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@ Peterh5322:, what do the P410 and P510 terms/codes refer to ? Stepho talk 23:48, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
P410 is the model identification for the Prius v and Prius Plug-in transaxle.
P510 is the model identification for the Prius c transaxle.
Both are "third generation" transaxles, meaning the two motor-generators do not share a planetary drive unit in common ... these motor-generators have independent planetary drives.
However, the output of the planetary drives is indeed in common, as the output of the power split device (which, in these cases, serve the internal combustion engine and the motor-generator one) is also the output of the motor speed reduction device (which has as its only input the motor-generator two). In order to accomplish this, the "carrier" of the motor speed reduction device is held fixed (it is not free to rotate, although the planet pinion gears are certainly free to rotate).
In the Prius c application (P510), the power split device has a ratio of about 0.9:1, whereas the motor speed reduction device has a ratio of about 2.5:1.
In the Prius v and Prius Pluv-in applications (P410), the ratios are slightly different. And, of course, the P410 is larger and is rated higher than the P510, as the larger models weigh about 500 pounds more, and the engine is 1.8 L, rather than 1.5 L for the Prius c.
Also, taking into account the differences in vehicle weight and engine power differences, the P410 has five planet pinions on each carrier, whereas the P510 has three planet pinions on the power split device carrier and five planet pinions on the motor speed reduction device carrier.
Finally, the P410, which is also applied to other Toyota hybrids, mainly the Camry, has different final drive ratios than those applied to the Prius.
So, P410 may be taken as a general designation for a medium-sized hybrid drive system, whereas P510 may be taken as a general designation for a sub-compact-sized hybrid drive system.
Peterh5322 ( talk) 02:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)Peterh5322
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Toyota Prius v which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:46, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
I've noticed the facelifts aren't exactly accurate. The first section has before facelift, a white 2012-2014 model-year vehicle, then "First facelift, a orange 2015-2017 modelyear, but I'm thrown off by the third image, "Second facelift". To me that looks like a Aqua crossover bumper. I can only speak for the Australian units, as I have their repair manuals, but in Australia, the 2018 modelyear, the 2nd facelift, is the same as the image titled "Second facelift Toyota Aqua", and in Australia "Pre-facelift Toyota Aqua", then "First facelift Toyota Aqua", finally "Second facelift Toyota Aqua" is an accurate representation of the facelift history.
...I've just looked into this further, and it seems that for right hand drive countries outside of Japan, basically just Australia, the Aqua's facelifts are used, whereas in left-hand drive countries, the crossover bumpers are used. Would there be any objections to adding a note under "Second facelift Toyota Aqua" to say this style is also used in RHD Prius C's? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalekmun2010 ( talk • contribs) 10:28, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
I've read the article and I still have NO idea how the energy savings are made. How is the battery charged? Can someone please write a plain English explanation. Kelly222 ( talk) 23:10, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
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@ Peterh5322:, what do the P410 and P510 terms/codes refer to ? Stepho talk 23:48, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
P410 is the model identification for the Prius v and Prius Plug-in transaxle.
P510 is the model identification for the Prius c transaxle.
Both are "third generation" transaxles, meaning the two motor-generators do not share a planetary drive unit in common ... these motor-generators have independent planetary drives.
However, the output of the planetary drives is indeed in common, as the output of the power split device (which, in these cases, serve the internal combustion engine and the motor-generator one) is also the output of the motor speed reduction device (which has as its only input the motor-generator two). In order to accomplish this, the "carrier" of the motor speed reduction device is held fixed (it is not free to rotate, although the planet pinion gears are certainly free to rotate).
In the Prius c application (P510), the power split device has a ratio of about 0.9:1, whereas the motor speed reduction device has a ratio of about 2.5:1.
In the Prius v and Prius Pluv-in applications (P410), the ratios are slightly different. And, of course, the P410 is larger and is rated higher than the P510, as the larger models weigh about 500 pounds more, and the engine is 1.8 L, rather than 1.5 L for the Prius c.
Also, taking into account the differences in vehicle weight and engine power differences, the P410 has five planet pinions on each carrier, whereas the P510 has three planet pinions on the power split device carrier and five planet pinions on the motor speed reduction device carrier.
Finally, the P410, which is also applied to other Toyota hybrids, mainly the Camry, has different final drive ratios than those applied to the Prius.
So, P410 may be taken as a general designation for a medium-sized hybrid drive system, whereas P510 may be taken as a general designation for a sub-compact-sized hybrid drive system.
Peterh5322 ( talk) 02:32, 23 May 2015 (UTC)Peterh5322
There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Toyota Prius v which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. — RMCD bot 20:46, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
I've noticed the facelifts aren't exactly accurate. The first section has before facelift, a white 2012-2014 model-year vehicle, then "First facelift, a orange 2015-2017 modelyear, but I'm thrown off by the third image, "Second facelift". To me that looks like a Aqua crossover bumper. I can only speak for the Australian units, as I have their repair manuals, but in Australia, the 2018 modelyear, the 2nd facelift, is the same as the image titled "Second facelift Toyota Aqua", and in Australia "Pre-facelift Toyota Aqua", then "First facelift Toyota Aqua", finally "Second facelift Toyota Aqua" is an accurate representation of the facelift history.
...I've just looked into this further, and it seems that for right hand drive countries outside of Japan, basically just Australia, the Aqua's facelifts are used, whereas in left-hand drive countries, the crossover bumpers are used. Would there be any objections to adding a note under "Second facelift Toyota Aqua" to say this style is also used in RHD Prius C's? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalekmun2010 ( talk • contribs) 10:28, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
I've read the article and I still have NO idea how the energy savings are made. How is the battery charged? Can someone please write a plain English explanation. Kelly222 ( talk) 23:10, 11 January 2020 (UTC)