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BTW, good idea breaking this out. It is a bit ironic because the Overtone Singing page started as a page on Tuvan throat singing then bits of other stuff got added to it that made it less Tuvan. Then someone created that "Types of" page which I thought was too redundant, but this now works. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 16:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I changed the "Kargryaa" to "Kargyraa" after noticing that the page Overtone singing had the latter spelling. My choice of changing this page's spelling is based on a) a google search that yeilded over 600 times more results for "Kargyraa" than for its alternative, and b) to my very very basic understanding of Cyrilic, which seems to indicate this pronunciation. If you find me wrong, please feel free to correct me. Emaskask ( talk) 04:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
It seems to have [been] reverted! Good grief.
I also noted inconsistent spelling between the Khoomei title and the body text; in the latter, it says "khomeii" more than once. I was going to fix these, but I'm not sure of correct spellings. I've seen it, more than once, as "khöömei", btw.
Regards, Nikevich ( talk) 09:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
The article says, "Dumchuktaar (written in Cyrillic: Думчуктаар) could be best described as "throat humming". The singer creates a sound similar to sygyt using only the nasal passage. The word means to sing through the nose (dumchuk). The mouth does not need to be closed, but of course it demonstrates the point better."
Fisrt of all, dumchuktaar does not necessarily sound similar to sygyt. Dumchuktaar is simply throat singing nasally. You can sing khoomei, sygyt, or kargyraa in dumchuktaar. The last clause, "but of course it demonstrates the point better," while true, does not seem encyclopedically suitable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.187.150.45 ( talk) 17:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Please join a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Central_Asia/Tuva_task_force#Transliteration_of_Tuvan_Language. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 23:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
The paragraph beginning "Ordinarily, melodies are created by..." and the accompanying image of the harmonic series looks out of place. It does not elaborate on any of the content around it. If the discussion of the harmonic series is relevant to Tuvan throat singing, that needs to be made clear in this paragraph; otherwise this paragraph and the image adds nothing and should be removed. ProfGiles ( talk) 10:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Why is there a whole section on Mongolian performers and bands when Mongolia and Tuva are separate countries, and this article is about Tuva (not Mongolia)? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 05:18, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. While there is some indication that the current title may not be ideal, there is no consensus for the move as proposed.( non-admin closure) Mdewman6 ( talk) 23:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
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– The technique does not appear to be unique to Tuvans; in fact it appears to be more commonly associated with Mongolia. Much of the article also describes more of Mongolian rather than Tuvan singing. It would make more sense to use the common name; otherwise "Mongolian throat singing" would also do fine. No News ! 06:45, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
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BTW, good idea breaking this out. It is a bit ironic because the Overtone Singing page started as a page on Tuvan throat singing then bits of other stuff got added to it that made it less Tuvan. Then someone created that "Types of" page which I thought was too redundant, but this now works. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 16:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
I changed the "Kargryaa" to "Kargyraa" after noticing that the page Overtone singing had the latter spelling. My choice of changing this page's spelling is based on a) a google search that yeilded over 600 times more results for "Kargyraa" than for its alternative, and b) to my very very basic understanding of Cyrilic, which seems to indicate this pronunciation. If you find me wrong, please feel free to correct me. Emaskask ( talk) 04:18, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
It seems to have [been] reverted! Good grief.
I also noted inconsistent spelling between the Khoomei title and the body text; in the latter, it says "khomeii" more than once. I was going to fix these, but I'm not sure of correct spellings. I've seen it, more than once, as "khöömei", btw.
Regards, Nikevich ( talk) 09:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
The article says, "Dumchuktaar (written in Cyrillic: Думчуктаар) could be best described as "throat humming". The singer creates a sound similar to sygyt using only the nasal passage. The word means to sing through the nose (dumchuk). The mouth does not need to be closed, but of course it demonstrates the point better."
Fisrt of all, dumchuktaar does not necessarily sound similar to sygyt. Dumchuktaar is simply throat singing nasally. You can sing khoomei, sygyt, or kargyraa in dumchuktaar. The last clause, "but of course it demonstrates the point better," while true, does not seem encyclopedically suitable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.187.150.45 ( talk) 17:59, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Please join a discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Central_Asia/Tuva_task_force#Transliteration_of_Tuvan_Language. -- Stacey Doljack Borsody ( talk) 23:41, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
The paragraph beginning "Ordinarily, melodies are created by..." and the accompanying image of the harmonic series looks out of place. It does not elaborate on any of the content around it. If the discussion of the harmonic series is relevant to Tuvan throat singing, that needs to be made clear in this paragraph; otherwise this paragraph and the image adds nothing and should be removed. ProfGiles ( talk) 10:59, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
Why is there a whole section on Mongolian performers and bands when Mongolia and Tuva are separate countries, and this article is about Tuva (not Mongolia)? 173.88.246.138 ( talk) 05:18, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: Not moved. While there is some indication that the current title may not be ideal, there is no consensus for the move as proposed.( non-admin closure) Mdewman6 ( talk) 23:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
It was proposed in this section that multiple pages be
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– The technique does not appear to be unique to Tuvans; in fact it appears to be more commonly associated with Mongolia. Much of the article also describes more of Mongolian rather than Tuvan singing. It would make more sense to use the common name; otherwise "Mongolian throat singing" would also do fine. No News ! 06:45, 17 June 2021 (UTC)