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Since finding out their names is a big part of the game, should this major spoiler be given on this page? I removed them a while back but User:MannPower put them back in. -- 92.229.183.52 ( talk) 08:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Those are major spoilers, and they don't add anything to the article. I'd recommend they be removed. (Anyone else have any thoughts?) Scottman 01 ( talk) 21:06, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
This note is almost ten years old, and no objections have arisen since I brought it up again. I'll clean it up. Scottman 01 ( talk) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
I have included some highly specific info on game box differences which is probably not of interest to many people. However, I searched for quite a long time to try to ascertain the specifics of the differences and couldn't find this information anywhere including the collectible Ultima sites so thought I would list it here. If anyone has any information about the other releases it might be nice to include those also. Thomascjackson ( talk) 09:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I played the game long ago on my Apple 2, and I recall when you met a Shadowlord in town, and it caught up to you, you would enter a battle scene, and could just run away. But its been so long my memory could be in error. Did it put you in a cage instantly, or just after it got close enough to touch you? Dream Focus 13:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I last played Ultima V on my Commodore 64, so yeah, it's been a while for me, too, but I don't remember any cages from Shadowlords. All I remember is that glass swords could be used to drive them away (temporarily defeat them), but usually I just ran away from them if I happened to encounter them. I think the 'cage' bit may either be an error, or perhaps something added to a later port of the game. I doubt its veracity.
87Fan ( talk) 20:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
There are no "cages", but when the player enters combat with a Shadowlord, they are surrounded by a barrier and cannot leave without either dispelling the barrier with Lord British's staff, or by dying. Scottman 01 ( talk) 21:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm posting this in the talk section since it may not be relevant at all to the main posting, but a bit of trivia since IV had a talk section on it as well.
The group "Black Bag" is wholly credited as the group securing the "official" crack of the game, 1 week after the release of the game. The Black Bag cracker was "The Chief Surgeon." The reason for the release was that the game became unplayable and would crash (and yes, a call to "buy legit" was posted on many forums once this issue was uncovered). A legitimate purchase of the game was made and was hand delivered to CS to analyze and compared to about 4 other "cracked" versions to see why all of those crashed. Within about 3 hours, the issue was found, which was a boot-sequence read issue in which the cracking groups failed to uncover in the rush to "be the first". At the time, this boot-sequence copy protection had been labeled as "one of the best" that the industry had implemented. An Easter-Egg is embedded into the boot screen thanking 2 others who helped with this "last crack" of the infamous group.
I could post a whole section on why this release was made, since by this time most of the cracking groups were releasing "cracked" games more for "show" than "quality" as in years previous. I am sure that there would be high debate on the "illegal" activities that occurred by nascent teenagers who were the "first" group of computer software "hackers/crackers" in which Wiki may not take lightly in it's postings. The underground piracy groups of those times was very tight-knit and tight-lipped as well. If there would be a more appropriate section, then I wouldn't mind posting it there.
