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Kautilya3: The heading "Assassination attempt" and the paraphrasing of the line "he narrowly escaped an assassination attempt" I think is misleading. Yes, he was attacked, but can it be called an "Assassination attempt"? Currently four sources have been used - 2 from TOI, 1 from Indian Express and 1 from CPJ. The Indian newspapers do not use the word "assassination". Even TOI uses "allegedly attacked" in the source used
TOI source
But CPJ does - CPJ uses strong language and has clear bias (positive bias but bias nevertheless) so in a way CJP is a good source to use in the aspect that the event happened, but biased in the way in narrates that event and uses language.
(Is attempt to murder and attempt to assassinate the same??? Hubris at play?).
Any suggestions how to go about this?
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Hello IP User:182.58.232.88, as I said in my edit summary revert per WP:BLP violation with unreliable primary source Facebook. and WP:NOTNEWS There is no proof that he actually said those things that you are trying to repeatedly add into the article. in such cases such controversial items cannot be added into the article. Please self revert or share your evidence. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 10:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
@ Kautilya3: I would like to draw a parallel between how the Burhan Wani part is being left out from Umar Khalid's wikipedia page, whereas the Kanhaiya Kumar's "Other controversies" section has similar things which have stayed. What is the difference between those two headings (Statements alleging human rights violations by the Indian Army, Alleged threatening of a female student) in Kanhaiya's page staying and being given such a large room on his page, and the Burhan Wani lines for Khalid not even given one or two lines on the wiki page. Why does WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTNEWS work on this page and not there? (I have just tagged Kautilya for a reply but anyone can reply of course :) ) Thank you. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 07:53, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
@ Winged Blades of Godric: Hi. The changes you made on the Kanhaiya page (14:39, 25 September 2018) partly stem from this discussion. I am talking about that page here because of the parallel I had drawn above and whether or not in a similar manner Burhan Wani statements made by Umar Khalid should be allowed on his wiki page or not. Please could you give you opinion of whether the Burhan Wani matter and statement made by Umar Khalid should get one or two lines on his wikipedia page or not. Adamstraw99 had placed two proper sources for the matter being considered. Thank you. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 15:10, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Why the reference of he being booked under IPC UAPA by Delhi Police is removed? Is stating facts not allowed on Wikipedia anymore? Please see the reference and news below and bring back the info https://theprint.in/india/delhi-police-books-umar-khalid-jamia-students-under-uapa-for-northeast-delhi-violence/406259/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allah117 ( talk • contribs) 14:00, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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Request to change the phrasing of line 4 from "convicted terrorists" to "Kashmiri separatists Afzal Guru and Maqbool Bhat." to provide proper context since "terrorist" as a term is too broad. 101.118.58.146 ( talk) 19:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
What crime has he been convicted of? Stop spreading lies through such pages! Pyummat ( talk) 04:38, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
None of the sources said that he was a human rights activist. Recent charges on Khalid in the involvement of the Delhi Riots also fractures the basic definition of Human rights defender. He was caught in planning the riot which killed more than 4000 people. Removal of the same would be meaningful. Jenos450
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umar khalid is a communist 49.36.137.251 ( talk) 13:54, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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Info box criminal should be removed... what crime has he committed? Cruzex100 ( talk) 17:33, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
He is not a "Human Rights Activist". Period PuluBaddy ( talk) 08:17, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
ChunnuBhai The see also section contained people also accused under UAPA and linked to the anti-CAA protests. Why do you think the edit was "unconstructive"? Vikram Vincent 13:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Keep this link here of other notable arrests under UAPA Unlawful_Activities_(Prevention)_Act#Notable_arrests_made_under_the_Act Vikram Vincent 03:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
There has been no activity here so reinstating the see also section. Vikram Vincent 15:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
unconstrutive editswhich had no meaning. Your follow up on the talk page added equally no useful value either. So I'll wait for a day or two and then revert the See Also section. Vikram Vincent 08:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Delhi anti-Hindu riot accused Umar Khalid, Actor Deep Sidhu, accused in the Republic Day violence case, gets bail, People’s life, capital pride again at risk.
