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For the 2007 VGA's on the Spike channel, Tommy played electric guitar with the orchestra..should this be included? I did not want to do it myself seeing as I am very new and don't know the name of the orchestra or anything like that. AgentHappyDay ( talk) 19:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Every VGA show I've seen has had him play guitar with the VGA orchestra, I don't believe it's noteworthy. 213.94.204.41 ( talk) 15:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hey guys. Can someone please change the age on this page? Tommy is 53 now.
Cheers. OneUniqueWikiUser ( talk) 16:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
As noted by one commentor here [1], the sole contribution of User:Ashesofthought as viewed here [2] is the creation of this article. It is possible this user is connected to the subject of the article. Sizeofint ( talk) 12:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Given the possibility of Wikipedia:Self-promotion and the matters starting to surround the character of the article, it may be worthwhile to consider invoking perhaps a Wikipedia:BLUELOCK in order to ensure that only trustworthy editors unbiased of anything regarding this or the Intellivision Amico; there has been shill behavior and trolling surrounding, in many articles offsite. 2601:540:8200:92A:BEB4:D82A:EC1C:EEE0 ( talk) 14:28, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Are the awards listed on this page noteworthy? They seem self-aggrandizing [1] [2], especially since many are self-nominated [3] or self-awarded. Consider this a soft nomination for deleting that section of the article. 2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE ( talk) 06:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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What's the deal with the Trivia section? Since when do encyclopedia articles have Trivia? Salvag 15:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It's not an encyclopedia, it's a WIKIpedia.
he got a record for involvement in the most games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.183.75 ( talk) 16:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Tommy has a habit of making what could be considered spurious claims. This section aims to check those claims and refute the more outlandish ones.
In example, he claims here on AtariAge to have had some hand in launching Guitar Hero. This is an unrelated example claim that simply places his ability to tell the truth [1] into question; a disestablishment of character.
On his first day, Tallarico caught the eye of an employee of the new video game company, Virgin Mastertronic, because he was wearing a TurboGrafx T-shirt.
Unless someone can produce a photo of Tommy working for Virgin-Mastertronic wearing this shirt, this seems a nebulous claim; one which doesn't serve any practical purpose either.
Tallarico advocated for more space on cartridges being devoted to audio, and became an early pioneer in bringing real sampled sounds of instruments into video games.
This claim is dramatically overstated. It is ignorant of an entire generation of computing (such as the Amiga), the history of digital sound in games in general, and people such as Karsten Obarski or Rob Hubbard..
Tallarico was the first composer to commercially release album compilations of video game music around the world.
This is a claim regarding semantics. There have been games which came with their music on a separate cassette, and albums released on vinyl (and other formats) well before Mr. Tallirico claims. It comes down to a question of what counts as a global release.
2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE ( talk) 22:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/10/tommy-tallarico-settles-copyright-dispute-with-roblox-over-oof-sound — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:9600:52C0:ACCF:D575:9459:5117 ( talk) 16:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
This article, like Tommy Tallarico's life, is littered with extreme statements made and supported only by him. If I have the time I'll start going through and sorting things out, but until then I've added a label pointing out that many of the claims in the article--like being homeless before landing his first big gig--are ultimately just things he said himself. The citations link to the articles he's being interviewed in, but because they're not ultimately making those claims (just including a transcript where he made them) I believe this falls under WP:INDEPENDENT.
