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Instead of merging into Greta Thunberg (or maybe Malizia II?, there are also two other alternatives.
I also ask for a Wikimedia Commons map including all her travels as an activist.
J 1982 ( talk) 18:45, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Regarding the notability tag on this article, it says the following under criterion 2 of Wikipedia:Notability (events) (emphasis as per the original):
Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources, especially if also re-analyzed afterwards (as described below).
There's been ongoing commentary by notable media around the world during the voyage, and much has been made of the fact that crew members are flying to and from America to enable this voyage, i.e. re-analysing it. That suggests that criterion 2 is met and I therefore propose to remove the notability tag. Schwede 66 01:12, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
I deleted the tag. Pam added (A) Merge to tag and (B) Notability tag. The Merge discussion is at Talk:Greta Thunberg. The notability claims are already part of that thread. This tag was redundant. In addition, it's pretty clearly inappropriate in light of sources and coverage and the barely 24 hour life of this article. See Template:Notability#Removing_this_tag. NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 01:53, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
The article has been tagged as follows:
Some of this information has been added while some of it my not be appropriate, for example "impact/lessons/relation to message and society's need to travel in general". I think that information may go a little beyond the scope of this article. I have removed the tag. Gandydancer ( talk) 14:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
The teen set sail two weeks ago with a small group, including her father, Svante Thunberg, and co-skippers Pierre Casiraghi––grandson of Rainier III, Prince of Monaco and Grace Kelly––and professional sailor Boris Herrmann, who has travelled around the world three times and made “countless” journeys across the Atlantic, according to Herrmann’s website.
There were four bunks. Wasn't there another crew member as well, with two of them sharing a bunk? I see
four people here besides her.
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There is also no mention of the crew that were flown in, nullifying her non-emissions claim (Dark) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:1817:A100:ADAF:BB63:5901:67AE ( talk) 17:06, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello. I suggest to add a few pictures to the article. Here are two suggestions: Thanks in advance to add them (or others) at the top of the article. Hadrienne Proniser ( talk) 19:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC).
Currently the lead has the following unsourced sentence "The trip was announced as a carbon neutral transatlantic crossing serving as a demonstration of her declared beliefs of the importance of reducing emissions.".
However, according to the boat owner's website the Malizia II has "...a 377kg combustion engine system but there are plans in place to upgrade this to an environmentally friendly electric motor with batteries charged from solar to enable Boris to complete the race without burning fossil fuels.". See this page: [1]
Did the yacht make that journey without using it's engines. I'd be very surprised if it did.
No amount of tree planting or whatever is going to change the fact that marine engines burn a lot of fuel.
I don't think we should be simply parroting whatever vague and ambiguous claims are made by the media. How about keeping things encyclopedic and fact based? Danrok ( talk) 17:01, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi, we should include the land portion of Thunberg's voyage, and how she travelled from place to place, if this information is available. For example, she was recently in Alberta, Canada. 2607:FEA8:1DDF:FEE1:34EC:E993:CDA6:D3F6 ( talk) 11:43, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Article says ". . . travel overland to attend the United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP25) in Santiago, Chile, . . ." but technically one can't yet (or at least not very handily) cross the Darién Gap between Panama and Colombia. Casey ( talk) 20:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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diablo 2 85.93.59.106 ( talk) 21:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
This page has some problems, seems to have been abandoned and I am not convinced it should exist even though I have just attempted to upgrade it:
PamD check the date of whatever source we use about GT's position on flying. We can't say, in WIKIVOICE, that she "refuses" (present tense) by citing an article from God-knows-how-long-ago. We could describe the ethical stance she "had taken" using the past perfect verb form. But we can't say it in the present tense when the sources are about a historical event. NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 11:59, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
She states her position in the now-cited source as an ongoing position. If she said "I am a vegetarian" or "I am a Buddhist" we would accept that as an ongoing position unless shown otherwise. Pam D 06:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, a nice photo or two of the vessel with crew and passengers would improve the article. Any photos available? Thx, ... PeterEasthope ( talk) 18:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
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Instead of merging into Greta Thunberg (or maybe Malizia II?, there are also two other alternatives.
I also ask for a Wikimedia Commons map including all her travels as an activist.
