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Looks doubtful for the time being, but U2 came to Australia in 2006 for the Vertigo Tour, so I don't see why there is yet to be mention of an Australian leg. From my understanding, the shows performed here in Australia were quite successful. Perhaps more announcements are yet to follow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.37.6 ( talk) 00:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25966755-5006024,00.html the preceding link suggests that U2 may be coming to Australia in 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.84.84 ( talk) 09:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
The only source to call the tour "Kiss the Future" was Billboard. U2's official website mentions "U2360°" as the only name of the tour. If anything, this article should be renamed "U2360°" or "U2360° Tour" and mention somewhere that the tour is "also referred to as the Kiss the Future tour". I know we consider Billboard a reliable source, but I think the band's official website is much more reliable when it comes to subjects related to the band themselves. Unconscious³ ( talk) 07:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Re "U2360", "Kiss the Future Tour" did sound a bit lame and obvious for U2 especially with this new so-called new "experimental reinvention" album.-- Merbabu ( talk) 01:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
See U2 360° Tour on U2.COM -- Eivindgh ( talk) 10:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
If nothing else, I think this article has set a record by having six different names in its three days of existence ... Wasted Time R ( talk) 11:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
u2 played 29 06 2009 camp nou show too!please ,add! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.178.16.89 ( talk) 12:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
U2.com only lists the dates up to September 24 at Giants Stadium. Since there is no reliable or verifiable source to back up the claims of the Washington, Atlanta, Houston, Tampa, Dallas, etc. shows, I've removed them. I know U2.com mentions that the band will play those cities, but they don't specify when or where.
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I found this regarding Research in Motion's sponsership of the tour; I think there's some good stuff in here, but I can't figure out how to incorporate it into the article. It's some good stuff though. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 16:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Amazing. Two DYK about U2 on the front-page in 24 hours. That must be a record! Well, kudos to everyone for putting together a great article, and to Wasted Time R for nominating. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 04:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes used a 360 stage on their 1979 Tormato tour. AMCKen ( talk) 05:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)AMCKen
Absolutely, for all the spin, it is a much more economical set up. It will cost much less than Vertigo or Popmart (both with large screens, visual shows etc) to put on. It's all about money. A little cynical of them I suppose. For what it's worth they did 'in the round' before in 1987 in Croke Park, Dublin; money for old rope. Indeed, I think the U2 shows in May 2005 was a somewhat 360 set up. -- 213.94.192.200 ( talk) 12:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Pulled from article, this from User:82.170.232.178: "The concept of building the stage in the center of a stadium with the audience surrounding it has been done before by Metallica as can be seen on their 1998 video Cunning Stunts. This video is a registration of a concert in the tour supporting their 1997 album Load."
The article states that "Only tiered football stadiums can be used with this scheme; flat fields and baseball stadiums are not possible venues". However, U2 360 concert tour date in Toronto will be played in a baseball stadium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.108.73.50 ( talk) 21:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
The old Circle Star Theater in San Carlos, CA was a theater in the round, with a revolving stage. It was built in the early 60's and torn down in the late 90's. Far too small a venue for U2 to have played in even back then. Concept is not new, but as usual U2 did it in a big way. Mediasponge ( talk) 20:29, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I never understood why "Only tiered football stadiums (whether soccer or American football) can be used ..." was North American-centric, but I'm fine with "(whether football or gridiron football)" as well. Wasted Time R ( talk) 22:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
What about sitting in the line of one of the supporting pillers? It won't be too 360 then?!-- 93.107.5.135 ( talk) 20:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Njbob ( talk) 05:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
This article has some neat stuff regarding the stage design that could be added. Specifically when the first designs were made, the sheer size of it, the sound system, and the logistics (particularly the purchasing of carbon offsets to reduce the enironmental impact). MelicansMatkin ( talk) 21:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
A U2 home concert is the equivalent of Ireland winning the Grand Slam five times in the one season at home. It is like having three All Ireland Finals back to back. These aren't just Irish concerts, they are truly international events with fans travelling from Brazil to Canada, Australia to Japan -- this is Croke Park and the city of Dublin on show to the world. Just thought I'd leave it here for someone to put to good use. -- can dle • wicke 02:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
User:154.20.15.132 is torqued off about the use of DMY formatting in the article's dates, but this is clearly called for by MOS:DATE#Strong national ties to a topic: "Articles on topics with strong ties to a particular English-speaking country should generally use the more common date format for that nation. For the U.S. this is month before day; for most others it is day before month. Articles related to Canada may use either format consistently." U2 is strongly tied to Ireland, thus the use of the day before month form.