I am unaware of the IBM-PC version having any "cracking groups" make a release, but it would be interesting to read about it in this talk section if someone is willing to contribute. Landon Statis ( talk) 10:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
The article states that you didn't need to use the magic carpet to get the scepter. How was one supposed to get it? There were false floors surrounding it. Was there some other method for getting over them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.16.150 ( talk) 22:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Regarding how the Avatar drives back the Shadowlords in the intro cinematic, the game differentiates between the amulet and the Ankh. "Hastily you retrieve the amulet and Ankh that lie at your feet" in one paragraph, then "Without warning, the amulet, tightly gripped in your hand, emits a bright blue glow." (Screenshots of these passages can be googled.) Scottman 01 ( talk) 22:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Any thoughts on merging Ultima V: Lazarus with this article? As one of the lead designers and producers of Lazarus (as well as being one of those mentioned to work in the games industry for over ten years because of it), I'd love it if it had its own page, but after a few months of working on that entry, Lazarus doesn't seem to have enough to warrant an article of its own. It can, however, be pared down to fit here fairly easily. Scottman 01 ( talk) 19:18, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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Image:Ultima5.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is other other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images uploaded after 4 May, 2006, and lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. BetacommandBot 16:24, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Since finding out their names is a big part of the game, should this major spoiler be given on this page? I removed them a while back but User:MannPower put them back in. -- 92.229.183.52 ( talk) 08:34, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
Those are major spoilers, and they don't add anything to the article. I'd recommend they be removed. (Anyone else have any thoughts?) Scottman 01 ( talk) 21:06, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
This note is almost ten years old, and no objections have arisen since I brought it up again. I'll clean it up. Scottman 01 ( talk) 16:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
I have included some highly specific info on game box differences which is probably not of interest to many people. However, I searched for quite a long time to try to ascertain the specifics of the differences and couldn't find this information anywhere including the collectible Ultima sites so thought I would list it here. If anyone has any information about the other releases it might be nice to include those also. Thomascjackson ( talk) 09:24, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I played the game long ago on my Apple 2, and I recall when you met a Shadowlord in town, and it caught up to you, you would enter a battle scene, and could just run away. But its been so long my memory could be in error. Did it put you in a cage instantly, or just after it got close enough to touch you? Dream Focus 13:28, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
I last played Ultima V on my Commodore 64, so yeah, it's been a while for me, too, but I don't remember any cages from Shadowlords. All I remember is that glass swords could be used to drive them away (temporarily defeat them), but usually I just ran away from them if I happened to encounter them. I think the 'cage' bit may either be an error, or perhaps something added to a later port of the game. I doubt its veracity.
87Fan ( talk) 20:18, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
There are no "cages", but when the player enters combat with a Shadowlord, they are surrounded by a barrier and cannot leave without either dispelling the barrier with Lord British's staff, or by dying. Scottman 01 ( talk) 21:04, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
I'm posting this in the talk section since it may not be relevant at all to the main posting, but a bit of trivia since IV had a talk section on it as well.
The group "Black Bag" is wholly credited as the group securing the "official" crack of the game, 1 week after the release of the game. The Black Bag cracker was "The Chief Surgeon." The reason for the release was that the game became unplayable and would crash (and yes, a call to "buy legit" was posted on many forums once this issue was uncovered). A legitimate purchase of the game was made and was hand delivered to CS to analyze and compared to about 4 other "cracked" versions to see why all of those crashed. Within about 3 hours, the issue was found, which was a boot-sequence read issue in which the cracking groups failed to uncover in the rush to "be the first". At the time, this boot-sequence copy protection had been labeled as "one of the best" that the industry had implemented. An Easter-Egg is embedded into the boot screen thanking 2 others who helped with this "last crack" of the infamous group.
I could post a whole section on why this release was made, since by this time most of the cracking groups were releasing "cracked" games more for "show" than "quality" as in years previous. I am sure that there would be high debate on the "illegal" activities that occurred by nascent teenagers who were the "first" group of computer software "hackers/crackers" in which Wiki may not take lightly in it's postings. The underground piracy groups of those times was very tight-knit and tight-lipped as well. If there would be a more appropriate section, then I wouldn't mind posting it there.
I am unaware of the IBM-PC version having any "cracking groups" make a release, but it would be interesting to read about it in this talk section if someone is willing to contribute. Landon Statis ( talk) 10:07, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
The article states that you didn't need to use the magic carpet to get the scepter. How was one supposed to get it? There were false floors surrounding it. Was there some other method for getting over them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.22.16.150 ( talk) 22:52, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Regarding how the Avatar drives back the Shadowlords in the intro cinematic, the game differentiates between the amulet and the Ankh. "Hastily you retrieve the amulet and Ankh that lie at your feet" in one paragraph, then "Without warning, the amulet, tightly gripped in your hand, emits a bright blue glow." (Screenshots of these passages can be googled.) Scottman 01 ( talk) 22:37, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
Any thoughts on merging Ultima V: Lazarus with this article? As one of the lead designers and producers of Lazarus (as well as being one of those mentioned to work in the games industry for over ten years because of it), I'd love it if it had its own page, but after a few months of working on that entry, Lazarus doesn't seem to have enough to warrant an article of its own. It can, however, be pared down to fit here fairly easily. Scottman 01 ( talk) 19:18, 21 March 2018 (UTC)