J 1982 ( talk) 18:45, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
Regarding the notability tag on this article, it says the following under criterion 2 of Wikipedia:Notability (events) (emphasis as per the original):
Events are also very likely to be notable if they have widespread (national or international) impact and were very widely covered in diverse sources, especially if also re-analyzed afterwards (as described below).
There's been ongoing commentary by notable media around the world during the voyage, and much has been made of the fact that crew members are flying to and from America to enable this voyage, i.e. re-analysing it. That suggests that criterion 2 is met and I therefore propose to remove the notability tag. Schwede 66 01:12, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
I deleted the tag. Pam added (A) Merge to tag and (B) Notability tag. The Merge discussion is at Talk:Greta Thunberg. The notability claims are already part of that thread. This tag was redundant. In addition, it's pretty clearly inappropriate in light of sources and coverage and the barely 24 hour life of this article. See Template:Notability#Removing_this_tag. NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 01:53, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
The article has been tagged as follows:
Some of this information has been added while some of it my not be appropriate, for example "impact/lessons/relation to message and society's need to travel in general". I think that information may go a little beyond the scope of this article. I have removed the tag. Gandydancer ( talk) 14:55, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
The teen set sail two weeks ago with a small group, including her father, Svante Thunberg, and co-skippers Pierre Casiraghi––grandson of Rainier III, Prince of Monaco and Grace Kelly––and professional sailor Boris Herrmann, who has travelled around the world three times and made “countless” journeys across the Atlantic, according to Herrmann’s website.
There were four bunks. Wasn't there another crew member as well, with two of them sharing a bunk? I see
four people here besides her.
Зенитная Самоходная Установка (
talk)
13:13, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
There is also no mention of the crew that were flown in, nullifying her non-emissions claim (Dark) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:1817:A100:ADAF:BB63:5901:67AE ( talk) 17:06, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
Hello. I suggest to add a few pictures to the article. Here are two suggestions: Thanks in advance to add them (or others) at the top of the article. Hadrienne Proniser ( talk) 19:30, 16 October 2019 (UTC).
Currently the lead has the following unsourced sentence "The trip was announced as a carbon neutral transatlantic crossing serving as a demonstration of her declared beliefs of the importance of reducing emissions.".
However, according to the boat owner's website the Malizia II has "...a 377kg combustion engine system but there are plans in place to upgrade this to an environmentally friendly electric motor with batteries charged from solar to enable Boris to complete the race without burning fossil fuels.". See this page: [1]
Did the yacht make that journey without using it's engines. I'd be very surprised if it did.
No amount of tree planting or whatever is going to change the fact that marine engines burn a lot of fuel.
I don't think we should be simply parroting whatever vague and ambiguous claims are made by the media. How about keeping things encyclopedic and fact based? Danrok ( talk) 17:01, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi, we should include the land portion of Thunberg's voyage, and how she travelled from place to place, if this information is available. For example, she was recently in Alberta, Canada. 2607:FEA8:1DDF:FEE1:34EC:E993:CDA6:D3F6 ( talk) 11:43, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
Article says ". . . travel overland to attend the United Nations Climate Change Conference (COP25) in Santiago, Chile, . . ." but technically one can't yet (or at least not very handily) cross the Darién Gap between Panama and Colombia. Casey ( talk) 20:04, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
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Voyage of Greta Thunberg has been answered. Set the |answered= or |ans= parameter to no to reactivate your request. |
diablo 2 85.93.59.106 ( talk) 21:07, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
This page has some problems, seems to have been abandoned and I am not convinced it should exist even though I have just attempted to upgrade it:
PamD check the date of whatever source we use about GT's position on flying. We can't say, in WIKIVOICE, that she "refuses" (present tense) by citing an article from God-knows-how-long-ago. We could describe the ethical stance she "had taken" using the past perfect verb form. But we can't say it in the present tense when the sources are about a historical event. NewsAndEventsGuy ( talk) 11:59, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
She states her position in the now-cited source as an ongoing position. If she said "I am a vegetarian" or "I am a Buddhist" we would accept that as an ongoing position unless shown otherwise. Pam D 06:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 03:24, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
Hi, a nice photo or two of the vessel with crew and passengers would improve the article. Any photos available? Thx, ... PeterEasthope ( talk) 18:09, 12 November 2021 (UTC)