User:154.20.15.132 is also upset about the use of "[[East Rutherford, New Jersey|New York area]]" and the like to denote U.S. stadiums outside of major cities. This was an attempt by me to stop previous edit battles between formulations that just said East Rutherford or just said New York. Based on the shape of U2's fan base, many readers (perhaps a majority) of this article are outside the U.S. and may well have no idea where East Rutherford, Foxboro, Landover, Arlington, Pasadena, etc. are. I was trying to get across the market where U2 was playing, not just the piece of land that the stadium happens to be in. But if other editors don't like this, then I believe at a minimum we have to give both the town and state for the actual locations, not just the town. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (city names)#United States, there are only about 25 major U.S. cities that can be identified by city name alone. Wasted Time R ( talk) 23:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Source for the link-up with the ISS here. Can't figure out where the best place to work it in is. Anyone have any ideas? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 01:00, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to merge these two tables. Box office could be two coloumns to the right in the table. What do you think? Are1981 ( talk) 04:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Next U2 gig in doubt after Croke Park protests
Protests
More info on Croke Park shows
Even if Gothenburg eventually goes ahead perhaps these developments can be worked in somehow saying that doubts were raised. Anyway I'm leaving the sources here for those who work on this. -- can dle • wicke 15:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Found a Rolling Stone article that nicely sums up The Edge's postings on Twitter here, but I'm unsure what section it would be best integrated into. Any ideas? MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 14:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that we should split the "tour dates" section into a new, list-type article like List of U2 360° Tour concert dates or List of U2 360° Tour concerts. Right now the section is pretty big and its going to get probably two or three times longer as the tour progresses. A separate article for that would be helpful, with a {{ main}} or {{ see also}} template in the Itinerary section. – Dream out loud ( talk) 22:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
It should be left to it's original design. It's lest complex. If you're worried about space, edit the article down. It has tones of unnecessary and repetitive information in it. 75.21.92.78 ( talk) 11:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
While we're on the subject of tour dates, it seems there may be a small reversion war brewing up over the last few weeks over the format the dates table is in. So I may as well ask here; do people prefer it in this format or this format? MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 01:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Someone took out the boxscores?!?!??! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.137.171 ( talk) 03:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey guys. I'm new to this whole Wikipedia thing, but could this interview with Mark Fisher (the tour architect) be somehow integrated into the article? He mentions that "part of the tour will finish in Australia and part of the tour will finish in South America". Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8200703.stm Cheers, Sunburned Streets ( talk) 01:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know when will they announce their 2nd North American Tour Dates? I missed their show in Toronto...and I hope to catch them next time they are near by...like Montreal, Ottawa or Hamilton. Thankx. Mercenary2k ( talk) 15:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
http://www.u2.com/tour/index/ The 2010 European leg is confirmed. "Following the success of the 2009 tour, U2 have confirmed that their acclaimed 360° Tour will continue in 2010. European fans who missed out in 2009 will have a new opportunity to experience the U2 360° Tour extravaganza with stops confirmed in Germany, Denmark, Finland, Russia, Austria, Greece, Turkey, France, Brussels, Spain and Portugal. Having just introduced the U2 Mobile Album, 'No Line On The Horizon', the band's 12th studio album, the 2010 tour will once again be sponsored by BlackBerry." RayOfLight ( talk) 12:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Images of the tour are important to the article, since it (like most U2 tours) is an extremely visual show in addition to the musical content. Furthermore, images do not have to be taken from the front of the stage; the show is designed to appeal to audiences throughout the stadium, and those other perspectives are valuable for the reader to see as well. (Arguably, you can't fully appreciate the claw except from some distance back.) It's also okay to have to click on an image to get a full understanding of what it shows; that's true of almost all WP images, due to the article layout policy requiring thumbnail-size-only images in articles. Images in song articles are also valuable for these same reasons; our song articles tend to be visually dry recitations of release dates and chart statistics and remix track listings. Anything that can liven them up and illustrate points is all to the better. Wasted Time R ( talk) 03:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Might be some good (previously unrevealed) stuff in this article. MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 02:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to continue this