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Couldn't we call Wikipedia an "unfinished work"? - Ta bu shi da yu 22:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Can someone put these edits in? (I'm using AOL and it won't allow me to.) F. Scott Fitzgerald's "The Love of the Last Tycoon," as well as some unfinished poetry: Percy Bysshe Shelley's "The Triumph of Life" and Lord Byron's famous "Don Juan." Also, "The Canturybury Tales" are unfinished - Chaucer meant for each pilgrim to tell two stories: one on the way to Canturbury, another on the way home. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.117.10 ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 9 August 2006
What about the unfinished Disney cartoons like The Gremlins the Dali project, the Hans C. Anderson anthology, an animated Don Quixote... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.131.203 ( talk) 02:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson never completed the album called Smile in 1967. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.85.115.45 ( talk) 21:57, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
The Mystery of Edwin Drood is the last novel by Charles Dickens, left unfinished at the time of his death. I'm not sure where and how to mention this in the text of the article. Maybe someone could do it. Tavilis 17:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
This is a historical development that should get at least a brief overview. It has its origins in the appreciation of sketches and sculptors' bozzetti and the careful stewardship of Michelangelo's unfinished sculptures, and its apotheosis in the nineteenth century, as a means of approaching the creative process. -- Wetman 05:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
What a cool idea for an article. I did notice one thing: the references for the Leonardo bits (the Sforza horse and the altarpiece) are to a page which, ahem, bears heavy similarities to the Wikipedia Leonardo da Vinci article, right down to "See also"s stuck in the middle of the text. I think it may be better to use other references (having conveniently acquired one of these recently :))
If no-one objects, I can add those in.
Telsa (talk) 11:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Interesting though the Pygmalion stuff is, Pygmalion isn't an unfinished work, so really this paragraph belongs at derivative work, not here. Perhaps the stuff about Pluto on The Planets would be more apt? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
The reference to using a "matrix" to "predict" the piece is misleading. After reading the related articles, it seems that the matrix is not really the usual kind of mathematical construction, and at any rate it dicates a form for the combination of themes, which are only one part of the composition. It is really just a healthy argument for a certain kind of structure to the reconstructed fugue, not a reconstruction in itself. Left unqualified it makes it look like Göncz wrote an algorithm to finish the Fugue or something like that. - Rainwarrior 16:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the "compromise wording" edit, this is not a "mathematical" approach. It is not that kind of matrix. Furthermore, Goncz did not discover the permutation fugue (read his article, and check the citations where he introduces the term). - Rainwarrior 16:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The article refers to Bach's Art of Fugue as being broken off due to his death, both in text and in a picture caption. This seems to have been not the case. Wiki's own article on the work says: "This account is disputed by modern scholars, as the manuscript is clearly written in Bach's own hand, and thus dates to a time before his deteriorating health and vision would have prevented his ability to write, probably 1748–1749." I have made the minor changes required. Opus131 ( talk) 05:17, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
For this article to be perfect it must be an unfinished work... Don't you dare to finish it! `' mikka (t) 23:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I see that "intellectual property" was put back into the article. This should be avoided because it's vague and potentially confusing. "Intellectual property" is a legal term used when referencing several wholly distinct forms of licensing which are governed under rules substantially different to real property. While it's a perfectly fine term to use in a legal context, it is really vague. It has the added problem that outside of a legal context it often causes people without legal expertise to draw a false parallel between real property and the licensing governed by IP laws. In this article this should not present a challenge: The status of unfinished works is strictly a matter of copyright law, so we are able to simply use the more specific terminology. ... The juxtaposition of 'copyright' and 'a form of intellectual property', paints an entirely different picture: that an 'unfinished work' is yet another form of "intellectual property", which doesn't make any sense at all when you know that "intellectual property" is just a classification of other legal concepts, and it certainly shouldn't be claimed in the article without a solid citation that an unfinished work is anything more than matter of copyright. -- Gmaxwell 09:36, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm concerned about how the subject of the article is dealt with. Granted, the article is good, but in essence ends up being a prose-ified list of notable unfinished works with little subject matter itself, of which there might not be that much to say. It's also confusing that works that are finished are also included, such as: "Johnny Cash, aware of his failing health, made sure that he recorded the vocals for 60 more songs, with the music being completed after his death." Also seems to mix up with works that were completed, but simply unreleased. I'm still going to promote the article, but you really need figure out what it is you're discussing here. -- SeizureDog 06:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
If The Crow deserves mention, then Game of Death definitely deserves mention as well. Despite being incomplete, it was the most accurate representation of Bruce Lee's philosophy and it's probably his most famous movie (witness the now-commonplace homage of the yellow tracksuit.) -- Lode Runner 02:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
"With so many people involved in filmmaking it is very possible for a film to remain incomplete because of an injury or death."
