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I suggest the article be renamed "Ukrainische Hilfspolizei" (actual formal name) if this is to refer to a singular unit. -- Львівське ( talk) 08:10, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
here he copied verbatim of this], an unreliable source in of itself, and then lied that it was from a Hrycak book.-- Львівське ( talk) 06:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
What are you doing? I have read Hrycak article. Stop this madness, you are removing text with sources.-- Paweł5586 ( talk) 07:01, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
You got more here: "Utworzona przez Niemców ukraińska, litewska i białoruska policja pomocnicza uczestniczyła także w Zagładzie prowadzonej przez Niemców. Między innymi policja na Wołyniu brała udział w masowych egzekucjach Żydów. Ukraińcy służyli w jednostkach wartowniczych w obozach zagłady, m.in. w Sobiborze, Bełżcu i Treblince. " Motyka-- Paweł5586 ( talk) 07:03, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
If the explanations will be provided for [5] - Does Magosci (quite obsolete source ) suggest to call Ostbataillonen as Ukrainian_Auxiliary_Police - as cited in article? Would be nice to explain why Lemberg police units activity was removed as a lot of nice tags also added. Thanks Jo0doe ( talk) 12:56, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Others included Russians, Poles, Volkdeutsche Germans, Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks, Georgians, and Tatars drafted from the local population and as Soviet POWs. I searched the book and couldn't find this information on mentioned pages. I kindly request quote to be inserted or the information removed if it is not within the alledged source.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 14:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Furthermore this doesn't mention Ukrainian Auxiliary Police but various different units that collaborated with Nazis. the various units drew their members from among OUN activists who had escaped arrest by the Germans and from among former Red Army soldiers who had served as German auxiliary police and guards, the latter group also included numerous non-Ukrainians(Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks, Georgians, Tatars) The above text mentions several organizations "police and guards" without mentioning UAP.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 18:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC) I included another source which says similar No scholarly publicatio-and it says Moscow tried to blame UPA for anti-Jewish actions and that the people behind are Russians and Poles. This is obviously false and biased.Needs either to be attributed and described in full or removed.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:01, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I request the article is restored to its proper name. This is not German wikipedia. Thanks. Ukranian patriot ( talk) 00:32, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Ukrainian patriotic police should not have a German Nazi name because then Ukrainians are connected to German crimes! Ukranian patriot ( talk) 15:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Schutzstaffel, Allgemeine-SS, SS-Verfügungstruppe, SS-Totenkopfverbände, Sturmabteilung, Wehrmacht, Reichskommissariat Ostland, Reichskommissariat Ukraine, Reichsführer SS, Führer, etc., etc. You are wrong. End of. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 10:47, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
According to http://www.nbuv.gov.ua/portal/Soc_Gum/Gis/2007_1/Prusin.pdf. Page 32 bottom "...несмотря на то, что в полиции служили представители и других этнических групп (например, фольксдойче, поляки в западных областях, русские в центральных и восточных и т.д.)..." (despite that other ethnic groups served in the police (e.g. Volksdeitch, Poles in the western regions, Russians in the central and eastern regions)...", Page 42 "автор данной статьи исследовал 82 судебно�следственных дела бывших полицейских генерального округа Киев, которые к 1941 году были в возрасте от 18 до 40 лет. Среди подсуди�мых были 73 украинца, 6 русских, 2 немца и 1 поляк, что соответствовало этнической демографии центральной и восточной Украины..." "the author studied 82 court cases of former policemen of Kiev General region... Among them there were 73 Ukrainians, 6 Russians, 2 Germans and 1 Pole that corresponds with ethnic demography of Central and Eastern Ukraine". Thus, Prusin states that among UH despite its name there were Russians, Germans and Poles Alex Bakharev ( talk) 03:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion with recent edits stating that the UH were police in "nazi occupied UkrSSR" vs. the previous version "in the German Generalgovernment". This is a matter of chicken and egg, and they were absolutely police of the german quasi-state, and defining it as "occupied soviet union" is incorrect since the USSR had no legal legitimacy on the territory for it to be "occupied" from them - especially since it was stolen from poland in the first place. I think pushing that it was occupied territory presents a pro-Soviet historical POV, in my opinion.-- Львівське ( говорити) 20:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
In Lwow (today Lviv), the Ukrainian auxiliary police, assisted by various other Ukrainian nationalists autonomously carried out several Nazi Aktions (massacres) of Jews, and acted in tandem with the Nazis as well. At Janowska, a Jewish labor camp in Lwow that ultimately became an extermination and transit facility, and in the Lemberg (Lwow/Lviv) Ghetto, Ukrainian police also assisted in round-ups, at checkpoints, as well as guards -- also known as askaris to the Jewish prisoners. Since there are very few Jewish survivors from this city, there are very few accounts of witnesses as to the number of Jews the Ukrainians were responsible for murdering but the final numbers at Janowska alone totals over 200,000 according to Jakob Weiss in his book, The Lemberg Mosaic.