I think that throwing out anything that doesn't have 3rd party confirmation would solve a lot of the issues and criticism surrounding this article. Elaboration Station ( talk) 03:23, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
As stated above, Hbomberguy recently uploaded a video about this man, that's what led me here. Obviously, YouTube links aren't a reliable source, but the video does bring into question a lot of Tallarico's claims over the years. If other sources have also objected, I feel it'd be worth compiling them + other related controversies into a controversy section. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon ( talk) 17:53, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
I understand that. I’m merely pointing out that BLPs have heightened standards for reliable sources due to the need to avoid publishing potentially libelous/revealing info about the subjects. To that end, WP: SELFPUB explicitly bans using self-published sources in BLPs even if the author of the source would otherwise be considered trustworthy. elektrik SHOOS ( talk) 13:17, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
There is just to many personal stuff in here. This article needs a good cleanup -- JAranda | yeah 15:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
"The console has been viewed very negatively by critics, drawing criticism for its delays, development turmoil, and use of NFTs. The status of the console has been called 'grim' and compared to a car crash."
There are five articles sourced for these statements, four of which are from the same website.
Unless more sources can be found which share these criticisms, they should be attributed to Kotaku (4/5) and TechRaptor (1/5) respectively. 'Critics' is too vague when the criticism is mostly coming from one source. Shoutout hbomb. Cadenrock1 ( talk) Cadenrock1 ( talk) 19:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
It's an amazing two hour deconstruction of his entire career, and it even doesn't touch on all the little lies he's told though the years. But I imagine there's going to be a zerg rush of people eagarly looking foreward to try and use the video as a source instead of following WP:Original policy. 2601:540:8200:187:8062:862:DBF8:F3DB ( talk) 00:29, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
The citation linked doesn't really provide any factual idea that Steve Tyler is actually related to him.
He said that although he didn’t have much in the way of formal training, he learned the accordion due to his family’s Italian heritage. Still, he was exposed to music early, including trips to the Springfield Symphony. In addition, Tallarico growing up would watch one of his cousins, Steven Tallarico, play at shows in cities like Worcester with his band that people would come to know as Aerosmith.
To which literally proves nothing. The citation (54) points to an article of an interview with Tommy Tallarico which is as meaningless without actual confirmation from peers or his own family. If anyone wishes to ask Steve Tyler if Tommy is his cousin, consider it a challenge. 2601:540:8200:135:2B28:91AD:BE72:32B8 ( talk) 10:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
As far as I understand the Gamer's Edition is a series of Guinness world record books, not a type of record. Tallarico has been awarded two "regular" world records, and I don't think leaving out the clarification necessarily implies he appears in any of the Guinness world records books. If anything the "(gamer's edition)" thing implies he appeared in one those books for his records, and he only appeared in the 2008 book for an interview. So unless he also appears in one of the other books, this bit also implies something that is incorrect. I'd change it myself but can't due to it being semi protected. ApollyonicCicerone ( talk) 23:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
The "800,000" record used to contradict Tallarico's record is just an estimate: 756,000 people for Tallarico vs "an estimated 800,000" for the Philaharmonic does not indicate a clear front-runner. The text in this Wikipedia article reads "as the largest attendance at the classical music concert was 800,000 at the New York Philharmonic performance in New York in 1986." "was 800,000" is not accurate. It was an "estimated 800,000." The round number was a dead giveaway. 97.127.44.143 ( talk) 05:46, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
I know, this isn't supposed to be a chronicle of the meaningless or the meandering, but it involves another six digit figure. [3] https://imgur.com/gxV1vlJ Here is an image of the docket image with case number, along with the names of the plaintiff and the revelation that Tommy signed for over 100k$ worth of furnishings. 2601:540:8200:187:8062:862:DBF8:F3DB ( talk) 07:41, 1 January 2023 (UTC) This of course also applies to Intellivision Amico and their cosplay offices.
