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This article seems to be, and probably was, written by a staffer for the other candidate. It reads like a list of talking points from the other candidate, not a neutral biography. For one, the only stances on issues listed relate to controversial topics such as the 2020 election and abortion. What about education? Fiscal policy? Taxes? Infrastructure? Wikipedia has gone so far from what it used to be. I’m not going to criticize without offering some ideas to make it more neutral, so here’s a few. List some other issues and descriptions of positions that aren’t attack vectors from the other candidate, such as those previously listed. Use one the many photo’s that are licensed that aren’t the worst possible one you could find. This article is way too biased, just make it neutral. It reads like the script for an attack ad. This article should be unlocked given that whoever is currently in charge of it wants it to be that way. 2601:40A:8101:F400:9DFF:5937:8016:612 ( talk) 05:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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The birthplace of Tudor Dixon needs to be corrected. She was not born in Muskegon, Michigan. She was born and raised in Illinois. Here is a USA Today article as a source: https://news.yahoo.com/tudor-dixon-4-things-know-113407992.html. Thank you. 174.249.212.4 ( talk) 18:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC) 174.249.212.4 ( talk) 18:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Also, this article needs to be more neutral. It is far too biased and hostile. 174.249.212.4 ( talk) 18:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Tudor Dixon was born in Illinois not Muskegon Michigan. 2600:6C4A:4A7F:F0DE:955B:8E9D:944E:B97 ( talk) 03:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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This article is completely biased, even those siding with her can agree. I suspect this was written solely by a political enemy. This article should just state helpful facts rather than attempt to degrade. Keeping this semi-locked does not benefit anyone, and proves it difficult to fix biased errors. Superiorpsyche ( talk) 14:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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Remove Clearly partisan comments on political candidates page in the case remove the sentence about Dixon supporting conspiracy theories and the comment inserted under abortion "without explanation" both 'sources' are highly partisan and have little to no evidence in their articles. This can sway an election and may have already, which is probably the intent. labeling something a consipracy just because the right believes it and the left doesn't is the begining of fascism. even if it is an actual conspiracy theory it also fall under free speech. Politics should be neutral on information sites. Lionsarenotsafe ( talk) 15:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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(talk) 22:14, 18 October 2022 (UTC)Under Early life and education 2000 isn't possessive. The apostrophe needs to be removed, as "2000s". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.32.126.32 ( talk) 04:31, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
This is not a fair and objective Wikipedia page, and a demonstration how left of center partisans gain control of otherwise “objective sources.”
Why is she accused of COVID disinformation on the third sentence of the page? That’s preposterous. Is the third line in Gretchen Whitmer’s Wikipedia that she spread misinformation about the need to send the elderly to nursing homes, the need for aggressive shutdowns, and the support for long periods of remote school? How about her misinformation about line 5 having any material impact on global temperatures? How about the disinformation that Michigan will revert to a total abortion ban when the Michigan Supreme Court is very liberal?
Politicians can have unpopular and disagreeable positions and policies. Many times they are not factually supported or turn out wrong. It is wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia to make contested and inflammatory accusations of a major candidate in a initial bio section of the page, reserved primarily for basic and fundamental facts about the person’s identity. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that partisan democrats edit Wikipedia and then lock it for editing. These obviously political statements should be removed or placed in a section later in the article. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 12:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Please place a normal, accepted photo akin to a neutral news source as her bio photo. The photo chosen is obviously poor quality: it’s zoomed it, granular, and the candidate does not appear as though she is ready or expecting a photograph to be taken and used. She isn’t smiling and making an odd, apprehensive face. If the photo is cut from a longer video, that is even worse. Why was this photo, with this facial expression, cut from a video?
Feel free to look up any reasonable, non-partisan news source and take a reasonable photo of her. This otherwise demonstrates a remarkable lake of taste and fairness. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 13:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
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This article is clearly politically biased. One possible way to amend this is by adding that Dixon opposes the school and societal lockdowns Gretchen Whitmer imposed during COVID. In addition, this article should discuss crime, which is a major issue. Dixon supports enhanced funding and involvement for police to address crime in the state.
