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What is the "Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church (Renovated)"? Can anyone provide any references or links? Qe2 ( talk) 11:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the history of this page, it seems that users have vied with each other to order the churches. I propose establishing some type of neutral, scientific hierarchy, and have edited the page to fit the following structure:
Within each category, I have then listed the churches in alphabetical order. (Even though this means that the Churches in Ukraine are basically ranked from smallest to largest.) Out of respect for the fact that the UOC-MP is legally incorporated as "UOC", I have alphabeticized under that name, but added a note to explain why M comes before K in this list.
I would welcome suggestions on other objective structures. Qe2 ( talk) 08:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Currently the UOC article is a redirect to History of Christianity in Ukraine. I suggest to make this an article about both UOC-KP and UOC-MP and redirect each of them into this article. It seems to me logical since these two churches currently claim both the jurisdiction and the name. The histories of the two are so intertwined that it is impossible to tell the story of one church without invoking the other all the time. As of today, most of these churches' history is the history of their rivarly. Opinions? - Irpen 20:19, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
In my opinion it is better to expand "History of Christianity in Ukraine" and include information about all Christian churches in Ukraine even Protestant/Old Believer sects etc. in the article. The main focus should be on post-'Baptism of Rus' developments especially Orthodox vs. Unia. Every major contemprorary church in Ukraine deserves its own article...However, if you really want to merge the articles and think its gonna be better then go ahead. Fisenko 03:41, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The official name of the "UOC-MP" is just "UOC". UOC-MP is the label applied to it by UOC-KP and sometimes (but not universally) used in the media. Just to be sure I am explaining this right, to say "UOC under the patriarch of Moscow" or "UOC, autonomous under the Patriarch of Moscow" is correct. So say that the name of the church is Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Moscow Patriarchy is not correct. -- Irpen 22:08, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
In light of the large number of incoming links to this page, some of which refer to a broad concept of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church rather than a specific version of it, I propose to move this page to Ukrainian Orthodox Church (disambiguation) and redirect the existing title to History of Christianity in Ukraine. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 17:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Ukrainian Orthodox Church (disambiguation) → Ukrainian Orthodox Church – The (disambiguation) suffix isn't necessary. Ukrainian Orthodox Church is currently a redirect to an only partially related article, for unclear reasons. Chessrat ( talk, contributions) 19:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
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![]() | On 25 December 2023, it was proposed that this article be moved from Ukrainian Orthodox Church (disambiguation) to Ukrainian Orthodox Church. The result of the discussion was moved. |
What is the "Ukrainian Autocephalous Orthodox Church (Renovated)"? Can anyone provide any references or links? Qe2 ( talk) 11:04, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the history of this page, it seems that users have vied with each other to order the churches. I propose establishing some type of neutral, scientific hierarchy, and have edited the page to fit the following structure:
Within each category, I have then listed the churches in alphabetical order. (Even though this means that the Churches in Ukraine are basically ranked from smallest to largest.) Out of respect for the fact that the UOC-MP is legally incorporated as "UOC", I have alphabeticized under that name, but added a note to explain why M comes before K in this list.
I would welcome suggestions on other objective structures. Qe2 ( talk) 08:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
Currently the UOC article is a redirect to History of Christianity in Ukraine. I suggest to make this an article about both UOC-KP and UOC-MP and redirect each of them into this article. It seems to me logical since these two churches currently claim both the jurisdiction and the name. The histories of the two are so intertwined that it is impossible to tell the story of one church without invoking the other all the time. As of today, most of these churches' history is the history of their rivarly. Opinions? - Irpen 20:19, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
In my opinion it is better to expand "History of Christianity in Ukraine" and include information about all Christian churches in Ukraine even Protestant/Old Believer sects etc. in the article. The main focus should be on post-'Baptism of Rus' developments especially Orthodox vs. Unia. Every major contemprorary church in Ukraine deserves its own article...However, if you really want to merge the articles and think its gonna be better then go ahead. Fisenko 03:41, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The official name of the "UOC-MP" is just "UOC". UOC-MP is the label applied to it by UOC-KP and sometimes (but not universally) used in the media. Just to be sure I am explaining this right, to say "UOC under the patriarch of Moscow" or "UOC, autonomous under the Patriarch of Moscow" is correct. So say that the name of the church is Ukrainian Orthodox Church - Moscow Patriarchy is not correct. -- Irpen 22:08, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
In light of the large number of incoming links to this page, some of which refer to a broad concept of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church rather than a specific version of it, I propose to move this page to Ukrainian Orthodox Church (disambiguation) and redirect the existing title to History of Christianity in Ukraine. Cheers! bd2412 T 16:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: moved. ( closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 ( talk) 17:21, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
Ukrainian Orthodox Church (disambiguation) → Ukrainian Orthodox Church – The (disambiguation) suffix isn't necessary. Ukrainian Orthodox Church is currently a redirect to an only partially related article, for unclear reasons. Chessrat ( talk, contributions) 19:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)