Two articles have been cited in this article describing the hbomberguy video under the personal life section. Consensus here has established that the video is not a reliable source, and the cited articles are merely summaries of what the video says. I would think that the addition of those sources to call out Tommy's alleged "misleading or dubious" accomplishments violates WP:BLP and are an instance of WP:LAUNDER. Additionally, the articles are by the gaming websites "Time Extension" and "TheGamer", whose reliability and independence is questionable. My suggestion is that unless better sources can be used to verify Tommy's apparant lying, that the statement in the section be removed. Dawkin Verbier ( talk) 11:25, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.There was even a discussion if Nebula provided editing oversight, because if so it might not be a WP:SPS, but there was consensus that Nebula does not appear to provide editorial oversight. Independent articles about a WP:SPS are not barred by the WP:BLP policy (and for good reason, if a SPS uncovers something true and then other sources follow up on its reporting its a good sign the SPS found something real). TulsaPoliticsFan ( talk) 17:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
In the weeks since a certain video was released of which the WP:BLP policy stubbornly refuses to modernize on, several "accusations", (which we'll call politely in spite of them being the direct word of their composers) have come forward which in short, [4] https://twitter.com/user/status/1647314027788267525 nigh on prove the falsified claims of composure that Tommy has made.
I don't know if there is a policy on Wikipedia regarding "Reasonable Doubt*" but now would be a good time to invoke it.
*For clarity, this is when someone makes so many statements which are so beyond base lies that it causes every statement by the person to fall into doubt, ex gr "If he tells you the sky is blue, double check outside". As there's even audio evidence of him using piped audio at his allegedly live concerts. 2601:540:C780:48AC:83C3:6D2D:B31A:249 ( talk) 07:59, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
People keep trying to add verified/confirmed information about Tommy and his personality and his controversies but one mod seems very biased and won’t let you add anything if it isn’t positive or complimentary towards Tommy. It comes across as very biased and unprofessional. Can we please try and keep emotion(s) out of this? 2600:1001:B0E8:353:9868:9314:D2FF:E10F ( talk) 21:14, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Cogsan — the subject of the article is Thomas Andrew Tallarico, as referenced in the federal lawsuit which is not permitted here because it’s “original research.” The subject’s late father is Thomas V. Tallarico (d.2022), who wrote a letter to the judge in support of his son. There’s no “Vandrew” nor is this particularly complex. TAT born 1968. Spyrus ( talk) 23:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
I've read this talk page and you guys are claiming that since he is currently living, there can't be a section about his controversies and that's just silly. TJ Miller is currently living and has one on his article, so does DaBaby, so does Eminem, etc.
The person that mentioned bias seems right on the money. 72.9.0.101 ( talk) 22:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
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For the 2007 VGA's on the Spike channel, Tommy played electric guitar with the orchestra..should this be included? I did not want to do it myself seeing as I am very new and don't know the name of the orchestra or anything like that. AgentHappyDay ( talk) 19:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Every VGA show I've seen has had him play guitar with the VGA orchestra, I don't believe it's noteworthy. 213.94.204.41 ( talk) 15:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
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Hey guys. Can someone please change the age on this page? Tommy is 53 now.
Cheers. OneUniqueWikiUser ( talk) 16:43, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
As noted by one commentor here [1], the sole contribution of User:Ashesofthought as viewed here [2] is the creation of this article. It is possible this user is connected to the subject of the article. Sizeofint ( talk) 12:59, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Given the possibility of Wikipedia:Self-promotion and the matters starting to surround the character of the article, it may be worthwhile to consider invoking perhaps a Wikipedia:BLUELOCK in order to ensure that only trustworthy editors unbiased of anything regarding this or the Intellivision Amico; there has been shill behavior and trolling surrounding, in many articles offsite. 2601:540:8200:92A:BEB4:D82A:EC1C:EEE0 ( talk) 14:28, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
Are the awards listed on this page noteworthy? They seem self-aggrandizing [1] [2], especially since many are self-nominated [3] or self-awarded. Consider this a soft nomination for deleting that section of the article. 2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE ( talk) 06:09, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
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What's the deal with the Trivia section? Since when do encyclopedia articles have Trivia? Salvag 15:57, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
It's not an encyclopedia, it's a WIKIpedia.
he got a record for involvement in the most games. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.183.75 ( talk) 16:15, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
Tommy has a habit of making what could be considered spurious claims. This section aims to check those claims and refute the more outlandish ones.
