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"to be named for the state of New York." isn't it named after the city of New York? -- 24.6.127.199 08:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
The history channel documentary about the making of this vessel states that it is named after New York (the city). All the other vessels in the San Antonio Class are also named for cities, with the exception of the USS Somerset (named for the County where United Flight 93 crashed). http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lpd-17.htm 66.73.165.197 01:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
The USS New York is named for the State of New York. I am a plank owner and currently serve onboard. All sailors that come to this ship are given command indoctrination and are told this. The ship's crest has many references to what happened on 9/11 in New York City, but above the phoenix rising from the flames of the World Trade Center you will see land with water in the foreground and maple leaves to the left and right side. This is to represent the state. We also have three, maybe more, placards around the boat that state the characteristics of the ship and that it is named for the State of New York. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.56.129.194 ( talk) 10:49, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
The ship is named for the City Of New York, NOT the State of New York. In the 20th century state names were reserved for battleships, and then once battleships were no longer being built, state names were reserved for ballistic missile submarines.
I contacted the U.S. Navy to specifically inquire whether the ship was named for the city OR the state. I received a reply from the a spokesman for the U.S. Navy stating that the ship is named for the city, NOT the state. (If anyone would like a copy of this email to contact the appropriate person in the U.S. Navy to verify this fact, please contact me at eagle11772@yahoo.com and I shall forward you the email for you to contact that person).
Cruisers and similar ships are named for cities. ALL ships in this class are named for cites. The ship really should have been named "USS City Of New York" as that is the legal (official) name of the city colloquially called "New York". The official name is NOT "New York City". It is akin to the "City Of Chicago" or the "City Of San Francisco". Just as the "City Of New York" is not "New York City", Chicago is NOT "Chicago City" nor San Francisco "San Francisco City".
Other ships in the U.S. Nave HAVE been named "USS City Of.....".
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Usswisconsin ( talk • contribs) 18:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
What do you think the next: "USS New York City (SSN-696) was a Los Angeles-class submarine and the only warship of the United States Navy to be named specifically for New York City (as distinct from the U.S. state)." In my opinion, it is clear that the submarine was named after the Big Aple and this newly built ships isn't. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.92.63.164 ( talk) 18:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
References
According to San Antonio class amphibious transport dock list is the fifth not the sixth -- Jor70 19:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
This ship's name is the New York, not the USS New York. It won't be USS until its commisioning in 2009. User:Pedant 22:50, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
The link to HullNumber.com might need to be removed because the website in question has many mistakes regarding the facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.53.42 ( talk) 15:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Could any of you editors look at this information and see if its pertent to this article, it involves me so its a COI for me to post. Scott
http://www.ussnewyork.com/wordpress/?p=350 http://www.ussnewyork.com/wordpress/?p=36
http://militarytimes.com/blogs/broadside/2009/02/18/bonded-by-a-miracle/
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.134.59 ( talk • contribs) 12:59, August 6, 2009
It is an insult to the Navy, victims of 911 and the people who serve to defend this country to have the name of the convicted felon, William Jefferson, highlighted in the text of LPD-21 as follows: Several dignitaries were in attendance, including Louisiana Congressman William J. Jefferson, Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, members of the New York Police Department and New York Fire Department, and family members of 9/11 victims.
Jefferson is a disgrace to the nation. His name in the text adds nothing to the value of the information and should not be in the same sentence as the reference to Police Dept, Fire Dept victims etc.
9-11-09
Yelodog ( talk) 15:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I would think that in retaliation, the ship would ahve been constructeded in the east ward position, considering that's the deriction from which the attacks came from. 24.2.198.231 ( talk) 18:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)11/02/09 D.Capers.