current edit war so I'll open this discussion instead. It is naturally mentioned on U2.com that the band are playing at Glastonbury, but that does not make it a part of the tour. If you look at the actual tour dates you will find that it is not listed; see for yourself. I will also note that, although they are not official sources, neither U2Gigs or U2Tours lists it as a part of the tour. No source that I have seen says it is part of the tour either. The Glastonbury Festival is just an extra concert that they are playing in between tour dates. It is no more a part of U2 360° than Live 8 was part of the Vertigo Tour. Until there is an official announcement from a credible source (U2.com or Live Nation) that explicitly states the Glastonbury Festival date is a part of the U2 360° Tour (ex. the U2.com Tour Index adding the Glastonbury Festival to the tour dates), it is nothing more an assumption and shouldn't be included.
I will note that I am not adverse to mentioning in the Itenarary section that part-way through the third leg they performed at Glastonbury, but since it is not part of the tour I am adament that it should not be included as such. MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 20:49, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
To break up the 2011 North American Tour into 2 different legs just because they played Glastonbury is utterly ridiculous. So one leg ends on June 22nd, and the next leg commences 4 days later. Farcical! And because they play in Glastonbury, that is denoted an entire leg of the 360 Tour! Even though the 360 stage was absent. Some people are clueless.
The decision to edit in this manner appears to have been a kneejerk one, given that the dates of all these events have been known for a long time. The 2011 North America leg has always been laid out correctly as a single leg, until this weekend when the Glastonbury performance took place. Only now does someone decide that the 2011 North America leg is actually 2 different legs, 4 days apart! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevej565 ( talk • contribs) 22:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Larry says here that Glastonbury is a totally different thing for U2 ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00hpc9s). It's leaving all the 'bells and whistles' of the 360 behind. That's what made it special for the band. I don't think it should be included as a 360 date. JohnSMS88 ( talk) 08:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
If anybody understands any of this techy stuff, there's probably some good information regarding the way they mix the sound and such that could be incorporated. It's all gibberish to me, so I post this in the hopes that somebody else understands it. MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 07:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.34.77 ( talk) 21:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm not reading this correctly, but my understanding is that the box office table shows every show on the tour as sold out? If so, that's completely and totally inaccurate. I know for a fact the Houston show did not sell out, as I work at the venue in question. I'm sure this was the case for many other shows during the US tour. High ticket prices and a weak economy ensured only a few US shows in major cities sold out completely. If we're going to post inaccurate data, I nominate the box office table for removal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.207.229 ( talk) 07:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Its also worth noting that Billboard has reported inaccurate information in the past (such as the incorrect tour name), and if the box office data is any indicator, perhaps they are not a reliable source of information. I would like to see the box office data as released by the band (verifiable). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.207.229 ( talk) 07:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I understand your point, but as I mentioned earlier, I work at the venue and was present the night of the show. Tickets in several price levels were still available at the box office during the performance. While its not unusual for promoters to release previously reserved tickets immediately prior to a show, there was never a point when tickets were unavailable to the public. Hence, it didn't sell out. Either the number of tickets available is inaccurate, or the number of tickets sold, but the table information is definitely inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.207.229 ( talk) 07:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
When it comes to the pop music industry, verifiability is often not truth. I've been to shows that were listed as 'sold out' when there were clearly sections of empty seats. I've read newspaper reviews of shows that said song X was played when in fact it wasn't; the reporter had to leave to make a deadline and incorrectly assumed that a well-known hit was played later. I've even read a newspaper review of a show that said person Y was on stage when in fact he wasn't; when I emailed the reporter, she said she had relied on outdated press kit material and hadn't realized that Y had dropped off the tour earlier due to a personality clash. So it goes. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your replies and thoughts on the subject. I attempted to remove the content as suggested by MelicansMatkin, but the edit was reverted by another fan. Oh well, I havent the tolerance for an edit war. Maybe the band will release official statistics at the conclusion of the tour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.155.244 ( talk) 07:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
