lol. -- Geo Swan 17:29, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
Has anyone done any research on this 17% stat (the alleged percentage of people who use Pearson who travel downtown)? It might be completely accurate, but I have always been a little suspicious of the way it is used -- no one ever seems to look behind the stat, or consider its relevance. For example:
Doesn't it travel every 7 minutes, not 15? -- 64.231.54.184 16:01, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The article currently says the system will use four old Budd cars. I am sure I read it was going to use just three.
Ottawa Transit's experiment with light rail is initially using new German diesel cars on an existing rail line. My understanding is that if the experiment is seen to be a success then it will be replaced with a wider net of electrified rail vehicles on a separate right of way. That might make the German vehicles available. They are much newer than the 50 year old Budds, and would make the service more attractive.
Cheers! Geo Swan ( talk) 03:35, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
It would make more sense to have an intermediate stop at the new Weston Road LRT station. I visited the site of the new station, in April, the day the first Tunnel Boring Machine was slated to start. I took a couple of dozen pictures. There is no GO station there now, but the plan is that the LRT station will include 15 bus bays and a GO station.
Mind you the LRT isn't scheduled to be finished until 2020. Geo Swan ( talk) 20:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
The article currently says the loading platform at Union will be near the Skywalk. Jeez louise, that doesn't make sense. Passengers transferring from the TTC or from a GO train or GO bus will have a long walk to the platform -- about a third of a kilometer.
Why isn't platform 1 of the existing GO terminal turned over to the Pearson Express? Geo Swan ( talk) 20:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
Well, now we know it's correct. The UP platforms are west of York St., off the Skywalk, and they are an awfully long walk from the subway platforms if you're in a hurry or have luggage. -- 70.49.171.136 ( talk) 03:10, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
The map in the infobox was created with lighter shades on the then-proposed parts of the route. Now that the line is up and running, these should be fully coloured, but I don't know enough about the templates to figure this out. Could someone who knows their way around these things please make an update? Radagast ( talk) 18:55, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
The map showing GO and TTC connections is missing the Yonge-University subway line! Also it should say TTC "rapid transit" or "subway" connections, as buses and streetcars are not shown (and in my opinion should not be). -- 70.49.171.136 ( talk) 03:12, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
"It is the first dedicated airport rail link service in North America (compared to urban rail transit or commuter rail connections used elsewhere)."
Someone has changed the operating speed item in the info box to "90 km/h". This is blatantly false since trains routinely operate at upwards of 125 km/h. I have reverted the value to the previous 145 km/h (which may not be correct either, but is at least documented and theoretically possible).
When I recorded the train speed on-board with GPS, I found it to be cruising at around 128 km/h (80 mph) for much of the line, and my trackside measurements yielded similar results. Of course, primary research is not a valid source on Wikipedia so I can't cite that. I seem to recall that during the opening speech the top speed was cited as 130 km/h, but I can't find a source for that. If anyone could find a more recent source for the maximum operating speed, it would be greatly appreciated. Reaperexpress ( talk) 03:28, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
Why is there such a large table of fares in this article? Some editors would argue, and I would tend to agree, that such a detailed fare table should not be included in the article because Wikipedia is not a travel guide. WP:NOTTRAVEL I also wonder whether the inclusion of so much fare detail furthers the opinion of some that the fares are to high. I would suggest that the table be removed and instead only basic fare information be provided in the article - which seems to be the norm for similar North American transit articles. FFM784 ( talk) 18:16, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
How many km of this is underground?
Could that info be put in the article. And hopefully update the map to show the tunnel portals like the High Speed 2 in England. 116.240.138.221 ( talk) 09:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
Would anyone be opposed if I cut down the "Alternatives" section greatly and put in a link to Toronto Pearson International Airport#Ground Transportation instead? I get what it's trying to do, but that belongs on wikitravel or some other tourism or city guide site, not in an encyclopedia, and Pearson's Ground Transportation section should be doing the comparisons if any.
I'd normally be bold but my anon edit to change Uber from "Ride-sharing" to "Ride-hailing" (matching the first sentence of Uber (company) got reverted so I presume this might be controversial. -- user:Qviri 20:40, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
The article should mention Family Day Weekend 2016, when it became free. Johnny Au ( talk/ contributions) 13:47, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Here https://news.ontario.ca/mto/en/2016/02/ontario-lowering-fares-for-union-pearson-express-riders.html is the Ministry of Transportation announcement. Secondarywaltz ( talk) 20:47, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
@ Reaperexpress: @ Secondarywaltz: I see you were bold in your changes, but we have two news stories reporting on plans for a merger, but nothing official to confirm it has actually occurred or is occuring. I'm kind of concerned you guys moved too fast on this one, and that as written, fails WP:CITE. Could you consider revisions to reflect what the cited sources actually say? -- Natural RX 18:42, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
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"UP Express uses diesel multiple unit (DMU) trains that meet United States Environmental Protection Agency Tier 4 emission standards."
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