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Sahaib: I cannot find any prior discussion on this. Nor is there any indication that
WP:RFCBEFORE has been exhausted; so why have you gone straight to a full-blown thirty-day formal RfC for what appears to be a small matter? --
Redrose64 🦌 (
talk)
12:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)reply
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Redrose64: this is my first RfC and I checked
MOS:CAPS and could not find anything. This is not a small matter I have created several articles about Palauan chiefs such as
Yutaka Gibbons,
Ibedul succession dispute and this article, I have changed the capitalisation of the titles in the articles back and forth which is time consuming. The main newspaper in Palau Island Times, Palauan dictionaries (see the wiktionary article Ibedul) and French Wikipedia (see
Ibedul [
fr) capitalise them in certain ways, so this topic is quite complex and it would be good to reach a consensus with more than one or two editors one way or the other.
Sahaib (
talk)
12:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)reply
See
MOS:HON. You could have asked for help at
WP:TEAHOUSE, or at
WT:ROYALTY, or asked for clarification at
WT:MOSCAPS. But even if all those failed, you should certainly have started a discussion here, waited for other people to comment and also reach deadlock before reaching for
WP:RFC. Small matter or not, RfC is a process of last resort, used when all other methods of settling a dispute have failed. --
Redrose64 🦌 (
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13:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I found this MoS which regulates this matter. Offices, titles & positions are capitalized only when followed by a person's name to form a title per
MOS:JOBTITLES. So for example in the article shall be, e.g.:
In December 2023, Ibedul (or Chief) Alexander Merep officiated a new museum in Palau.
In January 2024, president of Mongolia met with ibedul (or chief) of Palau in Ulaanbaatar.
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Sahaib: I cannot find any prior discussion on this. Nor is there any indication that
WP:RFCBEFORE has been exhausted; so why have you gone straight to a full-blown thirty-day formal RfC for what appears to be a small matter? --
Redrose64 🦌 (
talk)
12:26, 2 January 2024 (UTC)reply
@
Redrose64: this is my first RfC and I checked
MOS:CAPS and could not find anything. This is not a small matter I have created several articles about Palauan chiefs such as
Yutaka Gibbons,
Ibedul succession dispute and this article, I have changed the capitalisation of the titles in the articles back and forth which is time consuming. The main newspaper in Palau Island Times, Palauan dictionaries (see the wiktionary article Ibedul) and French Wikipedia (see
Ibedul [
fr) capitalise them in certain ways, so this topic is quite complex and it would be good to reach a consensus with more than one or two editors one way or the other.
Sahaib (
talk)
12:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)reply
See
MOS:HON. You could have asked for help at
WP:TEAHOUSE, or at
WT:ROYALTY, or asked for clarification at
WT:MOSCAPS. But even if all those failed, you should certainly have started a discussion here, waited for other people to comment and also reach deadlock before reaching for
WP:RFC. Small matter or not, RfC is a process of last resort, used when all other methods of settling a dispute have failed. --
Redrose64 🦌 (
talk)
13:08, 2 January 2024 (UTC)reply
I found this MoS which regulates this matter. Offices, titles & positions are capitalized only when followed by a person's name to form a title per
MOS:JOBTITLES. So for example in the article shall be, e.g.:
In December 2023, Ibedul (or Chief) Alexander Merep officiated a new museum in Palau.
In January 2024, president of Mongolia met with ibedul (or chief) of Palau in Ulaanbaatar.