For some strange reason user"Livivski" totally deleted the above good faith contribution. Maybe the editor can explain this act in terms outside "attempted" revision of history Ukrainian ultra nationalism. Gmw112252 ( talk) 05:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC) And note,
Putin Makes it Illegal to Deny Nazi War Crimes
Russian President signs legislation introducing harsh punishments for justification or denial of Nazi war crimes.
By Elad Benari First Publish: 5/6/2014, 5:16 AM
Russian President Vladimir Putin has made it illegal to justify or deny Nazi war crimes.
According to AFP, Putin on Monday signed new legislation introducing harsh punishments for such acts.
The legislation makes it a criminal offence to deny facts established by the Nuremberg trials regarding the crimes of the Axis powers and to disseminate "false information about Soviet actions" during World War II, according to the news agency.
Such acts are punishable by up to five years in a prison camp or a fine of 500,000 rubles ($14,000), the law says. Those making such claims in mass media are liable for the harshest punishments.
The legislation was voted through by Russia's upper and lower houses of parliament last month.
It comes as Russia makes more and more explicit comparisons between Ukrainian nationalists and Nazi war criminals. 172.12.60.6 ( talk) 06:38, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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I suggest the article be renamed "Ukrainische Hilfspolizei" (actual formal name) if this is to refer to a singular unit. -- Львівське ( talk) 08:10, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
here he copied verbatim of this], an unreliable source in of itself, and then lied that it was from a Hrycak book.-- Львівське ( talk) 06:54, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
What are you doing? I have read Hrycak article. Stop this madness, you are removing text with sources.-- Paweł5586 ( talk) 07:01, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
You got more here: "Utworzona przez Niemców ukraińska, litewska i białoruska policja pomocnicza uczestniczyła także w Zagładzie prowadzonej przez Niemców. Między innymi policja na Wołyniu brała udział w masowych egzekucjach Żydów. Ukraińcy służyli w jednostkach wartowniczych w obozach zagłady, m.in. w Sobiborze, Bełżcu i Treblince. " Motyka-- Paweł5586 ( talk) 07:03, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
If the explanations will be provided for [5] - Does Magosci (quite obsolete source ) suggest to call Ostbataillonen as Ukrainian_Auxiliary_Police - as cited in article? Would be nice to explain why Lemberg police units activity was removed as a lot of nice tags also added. Thanks Jo0doe ( talk) 12:56, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
Others included Russians, Poles, Volkdeutsche Germans, Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks, Georgians, and Tatars drafted from the local population and as Soviet POWs. I searched the book and couldn't find this information on mentioned pages. I kindly request quote to be inserted or the information removed if it is not within the alledged source.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 14:45, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
Furthermore this doesn't mention Ukrainian Auxiliary Police but various different units that collaborated with Nazis. the various units drew their members from among OUN activists who had escaped arrest by the Germans and from among former Red Army soldiers who had served as German auxiliary police and guards, the latter group also included numerous non-Ukrainians(Azerbaijanis, Uzbeks, Georgians, Tatars) The above text mentions several organizations "police and guards" without mentioning UAP.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 18:46, 23 October 2010 (UTC) I included another source which says similar No scholarly publicatio-and it says Moscow tried to blame UPA for anti-Jewish actions and that the people behind are Russians and Poles. This is obviously false and biased.Needs either to be attributed and described in full or removed.-- MyMoloboaccount ( talk) 19:01, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
I request the article is restored to its proper name. This is not German wikipedia. Thanks. Ukranian patriot ( talk) 00:32, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Ukrainian patriotic police should not have a German Nazi name because then Ukrainians are connected to German crimes! Ukranian patriot ( talk) 15:00, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
