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My apologies for the blanket reversion, but correcting individual details one-by-one would not have been productive. Some particular points:
-- Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 17:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
I removed the claim that Piccolomini (later Pope Pius II) would have mentioned the connection between Ugric peoples in his Cosmographia (1458). Here's a German translation of what he wrote [from Günter Johannes Stipa (1990)]:
"Im Asiatischen Skythien, nicht weit vom Don, wohnen Völker, ungebildete Menschen, die Idolkult treiben. Diese hätten dieselbe Sprache wie die Ungarn, die in Pannonien wohnen." In Piccolomini 1614: 324 ist hinzugefügt "Sie werden Ungarn genannt.. Ihre Rede unterscheidet sich gar nicht von der, welche die jenseits des Ister [der Donau] Wohnenden gebrauchen. Sie nennen sich Verwandte ... "
It is possible that this refers more to Magna Hungaria instead of Ob-Ugrians, as Scythia is usually associated with a more southern location. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 10:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
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My apologies for the blanket reversion, but correcting individual details one-by-one would not have been productive. Some particular points:
-- Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 17:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
I removed the claim that Piccolomini (later Pope Pius II) would have mentioned the connection between Ugric peoples in his Cosmographia (1458). Here's a German translation of what he wrote [from Günter Johannes Stipa (1990)]:
"Im Asiatischen Skythien, nicht weit vom Don, wohnen Völker, ungebildete Menschen, die Idolkult treiben. Diese hätten dieselbe Sprache wie die Ungarn, die in Pannonien wohnen." In Piccolomini 1614: 324 ist hinzugefügt "Sie werden Ungarn genannt.. Ihre Rede unterscheidet sich gar nicht von der, welche die jenseits des Ister [der Donau] Wohnenden gebrauchen. Sie nennen sich Verwandte ... "
It is possible that this refers more to Magna Hungaria instead of Ob-Ugrians, as Scythia is usually associated with a more southern location. Jähmefyysikko ( talk) 10:40, 13 February 2024 (UTC)