Do you think Beethoven's Tenth Symphony can be called an unfinished work considering that it was never really begun? Herr Beethoven ( talk) 14:44, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
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Couldn't we call Wikipedia an "unfinished work"? - Ta bu shi da yu 22:18, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
Can someone put these edits in? (I'm using AOL and it won't allow me to.) F. Scott Fitzgerald's "The Love of the Last Tycoon," as well as some unfinished poetry: Percy Bysshe Shelley's "The Triumph of Life" and Lord Byron's famous "Don Juan." Also, "The Canturybury Tales" are unfinished - Chaucer meant for each pilgrim to tell two stories: one on the way to Canturbury, another on the way home. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.188.117.10 ( talk • contribs) 00:13, 9 August 2006
What about the unfinished Disney cartoons like The Gremlins the Dali project, the Hans C. Anderson anthology, an animated Don Quixote... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.131.203 ( talk) 02:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The Beach Boys/Brian Wilson never completed the album called Smile in 1967. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.85.115.45 ( talk) 21:57, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
The Mystery of Edwin Drood is the last novel by Charles Dickens, left unfinished at the time of his death. I'm not sure where and how to mention this in the text of the article. Maybe someone could do it. Tavilis 17:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
This is a historical development that should get at least a brief overview. It has its origins in the appreciation of sketches and sculptors' bozzetti and the careful stewardship of Michelangelo's unfinished sculptures, and its apotheosis in the nineteenth century, as a means of approaching the creative process. -- Wetman 05:41, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
What a cool idea for an article. I did notice one thing: the references for the Leonardo bits (the Sforza horse and the altarpiece) are to a page which, ahem, bears heavy similarities to the Wikipedia Leonardo da Vinci article, right down to "See also"s stuck in the middle of the text. I think it may be better to use other references (having conveniently acquired one of these recently :))
If no-one objects, I can add those in.
Telsa (talk) 11:13, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
Interesting though the Pygmalion stuff is, Pygmalion isn't an unfinished work, so really this paragraph belongs at derivative work, not here. Perhaps the stuff about Pluto on The Planets would be more apt? -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 13:02, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
The reference to using a "matrix" to "predict" the piece is misleading. After reading the related articles, it seems that the matrix is not really the usual kind of mathematical construction, and at any rate it dicates a form for the combination of themes, which are only one part of the composition. It is really just a healthy argument for a certain kind of structure to the reconstructed fugue, not a reconstruction in itself. Left unqualified it makes it look like Göncz wrote an algorithm to finish the Fugue or something like that. - Rainwarrior 16:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
Regarding the "compromise wording" edit, this is not a "mathematical" approach. It is not that kind of matrix. Furthermore, Goncz did not discover the permutation fugue (read his article, and check the citations where he introduces the term). - Rainwarrior 16:28, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
The article refers to Bach's Art of Fugue as being broken off due to his death, both in text and in a picture caption. This seems to have been not the case. Wiki's own article on the work says: "This account is disputed by modern scholars, as the manuscript is clearly written in Bach's own hand, and thus dates to a time before his deteriorating health and vision would have prevented his ability to write, probably 1748–1749." I have made the minor changes required. Opus131 ( talk) 05:17, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
For this article to be perfect it must be an unfinished work... Don't you dare to finish it! `' mikka (t) 23:47, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
I see that "intellectual property" was put back into the article. This should be avoided because it's vague and potentially confusing. "Intellectual property" is a legal term used when referencing several wholly distinct forms of licensing which are governed under rules substantially different to real property. While it's a perfectly fine term to use in a legal context, it is really vague. It has the added problem that outside of a legal context it often causes people without legal expertise to draw a false parallel between real property and the licensing governed by IP laws. In this article this should not present a challenge: The status of unfinished works is strictly a matter of copyright law, so we are able to simply use the more specific terminology. ... The juxtaposition of 'copyright' and 'a form of intellectual property', paints an entirely different picture: that an 'unfinished work' is yet another form of "intellectual property", which doesn't make any sense at all when you know that "intellectual property" is just a classification of other legal concepts, and it certainly shouldn't be claimed in the article without a solid citation that an unfinished work is anything more than matter of copyright. -- Gmaxwell 09:36, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm concerned about how the subject of the article is dealt with. Granted, the article is good, but in essence ends up being a prose-ified list of notable unfinished works with little subject matter itself, of which there might not be that much to say. It's also confusing that works that are finished are also included, such as: "Johnny Cash, aware of his failing health, made sure that he recorded the vocals for 60 more songs, with the music being completed after his death." Also seems to mix up with works that were completed, but simply unreleased. I'm still going to promote the article, but you really need figure out what it is you're discussing here. -- SeizureDog 06:49, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
If The Crow deserves mention, then Game of Death definitely deserves mention as well. Despite being incomplete, it was the most accurate representation of Bruce Lee's philosophy and it's probably his most famous movie (witness the now-commonplace homage of the yellow tracksuit.) -- Lode Runner 02:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
"With so many people involved in filmmaking it is very possible for a film to remain incomplete because of an injury or death."
Do you think Beethoven's Tenth Symphony can be called an unfinished work considering that it was never really begun? Herr Beethoven ( talk) 14:44, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
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