Neither the Northrop Grumman Ship Systems or the U.S. Navy practice feng shui. Ships are built with their bow facing out of the dry-dock where they are being constructed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.188.41 ( talk) 22:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
I am still confused over the name. If this class of ships is named for states, then why would her sister ships be named Somerset (town in Pennsylvania) and Arlington (city in Virginia)? Wouldn't those name choices suggest that this one is actually for New York (city in New York)? It doesn't make much sense to me that one of three would be named for a state, while the other two are named for municipalities. -- Mfwills ( talk) 02:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
The governor of New York wrote the Secretary of the Navy, asking that a surface ship be named after New York City. The request was granted in 2002 and this ship was named New York, despite not being a submarine. 71.244.188.41 ( talk) 22:44, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps it is not so odd after all. USS New York (named for a state), USS Somerset (named for what I now know is a county, not a town) and USS Arlington (named for a city). Not consistent, but somewhat understandable.-- Mfwills ( talk) 04:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
There are many dead links as well as duplicates. The dead links in the references are #2, #5, #9, #12, #13, #11 does not contain history information, and #16 does not contain a article about the subject. In external links #3 is dead —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.228.157.18 ( talk • contribs)
Can someone please fix the links here, these listed below are either dead or do not lead to a reference indicated
Notes
^ a b USS New York (LPD 21) Official Site – Commissioning Dead link https://www.pms317.navy.mil/ships/lpd21.asp
^ http://www.ussny.org/faq.php
^ Baldwin, Tom (22 May 2005). "Warship Built Out of Twin Towers Wreckage", The Times. Accessed: 2009-11-02.
^ Deepti Hajela (2 November 2009). "Ship Built With WTC Steel Comes to Namesake City". Associated Press. Accessed 2009-11-02.
^ History of the USS New York
^ http://www.ussny.org/faq.php
^ Reilly, Corinne. "Newly Commissioned New York Faces Repairs".Norfolk Virginian-Pilot, 12 January 2010.
External links Dead link Official site of the USS New York commissioning Link does not go to reference/story Baldwin, Tom. "Warship built out of Twin Towers wreckage", The Sunday Times, May 22, 2006 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.26.54 ( talk) 10:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
The article cites the amoung of WTC steel used as "symbolic," yet fails to mention WHY it is symbolic; I can't for the life of me see how such a relatively small amount is symbolic, only the fact that her BOW (the pointy end, and therefore the point of the tip of the spear she is supposed to represent) is modestly symbolic. Probably want to explain that someday. That is, if it's not so terribly inconvenient. ~AJ REDDSON — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.10.167.111 ( talk) 01:07, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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"to be named for the state of New York." isn't it named after the city of New York? -- 24.6.127.199 08:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
The history channel documentary about the making of this vessel states that it is named after New York (the city). All the other vessels in the San Antonio Class are also named for cities, with the exception of the USS Somerset (named for the County where United Flight 93 crashed). http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/lpd-17.htm 66.73.165.197 01:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
The USS New York is named for the State of New York. I am a plank owner and currently serve onboard. All sailors that come to this ship are given command indoctrination and are told this. The ship's crest has many references to what happened on 9/11 in New York City, but above the phoenix rising from the flames of the World Trade Center you will see land with water in the foreground and maple leaves to the left and right side. This is to represent the state. We also have three, maybe more, placards around the boat that state the characteristics of the ship and that it is named for the State of New York. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.56.129.194 ( talk) 10:49, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
The ship is named for the City Of New York, NOT the State of New York. In the 20th century state names were reserved for battleships, and then once battleships were no longer being built, state names were reserved for ballistic missile submarines.
I contacted the U.S. Navy to specifically inquire whether the ship was named for the city OR the state. I received a reply from the a spokesman for the U.S. Navy stating that the ship is named for the city, NOT the state. (If anyone would like a copy of this email to contact the appropriate person in the U.S. Navy to verify this fact, please contact me at eagle11772@yahoo.com and I shall forward you the email for you to contact that person).
Cruisers and similar ships are named for cities. ALL ships in this class are named for cites. The ship really should have been named "USS City Of New York" as that is the legal (official) name of the city colloquially called "New York". The official name is NOT "New York City". It is akin to the "City Of Chicago" or the "City Of San Francisco". Just as the "City Of New York" is not "New York City", Chicago is NOT "Chicago City" nor San Francisco "San Francisco City".
Other ships in the U.S. Nave HAVE been named "USS City Of.....".