What happened to the billboard boxscore column? 75.22.20.86 ( talk) 04:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I did and it seems that the consensus was that regardless of whether the person who worked for the venue had inside information it's still original research and therefore the source from Billboard is still valid per wikipedia's verifiability policy. I don't see a real valid reason to remove it as long as it's source is reliable or verifiable and Billboard is just that. 75.22.20.86 ( talk) 22:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the postponed dates also be listed on the page, under a section titled "Postponed Dates" or something like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.189.73 ( talk) 03:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
According to KDKA-TV, a show is going to be added in Pittsburgh at Heinz Field. It hasn't officially been annonced yet. http://kdka.com/entertainment/U2.Heinz.Field.2.1905343.html
Should we include this info on the page somewhere? Not under tour dates since it hasn't been officially annonced, but somewhere on the page. What do you all think?-- Starman15317 ( talk) 04:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Does anybody have the boxscore data for the completed third leg? Or is it as I suspected the last time these were discussed and the table will remain incomplete into perpetuity? Melicans ( talk, contributions) 19:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
According to http://www.u2.com/tour there are only 3 legs of the tour. I am not sure why people keep changing it to include 7 legs without referencing a source. 174.116.38.15 ( talk) 12:56, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Should we add these artists as support acts? 188.141.24.232 ( talk) 17:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
References 94, 110, 111, and 115, are all bare links. Can somebody fix this issue? 4 Stars ( talk) 22:46, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
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Looks doubtful for the time being, but U2 came to Australia in 2006 for the Vertigo Tour, so I don't see why there is yet to be mention of an Australian leg. From my understanding, the shows performed here in Australia were quite successful. Perhaps more announcements are yet to follow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.107.37.6 ( talk) 00:13, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,25966755-5006024,00.html the preceding link suggests that U2 may be coming to Australia in 2011 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.84.84 ( talk) 09:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
The only source to call the tour "Kiss the Future" was Billboard. U2's official website mentions "U2360°" as the only name of the tour. If anything, this article should be renamed "U2360°" or "U2360° Tour" and mention somewhere that the tour is "also referred to as the Kiss the Future tour". I know we consider Billboard a reliable source, but I think the band's official website is much more reliable when it comes to subjects related to the band themselves. Unconscious³ ( talk) 07:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Re "U2360", "Kiss the Future Tour" did sound a bit lame and obvious for U2 especially with this new so-called new "experimental reinvention" album.-- Merbabu ( talk) 01:15, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
See U2 360° Tour on U2.COM -- Eivindgh ( talk) 10:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
If nothing else, I think this article has set a record by having six different names in its three days of existence ... Wasted Time R ( talk) 11:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
u2 played 29 06 2009 camp nou show too!please ,add! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.178.16.89 ( talk) 12:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
U2.com only lists the dates up to September 24 at Giants Stadium. Since there is no reliable or verifiable source to back up the claims of the Washington, Atlanta, Houston, Tampa, Dallas, etc. shows, I've removed them. I know U2.com mentions that the band will play those cities, but they don't specify when or where.
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I found this regarding Research in Motion's sponsership of the tour; I think there's some good stuff in here, but I can't figure out how to incorporate it into the article. It's some good stuff though. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 16:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Amazing. Two DYK about U2 on the front-page in 24 hours. That must be a record! Well, kudos to everyone for putting together a great article, and to Wasted Time R for nominating. MelicansMatkin ( talk) 04:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Yes used a 360 stage on their 1979 Tormato tour. AMCKen ( talk) 05:40, 13 March 2009 (UTC)AMCKen
Absolutely, for all the spin, it is a much more economical set up. It will cost much less than Vertigo or Popmart (both with large screens, visual shows etc) to put on. It's all about money. A little cynical of them I suppose. For what it's worth they did 'in the round' before in 1987 in Croke Park, Dublin; money for old rope. Indeed, I think the U2 shows in May 2005 was a somewhat 360 set up. -- 213.94.192.200 ( talk) 12:27, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Pulled from article, this from User:82.170.232.178: "The concept of building the stage in the center of a stadium with the audience surrounding it has been done before by Metallica as can be seen on their 1998 video Cunning Stunts. This video is a registration of a concert in the tour supporting their 1997 album Load."