I reverted a whole series of edits by Sk2905, but upon cross-checking, I found a video aired by Aaj Tak of a demonstration at JNU. I don't see either Umar Khalid in the video nor the newscast mention his name. What is going on? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:30, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
To get the right context of Umar Khalid Activism, there is a need to quote the slogans he chanted - Afzal Hum Sharminda he. Tere Kaatil Zinda He. Afzal Guru referred here was a Islamic Terrorist involved in the Pakistan backed terrorist attack on the Parliament in 2001. 171.76.87.80 ( talk) 09:55, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to request the removal of the current cover photo on Umar Khalid's Wikipedia page, as it includes another person along with Umar Khalid. I suggest replacing it with a photo of Umar Khalid alone. Ahte.04 ( talk) 05:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please replace the current profile picture with a new image that only features Umar Khalid, to address privacy concerns involving other individuals visible in the existing photo. This change would align with Wikipedia's guidelines on the biographies of living persons and respect for privacy. Ahte.04 ( talk) 09:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I am requesting a change to the photo of Umar Khalid used on this page. The current photo includes an additional person who does not want to be associated with Umar Khalid and has requested its removal.
I have uploaded a new, free-use image of Umar Khalid on Wikimedia Commons, which can be found here:
.
Thank you.
Ahte.04 ( talk) 21:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I would like to request the following change for neutrality and factual accuracy:
Change “He narrowly escaped an assassination attempt” to “He was attacked, but survived the incident.” - Source: "Umar Khalid survives attack". BBC News. 2018-08-13.
Thank you.
Ahte.04 ( talk) 22:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I would like to request the following change for neutrality and factual accuracy:
Change “Involved in raising anti-national slogans” to “Allegedly participated in controversial protests.” - Source: "Controversial protests involving Umar Khalid". The Hindu. 2019-01-25.
Thank you.
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Kautilya3: The heading "Assassination attempt" and the paraphrasing of the line "he narrowly escaped an assassination attempt" I think is misleading. Yes, he was attacked, but can it be called an "Assassination attempt"? Currently four sources have been used - 2 from TOI, 1 from Indian Express and 1 from CPJ. The Indian newspapers do not use the word "assassination". Even TOI uses "allegedly attacked" in the source used
TOI source
But CPJ does - CPJ uses strong language and has clear bias (positive bias but bias nevertheless) so in a way CJP is a good source to use in the aspect that the event happened, but biased in the way in narrates that event and uses language.
(Is attempt to murder and attempt to assassinate the same??? Hubris at play?).
Any suggestions how to go about this?
DiplomatTesterMan (
talk)
22:30, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
Hello IP User:182.58.232.88, as I said in my edit summary revert per WP:BLP violation with unreliable primary source Facebook. and WP:NOTNEWS There is no proof that he actually said those things that you are trying to repeatedly add into the article. in such cases such controversial items cannot be added into the article. Please self revert or share your evidence. -- DBig Xrayᗙ 10:26, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
@ Kautilya3: I would like to draw a parallel between how the Burhan Wani part is being left out from Umar Khalid's wikipedia page, whereas the Kanhaiya Kumar's "Other controversies" section has similar things which have stayed. What is the difference between those two headings (Statements alleging human rights violations by the Indian Army, Alleged threatening of a female student) in Kanhaiya's page staying and being given such a large room on his page, and the Burhan Wani lines for Khalid not even given one or two lines on the wiki page. Why does WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTNEWS work on this page and not there? (I have just tagged Kautilya for a reply but anyone can reply of course :) ) Thank you. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 07:53, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
@ Winged Blades of Godric: Hi. The changes you made on the Kanhaiya page (14:39, 25 September 2018) partly stem from this discussion. I am talking about that page here because of the parallel I had drawn above and whether or not in a similar manner Burhan Wani statements made by Umar Khalid should be allowed on his wiki page or not. Please could you give you opinion of whether the Burhan Wani matter and statement made by Umar Khalid should get one or two lines on his wikipedia page or not. Adamstraw99 had placed two proper sources for the matter being considered. Thank you. Regards. DiplomatTesterMan ( talk) 15:10, 25 September 2018 (UTC)
