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The use of the word retaliation implies this casulaty prompted the American attack, but according to Trumbull the sub was allready attacking when Harbin was killed. Neither does he indicate that the american attack was more severe due to Harbin's death. I will remove the entire second sentence above unless anyone can offer a source to justify this wording.-- john.james ( talk) 00:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
This section should be re-written as soon as possible. 216.80.110.88 ( talk) 17:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
There are references to the current location of the boat as being Muskegon, Michigan. However, there is no article text relating to that move from Chicago, Illinois. When? Why? etc. It would improve the article to include some related information.-- TGC55 ( talk) 02:54, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
The idea that Mike Harbin was "the only man to perish on the top deck of a submarine during World War II" is simply not true if all submarines of the war, including German subs, are included. Many German uboat men were killed by Allied gunfire from ships and planes throughout the war. The statement also seems dubious even if applied to American subs only, since I know I remember instances of other submariners dying on deck, though I don't have sources at hand. Perhaps the phrase "the only man to perish on the top deck of a submarine during World War II" should simply be cut? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yankees98 ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
This has strong unsourced accusations written in a POV tone that really can't stay as-is in the article; for example:
Rather than otherwise-inevitable deletion, could somebody just re-write those? North8000 ( talk) 10:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC) Edited North8000 ( talk) 13:35, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
I've just deleted some material that was both unsourced and contained what appeared to be BLP violations. I did this after a news search which turned up nothing to back these claims. Please don't restore any of it before discussion here about wording and the sources to be used. I did find a recent discussion of the new museum president. [1]. Dougweller ( talk) 12:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Additions were made on January 12th. They seemed credible. The first portion was factual type information, the second was a personal reflection. Then they were deleted for being unsourced. In case it is useful for the future, here is a copy of thew first portion:
She was moved to Navy Pier in 1976 in advance of the U. S. bicentennial celebrations. As her propellers were removed to comply with a War of 1812 Treaty she was towed. She was on display there during the celebration when Chicago hosted numerous 'Tall Ships' (sail) arrived
Also, the 1976 date conflicts with the 1979 date currently in the article, which is also unsourced.
Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 22:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
According to a YouTube documentary on the Silversides, and narrated by a curator, she had six diesels. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 20:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
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The use of the word retaliation implies this casulaty prompted the American attack, but according to Trumbull the sub was allready attacking when Harbin was killed. Neither does he indicate that the american attack was more severe due to Harbin's death. I will remove the entire second sentence above unless anyone can offer a source to justify this wording.-- john.james ( talk) 00:10, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
This section should be re-written as soon as possible. 216.80.110.88 ( talk) 17:10, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
There are references to the current location of the boat as being Muskegon, Michigan. However, there is no article text relating to that move from Chicago, Illinois. When? Why? etc. It would improve the article to include some related information.-- TGC55 ( talk) 02:54, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
The idea that Mike Harbin was "the only man to perish on the top deck of a submarine during World War II" is simply not true if all submarines of the war, including German subs, are included. Many German uboat men were killed by Allied gunfire from ships and planes throughout the war. The statement also seems dubious even if applied to American subs only, since I know I remember instances of other submariners dying on deck, though I don't have sources at hand. Perhaps the phrase "the only man to perish on the top deck of a submarine during World War II" should simply be cut? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yankees98 ( talk • contribs) 02:50, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
This has strong unsourced accusations written in a POV tone that really can't stay as-is in the article; for example:
Rather than otherwise-inevitable deletion, could somebody just re-write those? North8000 ( talk) 10:47, 16 September 2011 (UTC) Edited North8000 ( talk) 13:35, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
I've just deleted some material that was both unsourced and contained what appeared to be BLP violations. I did this after a news search which turned up nothing to back these claims. Please don't restore any of it before discussion here about wording and the sources to be used. I did find a recent discussion of the new museum president. [1]. Dougweller ( talk) 12:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Additions were made on January 12th. They seemed credible. The first portion was factual type information, the second was a personal reflection. Then they were deleted for being unsourced. In case it is useful for the future, here is a copy of thew first portion:
She was moved to Navy Pier in 1976 in advance of the U. S. bicentennial celebrations. As her propellers were removed to comply with a War of 1812 Treaty she was towed. She was on display there during the celebration when Chicago hosted numerous 'Tall Ships' (sail) arrived
Also, the 1976 date conflicts with the 1979 date currently in the article, which is also unsourced.
Sincerely, North8000 ( talk) 22:23, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
According to a YouTube documentary on the Silversides, and narrated by a curator, she had six diesels. Toyokuni3 ( talk) 20:31, 9 August 2021 (UTC)