The article states that "Only tiered football stadiums can be used with this scheme; flat fields and baseball stadiums are not possible venues". However, U2 360 concert tour date in Toronto will be played in a baseball stadium. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.108.73.50 ( talk) 21:31, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
The old Circle Star Theater in San Carlos, CA was a theater in the round, with a revolving stage. It was built in the early 60's and torn down in the late 90's. Far too small a venue for U2 to have played in even back then. Concept is not new, but as usual U2 did it in a big way. Mediasponge ( talk) 20:29, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
To be honest, I never understood why "Only tiered football stadiums (whether soccer or American football) can be used ..." was North American-centric, but I'm fine with "(whether football or gridiron football)" as well. Wasted Time R ( talk) 22:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
What about sitting in the line of one of the supporting pillers? It won't be too 360 then?!-- 93.107.5.135 ( talk) 20:29, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Njbob ( talk) 05:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
This article has some neat stuff regarding the stage design that could be added. Specifically when the first designs were made, the sheer size of it, the sound system, and the logistics (particularly the purchasing of carbon offsets to reduce the enironmental impact). MelicansMatkin ( talk) 21:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
A U2 home concert is the equivalent of Ireland winning the Grand Slam five times in the one season at home. It is like having three All Ireland Finals back to back. These aren't just Irish concerts, they are truly international events with fans travelling from Brazil to Canada, Australia to Japan -- this is Croke Park and the city of Dublin on show to the world. Just thought I'd leave it here for someone to put to good use. -- can dle • wicke 02:28, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
User:154.20.15.132 is torqued off about the use of DMY formatting in the article's dates, but this is clearly called for by MOS:DATE#Strong national ties to a topic: "Articles on topics with strong ties to a particular English-speaking country should generally use the more common date format for that nation. For the U.S. this is month before day; for most others it is day before month. Articles related to Canada may use either format consistently." U2 is strongly tied to Ireland, thus the use of the day before month form.
User:154.20.15.132 is also upset about the use of "[[East Rutherford, New Jersey|New York area]]" and the like to denote U.S. stadiums outside of major cities. This was an attempt by me to stop previous edit battles between formulations that just said East Rutherford or just said New York. Based on the shape of U2's fan base, many readers (perhaps a majority) of this article are outside the U.S. and may well have no idea where East Rutherford, Foxboro, Landover, Arlington, Pasadena, etc. are. I was trying to get across the market where U2 was playing, not just the piece of land that the stadium happens to be in. But if other editors don't like this, then I believe at a minimum we have to give both the town and state for the actual locations, not just the town. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (city names)#United States, there are only about 25 major U.S. cities that can be identified by city name alone. Wasted Time R ( talk) 23:09, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Source for the link-up with the ISS here. Can't figure out where the best place to work it in is. Anyone have any ideas? MelicansMatkin ( talk) 01:00, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
I'd like to merge these two tables. Box office could be two coloumns to the right in the table. What do you think? Are1981 ( talk) 04:21, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
Next U2 gig in doubt after Croke Park protests
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Even if Gothenburg eventually goes ahead perhaps these developments can be worked in somehow saying that doubts were raised. Anyway I'm leaving the sources here for those who work on this. -- can dle • wicke 15:05, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
Found a Rolling Stone article that nicely sums up The Edge's postings on Twitter here, but I'm unsure what section it would be best integrated into. Any ideas? MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 14:42, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
I think that we should split the "tour dates" section into a new, list-type article like List of U2 360° Tour concert dates or List of U2 360° Tour concerts. Right now the section is pretty big and its going to get probably two or three times longer as the tour progresses. A separate article for that would be helpful, with a {{ main}} or {{ see also}} template in the Itinerary section. – Dream out loud ( talk) 22:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