In addition, education policy is not just ESAs. Dixon supports school choice and the ability of students to attend charters. This should be mentioned if the article is also going to be talking in detail about Dixon’s position on sexually explicit material for third graders. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 13:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
This is not a fair and objective Wikipedia page, and a demonstration how left of center partisans gain control of otherwise “objective sources.”
Why is she accused of COVID disinformation on the third sentence of the page? That’s preposterous. Is the third line in Gretchen Whitmer’s Wikipedia that she spread misinformation about the need to send the elderly to nursing homes, the need for aggressive shutdowns, and the support for long periods of remote school? How about her misinformation about line 5 having any material impact on global temperatures? How about the disinformation that Michigan will revert to a total abortion ban when the Michigan Supreme Court is very liberal?
Politicians can have unpopular and disagreeable positions and policies. Many times they are not factually supported or turn out wrong. It is wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia to make contested and inflammatory accusations of a major candidate in a initial bio section of the page, reserved primarily for basic and fundamental facts about the person’s identity. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that partisan democrats edit Wikipedia and then lock it for editing. These obviously political statements should be removed or placed in a section later in the article. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 12:51, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
The sentence "She has promoted misinformation about topics such as COVID-19 and the 2020 presidential election" in the lede is WP:UNDUE. It's not a good reflection of the weight given to this content in the body, relative to other content in the body. Please gain WP:CONSENSUS before re-adding. Marquardtika ( talk) 20:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
The article states that Dixon would support barring teachers from “talking” about sexual identity. Yet the article cited paraphrases the bill without citation to the language.
Wikipedia should not be misleading people on the meaning of legal language promoted by serious candidates for public office. The source cited notes that Dixon was reintroducing the sexual identity bill from Florida. But that bill does not prohibit “talking” about sexuality, it prohibits lecturing, teaching, or having curriculum that is not “age appropriate.” It is totally misleading to imply the bill in Florida prohibits talking about homosexuality in any way, in any circumstance, just advancing it as part of classroom instruction for kindergarteners to third graders.
Someone who can fairly interpret and read legal language should confirm this assertion, which is bare citation from a local news source paraphrasing a highly politicized topic. 2601:400:8001:2150:A58D:EDE0:B9AF:8265 ( talk) 02:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Why does this page out of nowhere mention the DeVoses also support Dixon’s positions on school choice? It is very disjointed and not well explained. It comes across more as a recitation of common Democratic Party talking points tying Dixon to DeVos (in order to make it look bad that Dixon receives support from very wealthy conservative donors).
If you want this Wikipedia to focus on political talking points, perhaps it should do the bare minimum of explaining why the DeVoses should be discussed in the context of education policy. Right now, it appears to be throwing a bunch of random ideas together and calling it a summary. Example: “Whitmer opposes the expansion of school choice alternatives. Teachers unions also support the restriction of school choice alternatives.”
A greater question, why is it significant what wealthy donor supports which candidate? Why isn’t Wikipedia discuss the tens of millions of dollars from wealthy donors for Whitmer? Maybe because all major US politicians receive donations from affluent people and it’s by and large irrelevant to their basic biography? 2601:400:8001:2150:4847:9E7A:4824:98F8 ( talk) 02:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
I can't believe I'm saying this but her views on the civil war deserve attention ASAP
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/27/politics/kfile-tudor-dixon-conspiracy-democrats-topple-america/index.html 2602:306:BC74:6240:7C92:840B:9E23:7A32 ( talk) 03:19, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
The article states: "In a June 2020 episode of her show, Dixon invoked a conspiracy theory that the COVID-19 pandemic was part of a plot that Democrats have planned for decades in order to topple the United States."
This sentence clearly implies that Dixon believes the COVID-19 virus was created by the Democratic Party, a la the Chinese lab leak theory. That is totally false. Dixon was stating that the Democratic Party was exploiting the COVID-19 pandemic to undermine the country and promote their agenda, which according to Dixon's statement in the video would result in the decline of the United States.
