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I added a brief technical description using a very good report as basis
I did a slightly more detailed illustration of the Unha, see here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unha-2.jpeg Perhaps we should use this one? I think with the current one there are some misinterpretations: The satellite capsule in reality is not made of split-halves, the Unha's first stage has very small fins missing on the current drawing, also, according to experts, the Unha does not have one big nozzle but four (which probably are not visible from the side, just like the Scud's nozzles are not visible from the side either) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabe27 ( talk • contribs) 22:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
"運輸火箭銀河二號" is Chinese, not Korean, and means "Transport Rocket Galaxy #2". The Eunha bit of that is "銀河". Jpatokal ( talk) 06:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Paektusan-1, failed to launch Kwangmyongsong-1 in 1998, appears to be named Unha-1 after launch. According to a TV news recently I watched, an North Korean science museum explained that Kwangmyŏngsŏng-1 was successfully launched by Unha-1. At least, some web news comply with the naming( ex.(in Japanese)). Should the article "Unha" be rename "Unha-2"(or be merged with Paektusan (rocket), as Unha rocket family)? Since "Unha" is generally a rocket name of "orbital" launch systems using Taepogong(= Paektusan), Paektusan (rocket) might be limited as suborbital launch systems. -- Gwano ( talk) 04:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that the interpretation (Silver River) is not required. Korea is a Sinosphere and many words are able to replace with Chinese character (i.e. ideogram). Unha (銀河; galaxy or Milky Way) should be combination between un (銀=silver) and ha (河=wide river). Although the Milky Way is characterized to be Silver River, that is considered to be a kind of idiom and original meaning of each word is almost lost. -- Gwano ( talk) 13:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I propose that Unha-3 be merged into Unha. I think that the content in the Unha-3 article can easily be explained in the context of Unha, and the Unha article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Unha-3 will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. Oneiros ( talk) 22:57, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I propose that Taepodong-2 to be merged into Unha given that the content there is becoming a Unha article. Perhaps, the Paektusan-1 is also named as Unha-1? ( talk) 01:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC+8)
Finally, next vehicle of Unha-2 was named Unha-3. Then, there have been no official Unha-1 yet. But few cite called Taepodong-1 flew in 1998 (i.e. Paektusan-1) as Unha-1 (see above [2]) even if it was a kind of mistake. I think, it seems the numbers indicade total orbital launch attempts in North Korea independent of launch vehicles, as same as "Ariane Vxx" (ex, "Ariane V21" was Ariane 3, "Ariane V22" was Ariane 4 and "Ariane V23" was Ariane 2 - see List of Ariane launches). If so, "1" means Paektusan-1 and someone might mistake the "1"(i.e. the Taepodong-1 in 1998) for Unha-1 in the above cite. Either way, as yet there are no official Unha-1. -- Gwano ( talk) 16:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Just for the record: IRFNA / UDMH have high energy and impulse. Although i don't like dictators:
Technologically 100kg is only IRRATIONAL North Korea bashing. Tagremover ( talk) 17:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I had started a political impact section on this article, but an IP removed it claiming the discussion was not about the rocket. The RFA article clearly mentions the rocket, and so it is related. Radio Free Asia is reliable and is used in hundreds of articles. I think the section should be re-added and expanded. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 08:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
The correct dimensions for Unha-2 and Unha-3 are provided at http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets_1/Rest_World/Unha-3/Description/Frame.htm, as are the performance figures. The figures provided in the 2009 paper by David Wright were mere estimates subject to revision and now that the launches have passed, it's clear that the flight performance figures in the 2009 paper were a bit off by several seconds. 68.4.28.33 ( talk) 18:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian
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I added a brief technical description using a very good report as basis
I did a slightly more detailed illustration of the Unha, see here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Unha-2.jpeg Perhaps we should use this one? I think with the current one there are some misinterpretations: The satellite capsule in reality is not made of split-halves, the Unha's first stage has very small fins missing on the current drawing, also, according to experts, the Unha does not have one big nozzle but four (which probably are not visible from the side, just like the Scud's nozzles are not visible from the side either) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabe27 ( talk • contribs) 22:54, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
"運輸火箭銀河二號" is Chinese, not Korean, and means "Transport Rocket Galaxy #2". The Eunha bit of that is "銀河". Jpatokal ( talk) 06:21, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Paektusan-1, failed to launch Kwangmyongsong-1 in 1998, appears to be named Unha-1 after launch. According to a TV news recently I watched, an North Korean science museum explained that Kwangmyŏngsŏng-1 was successfully launched by Unha-1. At least, some web news comply with the naming( ex.(in Japanese)). Should the article "Unha" be rename "Unha-2"(or be merged with Paektusan (rocket), as Unha rocket family)? Since "Unha" is generally a rocket name of "orbital" launch systems using Taepogong(= Paektusan), Paektusan (rocket) might be limited as suborbital launch systems. -- Gwano ( talk) 04:42, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
I think that the interpretation (Silver River) is not required. Korea is a Sinosphere and many words are able to replace with Chinese character (i.e. ideogram). Unha (銀河; galaxy or Milky Way) should be combination between un (銀=silver) and ha (河=wide river). Although the Milky Way is characterized to be Silver River, that is considered to be a kind of idiom and original meaning of each word is almost lost. -- Gwano ( talk) 13:45, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
I propose that Unha-3 be merged into Unha. I think that the content in the Unha-3 article can easily be explained in the context of Unha, and the Unha article is of a reasonable size in which the merging of Unha-3 will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned. Oneiros ( talk) 22:57, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
I propose that Taepodong-2 to be merged into Unha given that the content there is becoming a Unha article. Perhaps, the Paektusan-1 is also named as Unha-1? ( talk) 01:17, 20 March 2015 (UTC+8)
Finally, next vehicle of Unha-2 was named Unha-3. Then, there have been no official Unha-1 yet. But few cite called Taepodong-1 flew in 1998 (i.e. Paektusan-1) as Unha-1 (see above [2]) even if it was a kind of mistake. I think, it seems the numbers indicade total orbital launch attempts in North Korea independent of launch vehicles, as same as "Ariane Vxx" (ex, "Ariane V21" was Ariane 3, "Ariane V22" was Ariane 4 and "Ariane V23" was Ariane 2 - see List of Ariane launches). If so, "1" means Paektusan-1 and someone might mistake the "1"(i.e. the Taepodong-1 in 1998) for Unha-1 in the above cite. Either way, as yet there are no official Unha-1. -- Gwano ( talk) 16:57, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
Just for the record: IRFNA / UDMH have high energy and impulse. Although i don't like dictators:
Technologically 100kg is only IRRATIONAL North Korea bashing. Tagremover ( talk) 17:46, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
I had started a political impact section on this article, but an IP removed it claiming the discussion was not about the rocket. The RFA article clearly mentions the rocket, and so it is related. Radio Free Asia is reliable and is used in hundreds of articles. I think the section should be re-added and expanded. -- Odie5533 ( talk) 08:35, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
The correct dimensions for Unha-2 and Unha-3 are provided at http://www.b14643.de/Spacerockets_1/Rest_World/Unha-3/Description/Frame.htm, as are the performance figures. The figures provided in the 2009 paper by David Wright were mere estimates subject to revision and now that the launches have passed, it's clear that the flight performance figures in the 2009 paper were a bit off by several seconds. 68.4.28.33 ( talk) 18:16, 25 August 2013 (UTC)Vahe Demirjian
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