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Isn't "true-believer syndrome" essentially the very same thing as fanaticism? .`^) Paine diss`cuss (^`. 21:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be problems with this section. The sourced lead states True-believer syndrome refers to persons who continued to believe in a paranormal event or phenomenon even after it had been proven to have been staged. The 419 scam refers specifically not to a paranormal event or phenomenon, and the cited source doesn't mention that a True-believer continues to believe after it had been proven to be a scam. There is simply no source in this article that equates the two, so how can it be stated without WP:SYNTH as an example of True-believer syndrome? Additionally the source for this section is a self published website [1] from an author that wrote a self published novel "Brian Wizard's Nigerian 419 scam" about the scam. [2] [3]. Ward20 ( talk) 13:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
In regards to paranormal events, whilst the scam iteslf is indeed not supernatural, it can hardly be denied that this bears some very strong simliarities to tbs, and tbs is not a well-defined psychiatric disorder. The effect is undeniably similar. The section may definitely needs a rewording, which I am prepared to do, and better sources but it definitely belongs in this section. 122.106.160.244 ( talk) 09:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
As with Orthorexia nervosa this term has been proposed as a diagnose or illness, however it has not been embraced by the mainstream therapeutic community as such. I'm sure there are other, comparable terms for which we have articles, so I'm proposing the creation of a category for these non-approved disease labels. __ meco ( talk) 08:24, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Why is the Infobox Paranormal Term used for this article? There is nothing paranormal about it at all... -- OpenFuture ( talk) 18:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
This is really just a colloquial term for processes such as cognitive dissonance. I think we should merge this article into those articles. -- Havermayer ( talk) 14:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
If the True-believer syndrome has anything to do with the end of the world predictions by Harold Camping, then please expand this section, as otherwise the reader cannot se any connection to the syndrome. 2A03:EC00:B182:33BD:E9E4:E682:C57:45D3 ( talk) 09:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I've seen a few sources (such as this one) explicitly use the term in reference to QAnon. Perhaps that should be mentioned here? Partofthemachine ( talk) 22:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
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Isn't "true-believer syndrome" essentially the very same thing as fanaticism? .`^) Paine diss`cuss (^`. 21:16, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
There seems to be problems with this section. The sourced lead states True-believer syndrome refers to persons who continued to believe in a paranormal event or phenomenon even after it had been proven to have been staged. The 419 scam refers specifically not to a paranormal event or phenomenon, and the cited source doesn't mention that a True-believer continues to believe after it had been proven to be a scam. There is simply no source in this article that equates the two, so how can it be stated without WP:SYNTH as an example of True-believer syndrome? Additionally the source for this section is a self published website [1] from an author that wrote a self published novel "Brian Wizard's Nigerian 419 scam" about the scam. [2] [3]. Ward20 ( talk) 13:29, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
In regards to paranormal events, whilst the scam iteslf is indeed not supernatural, it can hardly be denied that this bears some very strong simliarities to tbs, and tbs is not a well-defined psychiatric disorder. The effect is undeniably similar. The section may definitely needs a rewording, which I am prepared to do, and better sources but it definitely belongs in this section. 122.106.160.244 ( talk) 09:15, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
As with Orthorexia nervosa this term has been proposed as a diagnose or illness, however it has not been embraced by the mainstream therapeutic community as such. I'm sure there are other, comparable terms for which we have articles, so I'm proposing the creation of a category for these non-approved disease labels. __ meco ( talk) 08:24, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
Why is the Infobox Paranormal Term used for this article? There is nothing paranormal about it at all... -- OpenFuture ( talk) 18:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
This is really just a colloquial term for processes such as cognitive dissonance. I think we should merge this article into those articles. -- Havermayer ( talk) 14:57, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
If the True-believer syndrome has anything to do with the end of the world predictions by Harold Camping, then please expand this section, as otherwise the reader cannot se any connection to the syndrome. 2A03:EC00:B182:33BD:E9E4:E682:C57:45D3 ( talk) 09:16, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
I've seen a few sources (such as this one) explicitly use the term in reference to QAnon. Perhaps that should be mentioned here? Partofthemachine ( talk) 22:53, 18 December 2022 (UTC)