It is extraordinarily different for a politician to claim that their opponents policies would result in the decline or collapse of the modern U.S. (see Joe Biden claiming the Georgia voting bill would establish the second coming of Jim Crow), and claiming that a medically identifiable virus was created and spread by the opposition, which is would be a wild conspiracy theorist akin to QAnon. Notably, the CNN source cited by this article itself quotes Dixon (unlike Wikipedia) and further explains that Dixon stated "Democrats were using this moment to 'topple' the US."
Please see the video yourself: https://www.facebook.com/RealAmericasVoice/videos/1392098987648654/?extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C&mibextid=6IxyOt&ref=sharing. It is simply not a fair reading to imply that the "COVID-19 pandemic" was created by the Democratic Party. She was arguing that the reaction to the COVID-19 pandemic was part of a decades-long plot. That is very, very different. She never stated or implied that the virus itself was created by or a plot of the Democratic Party.
The article as written is misleading to readers. To the extent Wikipedia wishes to add every comment that can potentially damage conservative politicians onto their pages, this article should instead state that Dixon asserted the Democratic Party used the "COVID-19 lockdowns" and "the protests of 2020" as part of their "plot" to "fundamentally change the United States." Quote the original source, not a summary of a summary published by CNN. 24.127.33.121 ( talk) 16:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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LOOK, YOU NEED A BETTER IMAGE FOR HER. THERE ARE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL IMAGES OF HER, YET YOU PICKED THIS IMAGE??? AY YO CMON, MAN. LOOK! OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE HER BEAUTY!!! 2606:69C0:5120:3104:F03E:7D9A:5090:B788 ( talk) 01:36, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
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This article seems to be, and probably was, written by a staffer for the other candidate. It reads like a list of talking points from the other candidate, not a neutral biography. For one, the only stances on issues listed relate to controversial topics such as the 2020 election and abortion. What about education? Fiscal policy? Taxes? Infrastructure? Wikipedia has gone so far from what it used to be. I’m not going to criticize without offering some ideas to make it more neutral, so here’s a few. List some other issues and descriptions of positions that aren’t attack vectors from the other candidate, such as those previously listed. Use one the many photo’s that are licensed that aren’t the worst possible one you could find. This article is way too biased, just make it neutral. It reads like the script for an attack ad. This article should be unlocked given that whoever is currently in charge of it wants it to be that way. 2601:40A:8101:F400:9DFF:5937:8016:612 ( talk) 05:44, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
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The birthplace of Tudor Dixon needs to be corrected. She was not born in Muskegon, Michigan. She was born and raised in Illinois. Here is a USA Today article as a source: https://news.yahoo.com/tudor-dixon-4-things-know-113407992.html. Thank you. 174.249.212.4 ( talk) 18:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC) 174.249.212.4 ( talk) 18:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
Also, this article needs to be more neutral. It is far too biased and hostile. 174.249.212.4 ( talk) 18:14, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
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Tudor Dixon was born in Illinois not Muskegon Michigan. 2600:6C4A:4A7F:F0DE:955B:8E9D:944E:B97 ( talk) 03:16, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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This article is completely biased, even those siding with her can agree. I suspect this was written solely by a political enemy. This article should just state helpful facts rather than attempt to degrade. Keeping this semi-locked does not benefit anyone, and proves it difficult to fix biased errors. Superiorpsyche ( talk) 14:42, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
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Remove Clearly partisan comments on political candidates page in the case remove the sentence about Dixon supporting conspiracy theories and the comment inserted under abortion "without explanation" both 'sources' are highly partisan and have little to no evidence in their articles. This can sway an election and may have already, which is probably the intent. labeling something a consipracy just because the right believes it and the left doesn't is the begining of fascism. even if it is an actual conspiracy theory it also fall under free speech. Politics should be neutral on information sites. Lionsarenotsafe ( talk) 15:28, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
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(talk) 22:14, 18 October 2022 (UTC)Under Early life and education 2000 isn't possessive. The apostrophe needs to be removed, as "2000s". — Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.32.126.32 ( talk) 04:31, 24 September 2022 (UTC)
This is not a fair and objective Wikipedia page, and a demonstration how left of center partisans gain control of otherwise “objective sources.”