It should be left to it's original design. It's lest complex. If you're worried about space, edit the article down. It has tones of unnecessary and repetitive information in it. 75.21.92.78 ( talk) 11:25, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
While we're on the subject of tour dates, it seems there may be a small reversion war brewing up over the last few weeks over the format the dates table is in. So I may as well ask here; do people prefer it in this format or this format? MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 01:25, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
Someone took out the boxscores?!?!??! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.169.137.171 ( talk) 03:44, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
Hey guys. I'm new to this whole Wikipedia thing, but could this interview with Mark Fisher (the tour architect) be somehow integrated into the article? He mentions that "part of the tour will finish in Australia and part of the tour will finish in South America". Link: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8200703.stm Cheers, Sunburned Streets ( talk) 01:18, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
Does anyone know when will they announce their 2nd North American Tour Dates? I missed their show in Toronto...and I hope to catch them next time they are near by...like Montreal, Ottawa or Hamilton. Thankx. Mercenary2k ( talk) 15:23, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
http://www.u2.com/tour/index/ The 2010 European leg is confirmed. "Following the success of the 2009 tour, U2 have confirmed that their acclaimed 360° Tour will continue in 2010. European fans who missed out in 2009 will have a new opportunity to experience the U2 360° Tour extravaganza with stops confirmed in Germany, Denmark, Finland, Russia, Austria, Greece, Turkey, France, Brussels, Spain and Portugal. Having just introduced the U2 Mobile Album, 'No Line On The Horizon', the band's 12th studio album, the 2010 tour will once again be sponsored by BlackBerry." RayOfLight ( talk) 12:32, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
Images of the tour are important to the article, since it (like most U2 tours) is an extremely visual show in addition to the musical content. Furthermore, images do not have to be taken from the front of the stage; the show is designed to appeal to audiences throughout the stadium, and those other perspectives are valuable for the reader to see as well. (Arguably, you can't fully appreciate the claw except from some distance back.) It's also okay to have to click on an image to get a full understanding of what it shows; that's true of almost all WP images, due to the article layout policy requiring thumbnail-size-only images in articles. Images in song articles are also valuable for these same reasons; our song articles tend to be visually dry recitations of release dates and chart statistics and remix track listings. Anything that can liven them up and illustrate points is all to the better. Wasted Time R ( talk) 03:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
Might be some good (previously unrevealed) stuff in this article. MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 02:11, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
I don't want to continue this current edit war so I'll open this discussion instead. It is naturally mentioned on U2.com that the band are playing at Glastonbury, but that does not make it a part of the tour. If you look at the actual tour dates you will find that it is not listed; see for yourself. I will also note that, although they are not official sources, neither U2Gigs or U2Tours lists it as a part of the tour. No source that I have seen says it is part of the tour either. The Glastonbury Festival is just an extra concert that they are playing in between tour dates. It is no more a part of U2 360° than Live 8 was part of the Vertigo Tour. Until there is an official announcement from a credible source (U2.com or Live Nation) that explicitly states the Glastonbury Festival date is a part of the U2 360° Tour (ex. the U2.com Tour Index adding the Glastonbury Festival to the tour dates), it is nothing more an assumption and shouldn't be included.
I will note that I am not adverse to mentioning in the Itenarary section that part-way through the third leg they performed at Glastonbury, but since it is not part of the tour I am adament that it should not be included as such. MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 20:49, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
To break up the 2011 North American Tour into 2 different legs just because they played Glastonbury is utterly ridiculous. So one leg ends on June 22nd, and the next leg commences 4 days later. Farcical! And because they play in Glastonbury, that is denoted an entire leg of the 360 Tour! Even though the 360 stage was absent. Some people are clueless.
