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The title of this article does not specify the location of the tornado outbreak and is instead too specific with the time of occurrence. I suggest a page move as soon as an appropriate name is agreed upon. CentreLeftRight ✉ 06:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Someone keeps changing the Lee County tornado to EF4. So far it is only confirmed to be EF3+. While an EF4 upgrade is admittedly likely, it is not confirmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syryquil1 ( talk • contribs) 17:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
There could also possibly be other EF3 rated tornadoes during that outbreak, but so far, the tornadoes are only confirmed to be EF2+. Official ratings could change at a later time once the nws has an official statement. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 18:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC) Ok, they officially upgraded it from an EF3 to an EF4. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
It isn't an EF4 yet. No sources as I see it show that. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
What if they find EF5 damage in another area of the town. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for updating me on it. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
What about the Cairo reading? That would surely indicate an EF1+ as it was a 102 mph gust. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
The last EF5 rated tornado was the 2013 Moore tornado. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Alright. Didn't see that description. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Well the final rating could either be an EF4 which is what it is at currently, or it could be an EF5, which would've been 2,114 days since the last EF5 happened. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
They are still assessing the damage and its still an EF4. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 20:09, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
There could've been a possibility that the winds could've been above 200 miles per hour (mph), lets wait until the next update of the report. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 21:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
The tornado that happened in Jefferson County, Florida was rated an EF3 so already so two tornadoes were rated above EF3. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 07:43, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
The EF4 rating is still preliminary, the rating could change if they find cracked pavements which happens if its an EF5, also the bricks that were moved make it seem like it could be an EF5. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 16:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Also a fridge was still intact seeing photos of the damage, also we should create a page about all F4 and EF4 tornadoes in history. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 16:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Ok, they have now confirmed an EF0 tornado in Bullcock county. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 17:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
The EF4 rating is still preliminary as there are still surveys going on, also the leon country EF3 tornado should also be added to the notable tornadoes of the outbreak. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 21:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Ok, so the final rating is most likely going to be EF4 as no EF5 damage is found yet. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 22:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Someone made an analysis of the damage and it was believed to be EF5 damage, so possibly the rating is EF5. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 07:08, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
The NWS said it was EF3 damage, but it looked more like it was EF5 damage along Lee road 166. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 16:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Unless there is a reliable source claiming there is EF5 damage, we cannot have it here. Even if a reliable source does dispute the rating, we still go with the official rating. Trying to assess the damage yourself for this article is original research. You seem to want this to be an EF5, but please stop cluttering this talk page with speculation. It contributes nothing. TornadoLGS ( talk) 16:41, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
The EF4 tornado that hit lee county was the worst since a previous EF4 tornado that happened on march 20 1875 and the worst march tornado since 1932. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 21:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Someone needs to add the F4 tornadoes category to the outbreak article. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 22:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
I've lost count of how many times I've had to correct this. Death tolls haven't been bolded for years. It's like everyone has forgotten every single formatting policy. TornadoInformation12 ( talk) 20:30, 5 March 2019 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
Lee County, Alabama, has only one elected sheriff. Those officers who work for him are properly referred to as "deputy sheriff". Under the assumption that it was not the sheriff himself making the comment, the sentence would begin, "A Lee County sheriff's deputy described the damage...". If it was the sheriff himself, it should read "Lee County Sheriff Jay Jones described the damage...". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Throgmo ( talk • contribs) 23:18, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Using outbreak in the title suggests (at least to me) that it was contained first (by what?), or that it spread like a epidemic disease. Is this common wording in weather reporting? - DePiep ( talk) 11:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) NW1223 <Howl at me• My hunts> 15:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Tornado outbreak of March 3, 2019 → 2019 Beaurguard tornado outbreak – Without this tornado, the outbreak is of questionable notability. This is what everyone remembers it for, and it is the clear primary topic, therefore it should be this title. None of the other tornadoes killed anyone, where’s this became the deadliest tornado in 6 years. 173.220.46.178 ( talk) 15:05, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
I've finally stumbled upon the 2019 Beauregard tornado article, and I'm pleased by how complete and informative it is. Not only the tornado summary, but the meteorological synopsis section of that article is very complete, much more than the one present in this article. I would like to either excerpt the synopsis and placing it into this article as well, or copying it and removing the tornado-specific images placed in that section. However, I wanted to know if anyone is opposed to such a change, or if it is pertinent to do so. Mjeims ( talk) 22:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
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On 27 March 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to 2019 Beauregard tornado outbreak. The result of the discussion was not moved. |