Why is she accused of COVID disinformation on the third sentence of the page? That’s preposterous. Is the third line in Gretchen Whitmer’s Wikipedia that she spread misinformation about the need to send the elderly to nursing homes, the need for aggressive shutdowns, and the support for long periods of remote school? How about her misinformation about line 5 having any material impact on global temperatures? How about the disinformation that Michigan will revert to a total abortion ban when the Michigan Supreme Court is very liberal?
Politicians can have unpopular and disagreeable positions and policies. Many times they are not factually supported or turn out wrong. It is wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia to make contested and inflammatory accusations of a major candidate in a initial bio section of the page, reserved primarily for basic and fundamental facts about the person’s identity. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that partisan democrats edit Wikipedia and then lock it for editing. These obviously political statements should be removed or placed in a section later in the article. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 12:46, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Please place a normal, accepted photo akin to a neutral news source as her bio photo. The photo chosen is obviously poor quality: it’s zoomed it, granular, and the candidate does not appear as though she is ready or expecting a photograph to be taken and used. She isn’t smiling and making an odd, apprehensive face. If the photo is cut from a longer video, that is even worse. Why was this photo, with this facial expression, cut from a video?
Feel free to look up any reasonable, non-partisan news source and take a reasonable photo of her. This otherwise demonstrates a remarkable lake of taste and fairness. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 13:01, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
Photo 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 13:03, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
This article is clearly politically biased. One possible way to amend this is by adding that Dixon opposes the school and societal lockdowns Gretchen Whitmer imposed during COVID. In addition, this article should discuss crime, which is a major issue. Dixon supports enhanced funding and involvement for police to address crime in the state.
In addition, education policy is not just ESAs. Dixon supports school choice and the ability of students to attend charters. This should be mentioned if the article is also going to be talking in detail about Dixon’s position on sexually explicit material for third graders. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 13:23, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
This is not a fair and objective Wikipedia page, and a demonstration how left of center partisans gain control of otherwise “objective sources.”
Why is she accused of COVID disinformation on the third sentence of the page? That’s preposterous. Is the third line in Gretchen Whitmer’s Wikipedia that she spread misinformation about the need to send the elderly to nursing homes, the need for aggressive shutdowns, and the support for long periods of remote school? How about her misinformation about line 5 having any material impact on global temperatures? How about the disinformation that Michigan will revert to a total abortion ban when the Michigan Supreme Court is very liberal?
Politicians can have unpopular and disagreeable positions and policies. Many times they are not factually supported or turn out wrong. It is wholly inappropriate for Wikipedia to make contested and inflammatory accusations of a major candidate in a initial bio section of the page, reserved primarily for basic and fundamental facts about the person’s identity. But I guess I shouldn’t be surprised that partisan democrats edit Wikipedia and then lock it for editing. These obviously political statements should be removed or placed in a section later in the article. 2601:400:8001:2150:E1F8:1EC0:5DCC:B153 ( talk) 12:51, 26 October 2022 (UTC)
The sentence "She has promoted misinformation about topics such as COVID-19 and the 2020 presidential election" in the lede is WP:UNDUE. It's not a good reflection of the weight given to this content in the body, relative to other content in the body. Please gain WP:CONSENSUS before re-adding. Marquardtika ( talk) 20:34, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
The article states that Dixon would support barring teachers from “talking” about sexual identity. Yet the article cited paraphrases the bill without citation to the language.
Wikipedia should not be misleading people on the meaning of legal language promoted by serious candidates for public office. The source cited notes that Dixon was reintroducing the sexual identity bill from Florida. But that bill does not prohibit “talking” about sexuality, it prohibits lecturing, teaching, or having curriculum that is not “age appropriate.” It is totally misleading to imply the bill in Florida prohibits talking about homosexuality in any way, in any circumstance, just advancing it as part of classroom instruction for kindergarteners to third graders.