Schutzstaffel, Allgemeine-SS, SS-Verfügungstruppe, SS-Totenkopfverbände, Sturmabteilung, Wehrmacht, Reichskommissariat Ostland, Reichskommissariat Ukraine, Reichsführer SS, Führer, etc., etc. You are wrong. End of. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen ( talk) 10:47, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
According to http://www.nbuv.gov.ua/portal/Soc_Gum/Gis/2007_1/Prusin.pdf. Page 32 bottom "...несмотря на то, что в полиции служили представители и других этнических групп (например, фольксдойче, поляки в западных областях, русские в центральных и восточных и т.д.)..." (despite that other ethnic groups served in the police (e.g. Volksdeitch, Poles in the western regions, Russians in the central and eastern regions)...", Page 42 "автор данной статьи исследовал 82 судебно�следственных дела бывших полицейских генерального округа Киев, которые к 1941 году были в возрасте от 18 до 40 лет. Среди подсуди�мых были 73 украинца, 6 русских, 2 немца и 1 поляк, что соответствовало этнической демографии центральной и восточной Украины..." "the author studied 82 court cases of former policemen of Kiev General region... Among them there were 73 Ukrainians, 6 Russians, 2 Germans and 1 Pole that corresponds with ethnic demography of Central and Eastern Ukraine". Thus, Prusin states that among UH despite its name there were Russians, Germans and Poles Alex Bakharev ( talk) 03:00, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
There seems to be some confusion with recent edits stating that the UH were police in "nazi occupied UkrSSR" vs. the previous version "in the German Generalgovernment". This is a matter of chicken and egg, and they were absolutely police of the german quasi-state, and defining it as "occupied soviet union" is incorrect since the USSR had no legal legitimacy on the territory for it to be "occupied" from them - especially since it was stolen from poland in the first place. I think pushing that it was occupied territory presents a pro-Soviet historical POV, in my opinion.-- Львівське ( говорити) 20:07, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
In Lwow (today Lviv), the Ukrainian auxiliary police, assisted by various other Ukrainian nationalists autonomously carried out several Nazi Aktions (massacres) of Jews, and acted in tandem with the Nazis as well. At Janowska, a Jewish labor camp in Lwow that ultimately became an extermination and transit facility, and in the Lemberg (Lwow/Lviv) Ghetto, Ukrainian police also assisted in round-ups, at checkpoints, as well as guards -- also known as askaris to the Jewish prisoners. Since there are very few Jewish survivors from this city, there are very few accounts of witnesses as to the number of Jews the Ukrainians were responsible for murdering but the final numbers at Janowska alone totals over 200,000 according to Jakob Weiss in his book, The Lemberg Mosaic.
For some strange reason user"Livivski" totally deleted the above good faith contribution. Maybe the editor can explain this act in terms outside "attempted" revision of history Ukrainian ultra nationalism. Gmw112252 ( talk) 05:39, 6 May 2014 (UTC) And note,
Putin Makes it Illegal to Deny Nazi War Crimes
Russian President signs legislation introducing harsh punishments for justification or denial of Nazi war crimes.
By Elad Benari First Publish: 5/6/2014, 5:16 AM
Russian President Vladimir Putin has made it illegal to justify or deny Nazi war crimes.
According to AFP, Putin on Monday signed new legislation introducing harsh punishments for such acts.
The legislation makes it a criminal offence to deny facts established by the Nuremberg trials regarding the crimes of the Axis powers and to disseminate "false information about Soviet actions" during World War II, according to the news agency.
Such acts are punishable by up to five years in a prison camp or a fine of 500,000 rubles ($14,000), the law says. Those making such claims in mass media are liable for the harshest punishments.
The legislation was voted through by Russia's upper and lower houses of parliament last month.
It comes as Russia makes more and more explicit comparisons between Ukrainian nationalists and Nazi war criminals. 172.12.60.6 ( talk) 06:38, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
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