Why the reference of he being booked under IPC UAPA by Delhi Police is removed? Is stating facts not allowed on Wikipedia anymore? Please see the reference and news below and bring back the info https://theprint.in/india/delhi-police-books-umar-khalid-jamia-students-under-uapa-for-northeast-delhi-violence/406259/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allah117 ( talk • contribs) 14:00, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
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Request to change the phrasing of line 4 from "convicted terrorists" to "Kashmiri separatists Afzal Guru and Maqbool Bhat." to provide proper context since "terrorist" as a term is too broad. 101.118.58.146 ( talk) 19:29, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
What crime has he been convicted of? Stop spreading lies through such pages! Pyummat ( talk) 04:38, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
None of the sources said that he was a human rights activist. Recent charges on Khalid in the involvement of the Delhi Riots also fractures the basic definition of Human rights defender. He was caught in planning the riot which killed more than 4000 people. Removal of the same would be meaningful. Jenos450
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umar khalid is a communist 49.36.137.251 ( talk) 13:54, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
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Info box criminal should be removed... what crime has he committed? Cruzex100 ( talk) 17:33, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
He is not a "Human Rights Activist". Period PuluBaddy ( talk) 08:17, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
ChunnuBhai The see also section contained people also accused under UAPA and linked to the anti-CAA protests. Why do you think the edit was "unconstructive"? Vikram Vincent 13:25, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
Keep this link here of other notable arrests under UAPA Unlawful_Activities_(Prevention)_Act#Notable_arrests_made_under_the_Act Vikram Vincent 03:42, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
There has been no activity here so reinstating the see also section. Vikram Vincent 15:52, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
unconstrutive editswhich had no meaning. Your follow up on the talk page added equally no useful value either. So I'll wait for a day or two and then revert the See Also section. Vikram Vincent 08:02, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
Delhi anti-Hindu riot accused Umar Khalid, Actor Deep Sidhu, accused in the Republic Day violence case, gets bail, People’s life, capital pride again at risk.
I reverted a whole series of edits by Sk2905, but upon cross-checking, I found a video aired by Aaj Tak of a demonstration at JNU. I don't see either Umar Khalid in the video nor the newscast mention his name. What is going on? -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 15:30, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
To get the right context of Umar Khalid Activism, there is a need to quote the slogans he chanted - Afzal Hum Sharminda he. Tere Kaatil Zinda He. Afzal Guru referred here was a Islamic Terrorist involved in the Pakistan backed terrorist attack on the Parliament in 2001. 171.76.87.80 ( talk) 09:55, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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I would like to request the removal of the current cover photo on Umar Khalid's Wikipedia page, as it includes another person along with Umar Khalid. I suggest replacing it with a photo of Umar Khalid alone. Ahte.04 ( talk) 05:53, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
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Please replace the current profile picture with a new image that only features Umar Khalid, to address privacy concerns involving other individuals visible in the existing photo. This change would align with Wikipedia's guidelines on the biographies of living persons and respect for privacy. Ahte.04 ( talk) 09:27, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I am requesting a change to the photo of Umar Khalid used on this page. The current photo includes an additional person who does not want to be associated with Umar Khalid and has requested its removal.
I have uploaded a new, free-use image of Umar Khalid on Wikimedia Commons, which can be found here:
.
Thank you.
Ahte.04 ( talk) 21:39, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I would like to request the following change for neutrality and factual accuracy:
Change “He narrowly escaped an assassination attempt” to “He was attacked, but survived the incident.” - Source: "Umar Khalid survives attack". BBC News. 2018-08-13.
Thank you.
Ahte.04 ( talk) 22:36, 9 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello,
I would like to request the following change for neutrality and factual accuracy:
Change “Involved in raising anti-national slogans” to “Allegedly participated in controversial protests.” - Source: "Controversial protests involving Umar Khalid". The Hindu. 2019-01-25.
Thank you.