The decision to edit in this manner appears to have been a kneejerk one, given that the dates of all these events have been known for a long time. The 2011 North America leg has always been laid out correctly as a single leg, until this weekend when the Glastonbury performance took place. Only now does someone decide that the 2011 North America leg is actually 2 different legs, 4 days apart! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevej565 ( talk • contribs) 22:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Larry says here that Glastonbury is a totally different thing for U2 ( http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00hpc9s). It's leaving all the 'bells and whistles' of the 360 behind. That's what made it special for the band. I don't think it should be included as a 360 date. JohnSMS88 ( talk) 08:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
If anybody understands any of this techy stuff, there's probably some good information regarding the way they mix the sound and such that could be incorporated. It's all gibberish to me, so I post this in the hopes that somebody else understands it. MelicansMatkin ( talk, contributions) 07:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.203.34.77 ( talk) 21:29, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
Perhaps I'm not reading this correctly, but my understanding is that the box office table shows every show on the tour as sold out? If so, that's completely and totally inaccurate. I know for a fact the Houston show did not sell out, as I work at the venue in question. I'm sure this was the case for many other shows during the US tour. High ticket prices and a weak economy ensured only a few US shows in major cities sold out completely. If we're going to post inaccurate data, I nominate the box office table for removal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.207.229 ( talk) 07:34, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
Its also worth noting that Billboard has reported inaccurate information in the past (such as the incorrect tour name), and if the box office data is any indicator, perhaps they are not a reliable source of information. I would like to see the box office data as released by the band (verifiable). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.207.229 ( talk) 07:53, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
I understand your point, but as I mentioned earlier, I work at the venue and was present the night of the show. Tickets in several price levels were still available at the box office during the performance. While its not unusual for promoters to release previously reserved tickets immediately prior to a show, there was never a point when tickets were unavailable to the public. Hence, it didn't sell out. Either the number of tickets available is inaccurate, or the number of tickets sold, but the table information is definitely inaccurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.207.229 ( talk) 07:25, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
When it comes to the pop music industry, verifiability is often not truth. I've been to shows that were listed as 'sold out' when there were clearly sections of empty seats. I've read newspaper reviews of shows that said song X was played when in fact it wasn't; the reporter had to leave to make a deadline and incorrectly assumed that a well-known hit was played later. I've even read a newspaper review of a show that said person Y was on stage when in fact he wasn't; when I emailed the reporter, she said she had relied on outdated press kit material and hadn't realized that Y had dropped off the tour earlier due to a personality clash. So it goes. Wasted Time R ( talk) 14:48, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your replies and thoughts on the subject. I attempted to remove the content as suggested by MelicansMatkin, but the edit was reverted by another fan. Oh well, I havent the tolerance for an edit war. Maybe the band will release official statistics at the conclusion of the tour. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.151.155.244 ( talk) 07:11, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
What happened to the billboard boxscore column? 75.22.20.86 ( talk) 04:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
I did and it seems that the consensus was that regardless of whether the person who worked for the venue had inside information it's still original research and therefore the source from Billboard is still valid per wikipedia's verifiability policy. I don't see a real valid reason to remove it as long as it's source is reliable or verifiable and Billboard is just that. 75.22.20.86 ( talk) 22:34, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
Shouldn't the postponed dates also be listed on the page, under a section titled "Postponed Dates" or something like that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.189.73 ( talk) 03:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
According to KDKA-TV, a show is going to be added in Pittsburgh at Heinz Field. It hasn't officially been annonced yet. http://kdka.com/entertainment/U2.Heinz.Field.2.1905343.html
Should we include this info on the page somewhere? Not under tour dates since it hasn't been officially annonced, but somewhere on the page. What do you all think?-- Starman15317 ( talk) 04:57, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
Does anybody have the boxscore data for the completed third leg? Or is it as I suspected the last time these were discussed and the table will remain incomplete into perpetuity? Melicans ( talk, contributions) 19:42, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
According to http://www.u2.com/tour there are only 3 legs of the tour. I am not sure why people keep changing it to include 7 legs without referencing a source. 174.116.38.15 ( talk) 12:56, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
Should we add these artists as support acts? 188.141.24.232 ( talk) 17:54, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
References 94, 110, 111, and 115, are all bare links. Can somebody fix this issue? 4 Stars ( talk) 22:46, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
I think this article should be rated High importance on the bands significance, I will also try to get this into GA status. Any opinions? -- Prabash What? 13:31, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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