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According to an article in this website:
https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk
the British Psychological Society defines transpersonal psychology as "the study of the psychology of spirituality and of those areas of the mind that seek higher meanings, that move beyond the individual ego to access enhanced wisdom, creativity, unconditional love and
compassion". The article in the S.P.R. encyclopedia which offers this definition is on Spirit Release Therapy. If anyone thinks adding this definition to the article would improve it (after all, it does come from the British Psychological Society, s/he is welcome to add it somewhere. YTKJ ( talk) 18:59, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
Even proponents of this idea must acknowledge that transpersonal psychology is fairly fringe. However, the article as it stands does not acknowledge that. I have therefore tagged the article in the hopes that we can achieve a closer approach to WP:NPOV and not do the reader the disservice of making it appear this idea has received WP:MAINSTREAM acceptance. All help would be appreciated. jps ( talk) 12:54, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Best regards!-- Hawol ( talk) 19:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
This is a PubMed Indexed source: J Relig Health. 2019 Dec;58(6):2195. doi: 10.1007/s10943-019-00882-y. PMID: 31309440. However, I'm not gonna push for the inclusion of this source, or any other sources, because, as I said, the context for the sources is mostly gone, and the article needs new text in order to establish background for the possible inclusion of these sources. Best regards! Hawol ( talk) 13:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
It is now suggested by Wikipedia-editors that Transpersonal psychology is a fringe-discipline, and that this was not clearly elucidated in the article prior to january 18, 2023. The article is now re-edited, by other editors, with this elucidation in mind, keeping most of the clarifications that were already in place. Although I can can appreciate the mid-january edit based on WP-policies and guidelines posted to this Talk (see above), I must note, in all fairness, that except for a few reformulations, no new text is contributed! Including the two sources noting the fringe-status of TP (Hilgard and Adams), the mid-january edit keeps most of the skeptical and critical considerations of transpersonal psychology, even removing a few of them (Alexander, Gray and Schneider). I am familiar with these skeptical and critical sources, as I contributed most of them in the years prior to the latest re-edit.
However, if Transpersonal psychology is now going to be conceptualized and elucidated as a fringe discipline in the mind of the public, which I understand is the consensus of the mid-january revisions, then it would be preferable that this categorization was supported by more sources than the few already in place. As I understand it, the new sources have to be first-rate. I therefore welcome new contributions that can elaborate upon the fringe-status of Transpersonal psychology and its relationship to the world of mainstream psychology. Best regards! -- Hawol ( talk) 17:47, 28 January 2023 (UTC)-- Hawol ( talk) 01:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
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I’m not sure how this sentence (near the top of the article) concerning the beginnings of transpersonal psychology squares with some earlier, and I'd think separate, roots for it than what we think of as “the counterculture of the 1960s.”
Both humanistic and transpersonal psychology have been associated with the Human Potential Movement, which revolves around alternative therapies and philosophies that grew out of the counter-culture of the 1960s at places such as Esalen, California.
Gerald Heard was lecturing in the mid 1950s concerning non-sectarian spiritual human potentials (Myron Stolaroff was one listener who became influential a few years later). By 1960 Aldous Huxley was giving lectures at colleges (including MIT) about what he termed “human potentialities.” But I don’t think either of them (or Stolaroff, for that matter) knew or believed he was initiating a counter culture. Both Heard and Huxley were influential with the founders of Esalen. Pretty much the same story with the Czech psychiatrist Stanislav Grof, who did not emerge from the American counterculture.
By "associating" transpersonal psychology with the counterculture, is there an intention to portray it as something on the fringe of the field of psychology? Joel Russ ( talk) 20:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
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According to an article in this website:
https://psi-encyclopedia.spr.ac.uk
the British Psychological Society defines transpersonal psychology as "the study of the psychology of spirituality and of those areas of the mind that seek higher meanings, that move beyond the individual ego to access enhanced wisdom, creativity, unconditional love and
compassion". The article in the S.P.R. encyclopedia which offers this definition is on Spirit Release Therapy. If anyone thinks adding this definition to the article would improve it (after all, it does come from the British Psychological Society, s/he is welcome to add it somewhere. YTKJ ( talk) 18:59, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
Even proponents of this idea must acknowledge that transpersonal psychology is fairly fringe. However, the article as it stands does not acknowledge that. I have therefore tagged the article in the hopes that we can achieve a closer approach to WP:NPOV and not do the reader the disservice of making it appear this idea has received WP:MAINSTREAM acceptance. All help would be appreciated. jps ( talk) 12:54, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
Best regards!-- Hawol ( talk) 19:47, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
This is a PubMed Indexed source: J Relig Health. 2019 Dec;58(6):2195. doi: 10.1007/s10943-019-00882-y. PMID: 31309440. However, I'm not gonna push for the inclusion of this source, or any other sources, because, as I said, the context for the sources is mostly gone, and the article needs new text in order to establish background for the possible inclusion of these sources. Best regards! Hawol ( talk) 13:59, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
It is now suggested by Wikipedia-editors that Transpersonal psychology is a fringe-discipline, and that this was not clearly elucidated in the article prior to january 18, 2023. The article is now re-edited, by other editors, with this elucidation in mind, keeping most of the clarifications that were already in place. Although I can can appreciate the mid-january edit based on WP-policies and guidelines posted to this Talk (see above), I must note, in all fairness, that except for a few reformulations, no new text is contributed! Including the two sources noting the fringe-status of TP (Hilgard and Adams), the mid-january edit keeps most of the skeptical and critical considerations of transpersonal psychology, even removing a few of them (Alexander, Gray and Schneider). I am familiar with these skeptical and critical sources, as I contributed most of them in the years prior to the latest re-edit.
However, if Transpersonal psychology is now going to be conceptualized and elucidated as a fringe discipline in the mind of the public, which I understand is the consensus of the mid-january revisions, then it would be preferable that this categorization was supported by more sources than the few already in place. As I understand it, the new sources have to be first-rate. I therefore welcome new contributions that can elaborate upon the fringe-status of Transpersonal psychology and its relationship to the world of mainstream psychology. Best regards! -- Hawol ( talk) 17:47, 28 January 2023 (UTC)-- Hawol ( talk) 01:16, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
This article is currently the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 7 May 2024 and 12 August 2024. Further details are available
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Zclayt,
Sarahmoran683,
Dennyslimon10,
Lmn23.
— Assignment last updated by Rahneli ( talk) 23:53, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
I’m not sure how this sentence (near the top of the article) concerning the beginnings of transpersonal psychology squares with some earlier, and I'd think separate, roots for it than what we think of as “the counterculture of the 1960s.”
Both humanistic and transpersonal psychology have been associated with the Human Potential Movement, which revolves around alternative therapies and philosophies that grew out of the counter-culture of the 1960s at places such as Esalen, California.
Gerald Heard was lecturing in the mid 1950s concerning non-sectarian spiritual human potentials (Myron Stolaroff was one listener who became influential a few years later). By 1960 Aldous Huxley was giving lectures at colleges (including MIT) about what he termed “human potentialities.” But I don’t think either of them (or Stolaroff, for that matter) knew or believed he was initiating a counter culture. Both Heard and Huxley were influential with the founders of Esalen. Pretty much the same story with the Czech psychiatrist Stanislav Grof, who did not emerge from the American counterculture.
By "associating" transpersonal psychology with the counterculture, is there an intention to portray it as something on the fringe of the field of psychology? Joel Russ ( talk) 20:52, 31 May 2024 (UTC)