The title of this article does not specify the location of the tornado outbreak and is instead too specific with the time of occurrence. I suggest a page move as soon as an appropriate name is agreed upon. CentreLeftRight ✉ 06:51, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Someone keeps changing the Lee County tornado to EF4. So far it is only confirmed to be EF3+. While an EF4 upgrade is admittedly likely, it is not confirmed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Syryquil1 ( talk • contribs) 17:37, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
There could also possibly be other EF3 rated tornadoes during that outbreak, but so far, the tornadoes are only confirmed to be EF2+. Official ratings could change at a later time once the nws has an official statement. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 18:44, 4 March 2019 (UTC) Ok, they officially upgraded it from an EF3 to an EF4. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:10, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
It isn't an EF4 yet. No sources as I see it show that. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:18, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
What if they find EF5 damage in another area of the town. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:20, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for updating me on it. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:21, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
What about the Cairo reading? That would surely indicate an EF1+ as it was a 102 mph gust. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
The last EF5 rated tornado was the 2013 Moore tornado. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:26, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Alright. Didn't see that description. 8medalkid ( talk) 19:38, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
Well the final rating could either be an EF4 which is what it is at currently, or it could be an EF5, which would've been 2,114 days since the last EF5 happened. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 19:41, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
They are still assessing the damage and its still an EF4. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 20:09, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
There could've been a possibility that the winds could've been above 200 miles per hour (mph), lets wait until the next update of the report. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 21:24, 4 March 2019 (UTC)
The tornado that happened in Jefferson County, Florida was rated an EF3 so already so two tornadoes were rated above EF3. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 07:43, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
The EF4 rating is still preliminary, the rating could change if they find cracked pavements which happens if its an EF5, also the bricks that were moved make it seem like it could be an EF5. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 16:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Also a fridge was still intact seeing photos of the damage, also we should create a page about all F4 and EF4 tornadoes in history. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 16:48, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Ok, they have now confirmed an EF0 tornado in Bullcock county. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 17:23, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
The EF4 rating is still preliminary as there are still surveys going on, also the leon country EF3 tornado should also be added to the notable tornadoes of the outbreak. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 21:09, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Ok, so the final rating is most likely going to be EF4 as no EF5 damage is found yet. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 22:06, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Someone made an analysis of the damage and it was believed to be EF5 damage, so possibly the rating is EF5. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 07:08, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
The NWS said it was EF3 damage, but it looked more like it was EF5 damage along Lee road 166. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 16:02, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
Unless there is a reliable source claiming there is EF5 damage, we cannot have it here. Even if a reliable source does dispute the rating, we still go with the official rating. Trying to assess the damage yourself for this article is original research. You seem to want this to be an EF5, but please stop cluttering this talk page with speculation. It contributes nothing. TornadoLGS ( talk) 16:41, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
The EF4 tornado that hit lee county was the worst since a previous EF4 tornado that happened on march 20 1875 and the worst march tornado since 1932. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 21:31, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
Someone needs to add the F4 tornadoes category to the outbreak article. StormChaserJosh ( talk) 22:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
I've lost count of how many times I've had to correct this. Death tolls haven't been bolded for years. It's like everyone has forgotten every single formatting policy. TornadoInformation12 ( talk) 20:30, 5 March 2019 (UTC)TornadoInformation12
Lee County, Alabama, has only one elected sheriff. Those officers who work for him are properly referred to as "deputy sheriff". Under the assumption that it was not the sheriff himself making the comment, the sentence would begin, "A Lee County sheriff's deputy described the damage...". If it was the sheriff himself, it should read "Lee County Sheriff Jay Jones described the damage...". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Throgmo ( talk • contribs) 23:18, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
Using outbreak in the title suggests (at least to me) that it was contained first (by what?), or that it spread like a epidemic disease. Is this common wording in weather reporting? - DePiep ( talk) 11:17, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
The result of the move request was: not moved. ( non-admin closure) NW1223 <Howl at me• My hunts> 15:36, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
Tornado outbreak of March 3, 2019 → 2019 Beaurguard tornado outbreak – Without this tornado, the outbreak is of questionable notability. This is what everyone remembers it for, and it is the clear primary topic, therefore it should be this title. None of the other tornadoes killed anyone, where’s this became the deadliest tornado in 6 years. 173.220.46.178 ( talk) 15:05, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
I've finally stumbled upon the 2019 Beauregard tornado article, and I'm pleased by how complete and informative it is. Not only the tornado summary, but the meteorological synopsis section of that article is very complete, much more than the one present in this article. I would like to either excerpt the synopsis and placing it into this article as well, or copying it and removing the tornado-specific images placed in that section. However, I wanted to know if anyone is opposed to such a change, or if it is pertinent to do so. Mjeims ( talk) 22:07, 9 May 2022 (UTC)