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This article reads like a list of statistics. I don't have the information to do it, but it looks like it needs a cleanup with some additional stuff added to it, like reviews/reception and competition against similar cars, and it should have more written paragraphs as opposed to bullet point lists. -- Eldg ( talk) 09:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
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The use of hp-metric in {{
convert}}
bothers me.
{{cvt|100|kW|hp|0}} |
100 kW (134 hp) |
{{cvt|100|kW|hp-metric|0}} |
100 kW (136 hp) |
{{cvt|100|kW|PS|0}} |
100 kW (136 PS) |
{{cvt|100|kW|hp-metric hp|0}} |
100 kW (136 hp; 134 hp) |
As can be seen, hp-metric uses the same conversion factor as PS but displays as though it were the hp commonly used in the UK, US and other native English speaking countries. I understand Mr Chopper's concern that the symbol PS is not universal through Europe but having the same symbol used for 2 different conversion factors is surely even more confusing.
One possibility is using PS and hoping that the majority of European readers will understand it - even though it might not be the symbol they would chose themselves.
Another possibility is asking for {{
convert}}
to display |hp-metric
differently than |hp
.
I'm open to other ideas. Stepho talk 04:38, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Code | Output | Note |
{{cvt|85|kW|hp|0}} |
85 kW (114 hp) | incorrect output, unacceptable |
{{cvt|115|hp-metric|kW|0|disp=flip}} |
85 kW (115 hp) | Could confuse those accustomed to metric hp being abbreviated "PS" |
{{cvt|115|PS|kW|0|disp=flip}} |
85 kW (115 PS) | Offends various editors who cannot accept to see the letters "PS". Some well meaning editor will change it to hp, giving us {{cvt|115|PS|kW|0|disp=flip}} 86 kW (115 hp) and then this will be changed to {{cvt|86|kW|hp|0}} 86 kW (115 hp) and then that will turn into {{cvt|86|kW|PS|0}} 86 kW (117 PS) and the output will just keep creeping up. Don't laugh, I've seen this... |
{{cvt|115|PS|kW PS hp|0|order=out}} |
85 kW (115 PS; 113 hp) | Clunky and often senseless to have three units, still offends various editors who cannot accept to see the letters "PS" |
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This article reads like a list of statistics. I don't have the information to do it, but it looks like it needs a cleanup with some additional stuff added to it, like reviews/reception and competition against similar cars, and it should have more written paragraphs as opposed to bullet point lists. -- Eldg ( talk) 09:35, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
The following Wikimedia Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for speedy deletion:
You can see the reasons for deletion at the file description pages linked above. — Community Tech bot ( talk) 15:54, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
The use of hp-metric in {{
convert}}
bothers me.
{{cvt|100|kW|hp|0}} |
100 kW (134 hp) |
{{cvt|100|kW|hp-metric|0}} |
100 kW (136 hp) |
{{cvt|100|kW|PS|0}} |
100 kW (136 PS) |
{{cvt|100|kW|hp-metric hp|0}} |
100 kW (136 hp; 134 hp) |
As can be seen, hp-metric uses the same conversion factor as PS but displays as though it were the hp commonly used in the UK, US and other native English speaking countries. I understand Mr Chopper's concern that the symbol PS is not universal through Europe but having the same symbol used for 2 different conversion factors is surely even more confusing.
One possibility is using PS and hoping that the majority of European readers will understand it - even though it might not be the symbol they would chose themselves.
Another possibility is asking for {{
convert}}
to display |hp-metric
differently than |hp
.
I'm open to other ideas. Stepho talk 04:38, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
Code | Output | Note |
{{cvt|85|kW|hp|0}} |
85 kW (114 hp) | incorrect output, unacceptable |
{{cvt|115|hp-metric|kW|0|disp=flip}} |
85 kW (115 hp) | Could confuse those accustomed to metric hp being abbreviated "PS" |
{{cvt|115|PS|kW|0|disp=flip}} |
85 kW (115 PS) | Offends various editors who cannot accept to see the letters "PS". Some well meaning editor will change it to hp, giving us {{cvt|115|PS|kW|0|disp=flip}} 86 kW (115 hp) and then this will be changed to {{cvt|86|kW|hp|0}} 86 kW (115 hp) and then that will turn into {{cvt|86|kW|PS|0}} 86 kW (117 PS) and the output will just keep creeping up. Don't laugh, I've seen this... |
{{cvt|115|PS|kW PS hp|0|order=out}} |
85 kW (115 PS; 113 hp) | Clunky and often senseless to have three units, still offends various editors who cannot accept to see the letters "PS" |