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The horizontal list in this article is currently using images as bullet points, which does not work with my screen reader. I attempted to change this to use actual bullet points from list markup, using two different methods, but both attempts were reverted. any suggestions on how we can fix the problem? Frietjes ( talk) 14:15, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
<li>...</li>
marking each item as being a member of a list. I suppose you could include both list markup and images, but I agree that the simplest solution is to just use list markup. I am pinging Graham, since I believe he uses a screen reader as well.
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 17:31, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
<li>...</li>
directly. Thanks!
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 18:12, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<ul>
, so either use the wiki * for doing lists or {{
Bulleted list}}. If using {{
Bulleted list}}, keep in mind other
WP:Accessibility issues.|item_style=display:inline
with the {{
bulleted list}}, but that removes the bullets as well, so some additional hacks would be necessary (which is why we have hlist :)). Thanks!
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 19:18, 9 August 2014 (UTC).hlist li:after {content: " * ";}
for example would change what you saw to an asterisk.<li>...</li>
so that they can navigate backward and forward item-by-item and hear the text read out item-by-item as they navigate. Only by supplying the proper HTML list markup can we enable them to do that. Lists may be created using the usual wikimarkup (*), or by using templates for a horizontal or vertical list. Trying to "cook up" what you think looks like a list is doomed to failure from an accessibility point of view, as we need to cater for those who cannot see what you have devised.Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, do we need this list? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:12, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Ping @ User:Frietjes, User talk:Plastikspork, User:Graham87, User:RexxS, User:Bgwhite, User:Pigsonthewing, User:Staszek Lem, User:Hoops gza. Please contribute to our final decision about this controversial spelling in triple-translation from Cyrillic. I'd like to know what the outcome is going to be. – In the old days, names in Cyrillic used to be widely transliterated into different alphabets. We don't do that anymore. Thank you all in advance, Poeticbent talk 16:03, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
The Soviet P.O.W.s were starving, not in any camps, in fields, without water. [2] Xx236 ( talk) 14:29, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Globocnik prevailed upon Himmler to recruit non-Polish auxiliaries from the Soviet border regions. The key person on Globocnik's Operation Reinhard staff for this task was Karl Streibel. He and his men visited the POW camps and recruited... "volunteers" (Hilfswillige, or Hiwis) who were screened on the basis of their anti-Communist (and hence almost invariably anti-Semitic) sentiments, offered an escape from probable starvation, and promised that they would not be used in combat against the Soviet army. These "volunteers" were taken to the SS camp at Trawniki for training. Under German SS officers and ethnic German noncommissioned officers, they were formed into units on the basis of nationality. Alongside the Order Police, they constituted the second major manpower pool from which Globocnik would form his private armies for the ghetto-clearing campaign.[p.52]
[..]
What is wrong with the German portrayals is a multifaceted distortion in perspective. The policemen[who testified in postwar trials]
were all but silent about Polish help to Jews and German punishment for such help... Nor was any note made of the fact that large units of murderous auxiliaries – the notorious Hiwis – were not recruited from the Polish population, in stark contrast to other nationalities in pervasively anti-Semitic eastern Europe.[p.158]
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Petro Mirchuk was prominent Ukrainian nationalist, and, as a very competent propagandist, he used given political and historical situation during the Cold War to fulfill his goals of making Ukraine independent from USSR and its system. Due to that fact, his statement, mentioned in the article, should be approached with caution, and double checked with other credible sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.225.1 ( talk) 15:28, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
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The horizontal list in this article is currently using images as bullet points, which does not work with my screen reader. I attempted to change this to use actual bullet points from list markup, using two different methods, but both attempts were reverted. any suggestions on how we can fix the problem? Frietjes ( talk) 14:15, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
<li>...</li>
marking each item as being a member of a list. I suppose you could include both list markup and images, but I agree that the simplest solution is to just use list markup. I am pinging Graham, since I believe he uses a screen reader as well.
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 17:31, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
<li>...</li>
directly. Thanks!
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 18:12, 9 August 2014 (UTC)<ul>
, so either use the wiki * for doing lists or {{
Bulleted list}}. If using {{
Bulleted list}}, keep in mind other
WP:Accessibility issues.|item_style=display:inline
with the {{
bulleted list}}, but that removes the bullets as well, so some additional hacks would be necessary (which is why we have hlist :)). Thanks!
Plastikspork
―Œ(talk) 19:18, 9 August 2014 (UTC).hlist li:after {content: " * ";}
for example would change what you saw to an asterisk.<li>...</li>
so that they can navigate backward and forward item-by-item and hear the text read out item-by-item as they navigate. Only by supplying the proper HTML list markup can we enable them to do that. Lists may be created using the usual wikimarkup (*), or by using templates for a horizontal or vertical list. Trying to "cook up" what you think looks like a list is doomed to failure from an accessibility point of view, as we need to cater for those who cannot see what you have devised.Per WP:NOTDIRECTORY, do we need this list? Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:12, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
Ping @ User:Frietjes, User talk:Plastikspork, User:Graham87, User:RexxS, User:Bgwhite, User:Pigsonthewing, User:Staszek Lem, User:Hoops gza. Please contribute to our final decision about this controversial spelling in triple-translation from Cyrillic. I'd like to know what the outcome is going to be. – In the old days, names in Cyrillic used to be widely transliterated into different alphabets. We don't do that anymore. Thank you all in advance, Poeticbent talk 16:03, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
The Soviet P.O.W.s were starving, not in any camps, in fields, without water. [2] Xx236 ( talk) 14:29, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
Globocnik prevailed upon Himmler to recruit non-Polish auxiliaries from the Soviet border regions. The key person on Globocnik's Operation Reinhard staff for this task was Karl Streibel. He and his men visited the POW camps and recruited... "volunteers" (Hilfswillige, or Hiwis) who were screened on the basis of their anti-Communist (and hence almost invariably anti-Semitic) sentiments, offered an escape from probable starvation, and promised that they would not be used in combat against the Soviet army. These "volunteers" were taken to the SS camp at Trawniki for training. Under German SS officers and ethnic German noncommissioned officers, they were formed into units on the basis of nationality. Alongside the Order Police, they constituted the second major manpower pool from which Globocnik would form his private armies for the ghetto-clearing campaign.[p.52]
[..]
What is wrong with the German portrayals is a multifaceted distortion in perspective. The policemen[who testified in postwar trials]
were all but silent about Polish help to Jews and German punishment for such help... Nor was any note made of the fact that large units of murderous auxiliaries – the notorious Hiwis – were not recruited from the Polish population, in stark contrast to other nationalities in pervasively anti-Semitic eastern Europe.[p.158]
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Petro Mirchuk was prominent Ukrainian nationalist, and, as a very competent propagandist, he used given political and historical situation during the Cold War to fulfill his goals of making Ukraine independent from USSR and its system. Due to that fact, his statement, mentioned in the article, should be approached with caution, and double checked with other credible sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.245.225.1 ( talk) 15:28, 13 February 2023 (UTC)