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Recent move of article to Transgenderism (social movement)
Rebecca, I think the current content of the
Transgenderism (social movement) article is notable and based on a reliable source. The article not only deserves to exist but should be expanded. However, if you disagree, you should propose that we merge it with some other article rather than simply redirect it. --
Loremaster (
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17:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I have no particular objection to it being a disambiguation page, but I continue to object to the current wording of the article. There is no such thing as a "transgenderism movement". It doesn't exist, and it can't be backed up in multiple reliable sources. That one person in 1995 proposed it doesn't make that notable. I redirect it to
transgender because that's the only appropriate action; what the article is referring to is a transgender rights movement - just one that is not known as "transgenderism". This is as ridiculous as writing a
homosexualism article and claiming it's some new offshoot of the gay rights movement; and precisely why that link redirects to
homosexuality.
Rebecca (
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19:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I agree with Rebecca here. The article even says "For many in the transgender - or "trans" - movement..." What's the difference between the "transgenderism movement" and the transgender rights movement? I don't think one book warrants an encyclopedia entry about a movement. If there are more sources confirming that a "transgenderism movement" exists, than it makes sense to have it, otherwise, I think it should redirect to transgender.
Chocolateluvr88 (
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19:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I think you had suggested something to this effect earlier, but how about if the 2 articles are merged so that there's a "Transgender Rights Movement" section within Transgender?
Chocolateluvr88 (
talk)
20:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I don't really know about how a merge works. I agree that it should not be called "transgenderism," it should be called "transgender rights movement". I don't think that what is included under
LGBT social movements really covers the idea of a transgender rights movement, separate from the LGBT movement as a whole. (It mentions Leslie Feinberg, but there isn't much). Perhaps another option is a "Transgender rights movement" section within
LGBT social movements. Also, I would think
Transgender should include a couple sentences and a link to wherever the Transgender rights movement is discussed.
Chocolateluvr88 (
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21:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I agree. It should noted somewhere that Rothblatt (who is a notable person) made the suggestion that the transgender rights movement should be called “transngenderism” despite the fact that her suggestion never gained currency. --
Loremaster (
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23:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply
This redirect is of interest to WikiProject LGBT studies, which tries to ensure comprehensive and factual coverage of all
LGBT-related issues on Wikipedia. For more information, or to get involved, please visit the
project page or contribute to the
discussion.LGBT studiesWikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studiesTemplate:WikiProject LGBT studiesLGBT articles
Recent move of article to Transgenderism (social movement)
Rebecca, I think the current content of the
Transgenderism (social movement) article is notable and based on a reliable source. The article not only deserves to exist but should be expanded. However, if you disagree, you should propose that we merge it with some other article rather than simply redirect it. --
Loremaster (
talk)
17:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I have no particular objection to it being a disambiguation page, but I continue to object to the current wording of the article. There is no such thing as a "transgenderism movement". It doesn't exist, and it can't be backed up in multiple reliable sources. That one person in 1995 proposed it doesn't make that notable. I redirect it to
transgender because that's the only appropriate action; what the article is referring to is a transgender rights movement - just one that is not known as "transgenderism". This is as ridiculous as writing a
homosexualism article and claiming it's some new offshoot of the gay rights movement; and precisely why that link redirects to
homosexuality.
Rebecca (
talk)
19:15, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I agree with Rebecca here. The article even says "For many in the transgender - or "trans" - movement..." What's the difference between the "transgenderism movement" and the transgender rights movement? I don't think one book warrants an encyclopedia entry about a movement. If there are more sources confirming that a "transgenderism movement" exists, than it makes sense to have it, otherwise, I think it should redirect to transgender.
Chocolateluvr88 (
talk)
19:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I think you had suggested something to this effect earlier, but how about if the 2 articles are merged so that there's a "Transgender Rights Movement" section within Transgender?
Chocolateluvr88 (
talk)
20:51, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I don't really know about how a merge works. I agree that it should not be called "transgenderism," it should be called "transgender rights movement". I don't think that what is included under
LGBT social movements really covers the idea of a transgender rights movement, separate from the LGBT movement as a whole. (It mentions Leslie Feinberg, but there isn't much). Perhaps another option is a "Transgender rights movement" section within
LGBT social movements. Also, I would think
Transgender should include a couple sentences and a link to wherever the Transgender rights movement is discussed.
Chocolateluvr88 (
talk)
21:52, 15 July 2009 (UTC)reply
I agree. It should noted somewhere that Rothblatt (who is a notable person) made the suggestion that the transgender rights movement should be called “transngenderism” despite the fact that her suggestion never gained currency. --
Loremaster (
talk)
23:13, 5 March 2010 (UTC)reply