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The result of the proposal was No move, keep the article at Tumbleweed, not Tumbleweed (diaspore). Parsecboy ( talk) 18:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Tumbleweed (disambiguation) to Tumbleweed; a move over redirect. Of the current 34 incoming mainspace links to Tumbleweed, most are not related to Salsola. Also, the current redirect of Tumbleweed to Salsola needs to be changed because Salsola is not the only genus of plants that make tumbleweeds. Some other plants do it too (eg, Sisymbrium altissimum). -- Una Smith ( talk) 02:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Most people call a tumbleweed a tumbleweed, no matter what species makes it. So perhaps there should be a Wikipedia article about the tumbleweed habit. Some other plants that have this habit include:
-- Una Smith ( talk) 15:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Tumbleweed is an ambiguous base name and that page currently has a number of incoming links that need disambiguation. Perhaps someone who is opposed to moving Tumbleweed (disambiguation) to the base name would like to disambiguate those links? See Special:WhatLinksHere/Tumbleweed. At the moment, there are just 43 mainspace links. Judging by their pages names, about 20 have nothing to do with either the diaspore itself or plants called "tumbleweed". -- Una Smith ( talk) 17:47, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I suggest enough time has passed here. I see everyone in opposition to this move, except for Una. Can we close this now? The current state of affairs is that there is an article at tumbleweed that is not specific to any particular variety, but discusses them conceptually. It has the dab link at the top so readers can find more info on specific varieties as they desire. That seems a good outcome (granted, it's not the state of affairs when this started, at that time the Salsola article was at the name, which may not have been optimal)... so are we now done? ++ Lar: t/ c 04:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Una, you said you were discuss this, so stop creating the wikilinks to the Salsola article, which says nothing about these unrelated genera. Creating wikilinks that take people to seemingly unrelated pages without any explanation is not helpful. Wikilink to pages that give MORE information directly about what is linked. That means linking to an article about tumbleweeds which includes a discussion of the common name, as I said before, as you agreed before, as you said you were discussing, here, but now are moving ahead without discussion. -- KP Botany ( talk) 02:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I changed the redirect from tumbleweed to Salsola to an article about tumbleweeds, as the common name is defined. I checked a dozen on-line dictionaries, the name is fairly standard for weeds that tumble about in the wind. The article can now be edited. -- KP Botany ( talk) 03:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I moved tumbleweed to tumbleweed where it belongs. Even Una can't seem to define the term she made up, "tumbleweed (diaspore)" so I've requested it be quickly put out of its misery. And ours. -- KP Botany ( talk) 02:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
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The result of the proposal was No move, keep the article at Tumbleweed, not Tumbleweed (diaspore). Parsecboy ( talk) 18:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
Tumbleweed (disambiguation) to Tumbleweed; a move over redirect. Of the current 34 incoming mainspace links to Tumbleweed, most are not related to Salsola. Also, the current redirect of Tumbleweed to Salsola needs to be changed because Salsola is not the only genus of plants that make tumbleweeds. Some other plants do it too (eg, Sisymbrium altissimum). -- Una Smith ( talk) 02:23, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Most people call a tumbleweed a tumbleweed, no matter what species makes it. So perhaps there should be a Wikipedia article about the tumbleweed habit. Some other plants that have this habit include:
-- Una Smith ( talk) 15:11, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Tumbleweed is an ambiguous base name and that page currently has a number of incoming links that need disambiguation. Perhaps someone who is opposed to moving Tumbleweed (disambiguation) to the base name would like to disambiguate those links? See Special:WhatLinksHere/Tumbleweed. At the moment, there are just 43 mainspace links. Judging by their pages names, about 20 have nothing to do with either the diaspore itself or plants called "tumbleweed". -- Una Smith ( talk) 17:47, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I suggest enough time has passed here. I see everyone in opposition to this move, except for Una. Can we close this now? The current state of affairs is that there is an article at tumbleweed that is not specific to any particular variety, but discusses them conceptually. It has the dab link at the top so readers can find more info on specific varieties as they desire. That seems a good outcome (granted, it's not the state of affairs when this started, at that time the Salsola article was at the name, which may not have been optimal)... so are we now done? ++ Lar: t/ c 04:51, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
Una, you said you were discuss this, so stop creating the wikilinks to the Salsola article, which says nothing about these unrelated genera. Creating wikilinks that take people to seemingly unrelated pages without any explanation is not helpful. Wikilink to pages that give MORE information directly about what is linked. That means linking to an article about tumbleweeds which includes a discussion of the common name, as I said before, as you agreed before, as you said you were discussing, here, but now are moving ahead without discussion. -- KP Botany ( talk) 02:40, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I changed the redirect from tumbleweed to Salsola to an article about tumbleweeds, as the common name is defined. I checked a dozen on-line dictionaries, the name is fairly standard for weeds that tumble about in the wind. The article can now be edited. -- KP Botany ( talk) 03:03, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
I moved tumbleweed to tumbleweed where it belongs. Even Una can't seem to define the term she made up, "tumbleweed (diaspore)" so I've requested it be quickly put out of its misery. And ours. -- KP Botany ( talk) 02:49, 5 January 2009 (UTC)