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    Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2023

    Hello, I'm writing to tell you that a mistake has been made in this article. You should change it from "A trans woman is a woman" to "A trans woman is a person who identifies as a woman" because of the following reasons:

    1. Saying this confuses the reader into thinking that a trans woman is actually a biological female. 2. This is leftist ideology newspeak.

    Back to the first point, a woman or male is determined by genetical markers in the 23rd chromosome pair which are XX and XY for female and male respectively. This is common biological knowledge and a source can be looked upon anywhere, including every encyclopedia that exists. 78.60.112.253 ( talk) 21:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC) reply

     Not done: The current wording is the result of extensive discussion, during which a great many sources were evaluated. Please see the discussion archives linked in one of the yellow boxes near the top of this page. -- Maddy from Celeste ( WAVEDASH) 21:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC) reply
    WP:DNFTT. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 11:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    We insist:
    A trans woman is not an "adult human female".
    Change it. 90.167.86.20 ( talk) 10:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    You can insist all you like, but the wording comes after careful discussion and consensus – not demands. — Czello ( music) 10:57, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    The consensus of a few doesn't make it true.
    The statement is false and contradicts the definition of "woman" - which is linked to this article. 90.167.86.20 ( talk) 11:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    Consensus building is how Wikipedia works. As you're using words like "true" and "false", I'd urge you to read WP:TRUTH. — Czello ( music) 11:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    Verify this for me:
    How a female can be a male.
    How two wiki entrances can be verified and in contradiction with each other, at the same time. 90.167.86.20 ( talk) 11:44, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    This isn't a debating forum – we go by what reliable sources say. — Czello ( music) 11:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
    No. We don't have to take this nonsense seriously at Wikipedia. Get out of here. LesbianTiamat ( talk) 02:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC) reply

    Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2024

    In the Terminology section:

    Change “(MtF. M2F)” to “(MTF or M2F)” to be consistent with the corresponding trans man article and improve grammar. I would recommend capitalizing the T in MTF as it seems to be more commonly used. Either way, it should be consistent between the two articles. 70.131.50.155 ( talk) 13:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC) reply

     Done
    Akamaikai ( talk) 03:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC) reply

    Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024

    In the last paragraph of 'Terminology' change "The term has historically been applies to people..." to "The term has historically been applied to people..." PolyCloud ( talk) 05:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

     Done. Thanks. Grayfell ( talk) 05:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply
    Page semi-protected
    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

      Semi-protected edit request on 20 November 2023

      Hello, I'm writing to tell you that a mistake has been made in this article. You should change it from "A trans woman is a woman" to "A trans woman is a person who identifies as a woman" because of the following reasons:

      1. Saying this confuses the reader into thinking that a trans woman is actually a biological female. 2. This is leftist ideology newspeak.

      Back to the first point, a woman or male is determined by genetical markers in the 23rd chromosome pair which are XX and XY for female and male respectively. This is common biological knowledge and a source can be looked upon anywhere, including every encyclopedia that exists. 78.60.112.253 ( talk) 21:44, 20 November 2023 (UTC) reply

       Not done: The current wording is the result of extensive discussion, during which a great many sources were evaluated. Please see the discussion archives linked in one of the yellow boxes near the top of this page. -- Maddy from Celeste ( WAVEDASH) 21:47, 20 November 2023 (UTC) reply
      WP:DNFTT. Isabelle Belato 🏳‍🌈 11:51, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      We insist:
      A trans woman is not an "adult human female".
      Change it. 90.167.86.20 ( talk) 10:53, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      You can insist all you like, but the wording comes after careful discussion and consensus – not demands. — Czello ( music) 10:57, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      The consensus of a few doesn't make it true.
      The statement is false and contradicts the definition of "woman" - which is linked to this article. 90.167.86.20 ( talk) 11:27, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      Consensus building is how Wikipedia works. As you're using words like "true" and "false", I'd urge you to read WP:TRUTH. — Czello ( music) 11:33, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      Verify this for me:
      How a female can be a male.
      How two wiki entrances can be verified and in contradiction with each other, at the same time. 90.167.86.20 ( talk) 11:44, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      This isn't a debating forum – we go by what reliable sources say. — Czello ( music) 11:45, 22 February 2024 (UTC) reply
      No. We don't have to take this nonsense seriously at Wikipedia. Get out of here. LesbianTiamat ( talk) 02:00, 16 February 2024 (UTC) reply

      Semi-protected edit request on 7 January 2024

      In the Terminology section:

      Change “(MtF. M2F)” to “(MTF or M2F)” to be consistent with the corresponding trans man article and improve grammar. I would recommend capitalizing the T in MTF as it seems to be more commonly used. Either way, it should be consistent between the two articles. 70.131.50.155 ( talk) 13:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC) reply

       Done
      Akamaikai ( talk) 03:31, 10 January 2024 (UTC) reply

      Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2024

      In the last paragraph of 'Terminology' change "The term has historically been applies to people..." to "The term has historically been applied to people..." PolyCloud ( talk) 05:08, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

       Done. Thanks. Grayfell ( talk) 05:26, 27 March 2024 (UTC) reply

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