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I have seen mention of these as "City" class - since some of the Towns they are named after are actually British cities. Anyone have info on this. GraemeLeggett 13:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
The displacement of ships changes with refit in service, I would suggest that the design displacements are relevant but don't necessarily tell a complete story, however if the displacement increases then sine the beam and length probably has not then the draught has increased.
Editorial comments and anti-historical arguments have no place in Wikipedia. Content should be written from a neutral PoV. The 4in Mk XIX and Pom-pom compared quite favorably with contemporary and comparable weapon systems. In 1939 the German navy, for example, had no comparable automatic CIWS and the German, Italian and Japanese navies never fielded an AA radar FC system. Damwiki1 ( talk) 04:01, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
This article [1] has nothing to say about RN Town Class cruisers. The first Sverdlov class cruiser was not completed until 15 years after the first Town class cruisers. In reply I would say that post war the Town class cruisers represented the only viable cruiser platform to update and counter the Russian Navy and Sverdlovs. The County class were too old post war unless reengined and like the Dido class all seemed worn out after about 20 years service. The Town class were larger and faster in a seaway and potentially capable of longer life and effective modernisation. In 1959 the Belfast reentered service after an extended refit intended to give it another decades life. Modernisation of the Birmingham and Newcastle received greater updating than the Colony class. Only Liverpool and Belfast were considered to have the internal space that would have allowed fitting three twin Mk 26 turrets. British WW2 medium AA was very poor and both the Army 3.7 and Navy twin 4 seem very dated weapons of doubtful effectiveness and useless post war, cf with US 5 and 3 inch mounts form early 50s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.48.190.36 ( talk) 00:55, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
The infobox says that 12 ships were completed and of those three are preserved. The article says however that only HMS Belfast is preserved, which also shows from the list of ships. Also the list of ships only shows 10 completed ships. Also the number of scrapped ships doesn't add up, 6 according to the infobox, 5 according to the list. The numbers in the infobox also don't add up, the lost, retired and preserved add up to 13, not 12. I am no expert on these ships so I will leave the editing to someone with knowledge about the subject and straighten out the information.
Never mind, I see changes were made by an anonymous user which seem factually incorrect (adding phantom ships, changing it to a heavy cruiser, changing the weaponry) which seems inconsistent with other information on hand. I decided to be bold and restore an earlier version of the page. Fogeltje ( talk) 21:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
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I have seen mention of these as "City" class - since some of the Towns they are named after are actually British cities. Anyone have info on this. GraemeLeggett 13:13, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
The displacement of ships changes with refit in service, I would suggest that the design displacements are relevant but don't necessarily tell a complete story, however if the displacement increases then sine the beam and length probably has not then the draught has increased.
Editorial comments and anti-historical arguments have no place in Wikipedia. Content should be written from a neutral PoV. The 4in Mk XIX and Pom-pom compared quite favorably with contemporary and comparable weapon systems. In 1939 the German navy, for example, had no comparable automatic CIWS and the German, Italian and Japanese navies never fielded an AA radar FC system. Damwiki1 ( talk) 04:01, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
This article [1] has nothing to say about RN Town Class cruisers. The first Sverdlov class cruiser was not completed until 15 years after the first Town class cruisers. In reply I would say that post war the Town class cruisers represented the only viable cruiser platform to update and counter the Russian Navy and Sverdlovs. The County class were too old post war unless reengined and like the Dido class all seemed worn out after about 20 years service. The Town class were larger and faster in a seaway and potentially capable of longer life and effective modernisation. In 1959 the Belfast reentered service after an extended refit intended to give it another decades life. Modernisation of the Birmingham and Newcastle received greater updating than the Colony class. Only Liverpool and Belfast were considered to have the internal space that would have allowed fitting three twin Mk 26 turrets. British WW2 medium AA was very poor and both the Army 3.7 and Navy twin 4 seem very dated weapons of doubtful effectiveness and useless post war, cf with US 5 and 3 inch mounts form early 50s — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.48.190.36 ( talk) 00:55, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
The infobox says that 12 ships were completed and of those three are preserved. The article says however that only HMS Belfast is preserved, which also shows from the list of ships. Also the list of ships only shows 10 completed ships. Also the number of scrapped ships doesn't add up, 6 according to the infobox, 5 according to the list. The numbers in the infobox also don't add up, the lost, retired and preserved add up to 13, not 12. I am no expert on these ships so I will leave the editing to someone with knowledge about the subject and straighten out the information.
Never mind, I see changes were made by an anonymous user which seem factually incorrect (adding phantom ships, changing it to a heavy cruiser, changing the weaponry) which seems inconsistent with other information on hand. I decided to be bold and restore an earlier version of the page. Fogeltje ( talk) 21:00, 3 February 2021 (UTC)