Someone who can fairly interpret and read legal language should confirm this assertion, which is bare citation from a local news source paraphrasing a highly politicized topic. 2601:400:8001:2150:A58D:EDE0:B9AF:8265 ( talk) 02:14, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
Why does this page out of nowhere mention the DeVoses also support Dixon’s positions on school choice? It is very disjointed and not well explained. It comes across more as a recitation of common Democratic Party talking points tying Dixon to DeVos (in order to make it look bad that Dixon receives support from very wealthy conservative donors).
If you want this Wikipedia to focus on political talking points, perhaps it should do the bare minimum of explaining why the DeVoses should be discussed in the context of education policy. Right now, it appears to be throwing a bunch of random ideas together and calling it a summary. Example: “Whitmer opposes the expansion of school choice alternatives. Teachers unions also support the restriction of school choice alternatives.”
A greater question, why is it significant what wealthy donor supports which candidate? Why isn’t Wikipedia discuss the tens of millions of dollars from wealthy donors for Whitmer? Maybe because all major US politicians receive donations from affluent people and it’s by and large irrelevant to their basic biography? 2601:400:8001:2150:4847:9E7A:4824:98F8 ( talk) 02:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
I can't believe I'm saying this but her views on the civil war deserve attention ASAP
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/27/politics/kfile-tudor-dixon-conspiracy-democrats-topple-america/index.html 2602:306:BC74:6240:7C92:840B:9E23:7A32 ( talk) 03:19, 28 October 2022 (UTC)
The article states: "In a June 2020 episode of her show, Dixon invoked a conspiracy theory that the COVID-19 pandemic was part of a plot that Democrats have planned for decades in order to topple the United States."
This sentence clearly implies that Dixon believes the COVID-19 virus was created by the Democratic Party, a la the Chinese lab leak theory. That is totally false. Dixon was stating that the Democratic Party was exploiting the COVID-19 pandemic to undermine the country and promote their agenda, which according to Dixon's statement in the video would result in the decline of the United States.
It is extraordinarily different for a politician to claim that their opponents policies would result in the decline or collapse of the modern U.S. (see Joe Biden claiming the Georgia voting bill would establish the second coming of Jim Crow), and claiming that a medically identifiable virus was created and spread by the opposition, which is would be a wild conspiracy theorist akin to QAnon. Notably, the CNN source cited by this article itself quotes Dixon (unlike Wikipedia) and further explains that Dixon stated "Democrats were using this moment to 'topple' the US."
Please see the video yourself: https://www.facebook.com/RealAmericasVoice/videos/1392098987648654/?extid=CL-UNK-UNK-UNK-IOS_GK0T-GK1C&mibextid=6IxyOt&ref=sharing. It is simply not a fair reading to imply that the "COVID-19 pandemic" was created by the Democratic Party. She was arguing that the reaction to the COVID-19 pandemic was part of a decades-long plot. That is very, very different. She never stated or implied that the virus itself was created by or a plot of the Democratic Party.
The article as written is misleading to readers. To the extent Wikipedia wishes to add every comment that can potentially damage conservative politicians onto their pages, this article should instead state that Dixon asserted the Democratic Party used the "COVID-19 lockdowns" and "the protests of 2020" as part of their "plot" to "fundamentally change the United States." Quote the original source, not a summary of a summary published by CNN. 24.127.33.121 ( talk) 16:51, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
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LOOK, YOU NEED A BETTER IMAGE FOR HER. THERE ARE SO MANY BEAUTIFUL IMAGES OF HER, YET YOU PICKED THIS IMAGE??? AY YO CMON, MAN. LOOK! OPEN YOUR EYES AND SEE HER BEAUTY!!! 2606:69C0:5120:3104:F03E:7D9A:5090:B788 ( talk) 01:36, 9 November 2022 (UTC)