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Usswisconsin ( talk • contribs) 18:25, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
What do you think the next: "USS New York City (SSN-696) was a Los Angeles-class submarine and the only warship of the United States Navy to be named specifically for New York City (as distinct from the U.S. state)." In my opinion, it is clear that the submarine was named after the Big Aple and this newly built ships isn't. [1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.92.63.164 ( talk) 18:31, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
References
According to San Antonio class amphibious transport dock list is the fifth not the sixth -- Jor70 19:58, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
This ship's name is the New York, not the USS New York. It won't be USS until its commisioning in 2009. User:Pedant 22:50, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
The link to HullNumber.com might need to be removed because the website in question has many mistakes regarding the facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.53.42 ( talk) 15:29, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Could any of you editors look at this information and see if its pertent to this article, it involves me so its a COI for me to post. Scott
http://www.ussnewyork.com/wordpress/?p=350 http://www.ussnewyork.com/wordpress/?p=36
http://militarytimes.com/blogs/broadside/2009/02/18/bonded-by-a-miracle/
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.134.59 ( talk • contribs) 12:59, August 6, 2009
It is an insult to the Navy, victims of 911 and the people who serve to defend this country to have the name of the convicted felon, William Jefferson, highlighted in the text of LPD-21 as follows: Several dignitaries were in attendance, including Louisiana Congressman William J. Jefferson, Deputy Defense Secretary Gordon England, members of the New York Police Department and New York Fire Department, and family members of 9/11 victims.
Jefferson is a disgrace to the nation. His name in the text adds nothing to the value of the information and should not be in the same sentence as the reference to Police Dept, Fire Dept victims etc.
9-11-09
Yelodog ( talk) 15:41, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
I would think that in retaliation, the ship would ahve been constructeded in the east ward position, considering that's the deriction from which the attacks came from. 24.2.198.231 ( talk) 18:06, 2 November 2009 (UTC)11/02/09 D.Capers.
Neither the Northrop Grumman Ship Systems or the U.S. Navy practice feng shui. Ships are built with their bow facing out of the dry-dock where they are being constructed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.188.41 ( talk) 22:51, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
I am still confused over the name. If this class of ships is named for states, then why would her sister ships be named Somerset (town in Pennsylvania) and Arlington (city in Virginia)? Wouldn't those name choices suggest that this one is actually for New York (city in New York)? It doesn't make much sense to me that one of three would be named for a state, while the other two are named for municipalities. -- Mfwills ( talk) 02:12, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
The governor of New York wrote the Secretary of the Navy, asking that a surface ship be named after New York City. The request was granted in 2002 and this ship was named New York, despite not being a submarine. 71.244.188.41 ( talk) 22:44, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps it is not so odd after all. USS New York (named for a state), USS Somerset (named for what I now know is a county, not a town) and USS Arlington (named for a city). Not consistent, but somewhat understandable.-- Mfwills ( talk) 04:23, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
There are many dead links as well as duplicates. The dead links in the references are #2, #5, #9, #12, #13, #11 does not contain history information, and #16 does not contain a article about the subject. In external links #3 is dead —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.228.157.18 ( talk • contribs)
Can someone please fix the links here, these listed below are either dead or do not lead to a reference indicated
Notes
^ a b USS New York (LPD 21) Official Site – Commissioning Dead link https://www.pms317.navy.mil/ships/lpd21.asp
^ http://www.ussny.org/faq.php
^ Baldwin, Tom (22 May 2005). "Warship Built Out of Twin Towers Wreckage", The Times. Accessed: 2009-11-02.
^ Deepti Hajela (2 November 2009). "Ship Built With WTC Steel Comes to Namesake City". Associated Press. Accessed 2009-11-02.
^ History of the USS New York
^ http://www.ussny.org/faq.php
^ Reilly, Corinne. "Newly Commissioned New York Faces Repairs".Norfolk Virginian-Pilot, 12 January 2010.
External links Dead link Official site of the USS New York commissioning Link does not go to reference/story Baldwin, Tom. "Warship built out of Twin Towers wreckage", The Sunday Times, May 22, 2006 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.70.26.54 ( talk) 10:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
The article cites the amoung of WTC steel used as "symbolic," yet fails to mention WHY it is symbolic; I can't for the life of me see how such a relatively small amount is symbolic, only the fact that her BOW (the pointy end, and therefore the point of the tip of the spear she is supposed to represent) is modestly symbolic. Probably want to explain that someday. That is, if it's not so terribly inconvenient. ~AJ REDDSON — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.10.167.111 ( talk) 01:07, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
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Hello This ship was featured in a Discovery Channel show called Mighty Ships, season 6 episode 4. Is there a good place in the article to mention this? thanks. 199.101.61.34 ( talk) 02:50, 20 March 2019 (UTC)