In example, he claims here on AtariAge to have had some hand in launching Guitar Hero. This is an unrelated example claim that simply places his ability to tell the truth [1] into question; a disestablishment of character.
On his first day, Tallarico caught the eye of an employee of the new video game company, Virgin Mastertronic, because he was wearing a TurboGrafx T-shirt.
Unless someone can produce a photo of Tommy working for Virgin-Mastertronic wearing this shirt, this seems a nebulous claim; one which doesn't serve any practical purpose either.
Tallarico advocated for more space on cartridges being devoted to audio, and became an early pioneer in bringing real sampled sounds of instruments into video games.
This claim is dramatically overstated. It is ignorant of an entire generation of computing (such as the Amiga), the history of digital sound in games in general, and people such as Karsten Obarski or Rob Hubbard..
Tallarico was the first composer to commercially release album compilations of video game music around the world.
This is a claim regarding semantics. There have been games which came with their music on a separate cassette, and albums released on vinyl (and other formats) well before Mr. Tallirico claims. It comes down to a question of what counts as a global release.
2601:540:8200:1895:1F11:1CEA:17AE:94CE ( talk) 22:07, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
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I've protected the page, as there has been edit warring regarding some blatant WP:BLP violations. Please discuss and hash out issues here. Sergecross73 msg me 01:07, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
It should be noted that there is a consorted effort to negatively damage this page which goes against Wikipedia rules. There is a group of people that openly plans and attacks this person and this Wiki page while bragging about it publicly on reddit.
Trying to characterize this person as a "criminal" on a plea bargin misdemeanor is outrageous. Wikipedia rules state: "Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person."
Per Wikipedia rules: "Unsourced and negative in tone, especially when they appear to have been created primarily to disparage the subject, should be deleted at once if there is no policy-compliant version to revert to; see § Summary deletion, creation prevention, and courtesy blanking, below. Non-administrators should tag them with {{db-attack}} or {{db-negublp}}. Creation of such pages, especially when repeated or in bad faith, is grounds for immediate blocking."
Per Wikipedia rules: "Wikipedia is not a forum provided for parties to off-wiki disputes to continue their hostilities. Experience has shown that misusing Wikipedia to perpetuate legal, political, social, literary, scholarly, or other disputes is harmful to the subjects of biographical articles, to other parties in the dispute, and to Wikipedia itself." 2600:1012:B1D6:4067:7D81:D308:F139:DEBE ( talk) 12:29, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
https://venturebeat.com/2020/11/10/tommy-tallarico-settles-copyright-dispute-with-roblox-over-oof-sound — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:6011:9600:52C0:ACCF:D575:9459:5117 ( talk) 16:30, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
This article, like Tommy Tallarico's life, is littered with extreme statements made and supported only by him. If I have the time I'll start going through and sorting things out, but until then I've added a label pointing out that many of the claims in the article--like being homeless before landing his first big gig--are ultimately just things he said himself. The citations link to the articles he's being interviewed in, but because they're not ultimately making those claims (just including a transcript where he made them) I believe this falls under WP:INDEPENDENT.
I think that throwing out anything that doesn't have 3rd party confirmation would solve a lot of the issues and criticism surrounding this article. Elaboration Station ( talk) 03:23, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
As stated above, Hbomberguy recently uploaded a video about this man, that's what led me here. Obviously, YouTube links aren't a reliable source, but the video does bring into question a lot of Tallarico's claims over the years. If other sources have also objected, I feel it'd be worth compiling them + other related controversies into a controversy section. Harmonia per misericordia. OmegaFallon ( talk) 17:53, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
I understand that. I’m merely pointing out that BLPs have heightened standards for reliable sources due to the need to avoid publishing potentially libelous/revealing info about the subjects. To that end, WP: SELFPUB explicitly bans using self-published sources in BLPs even if the author of the source would otherwise be considered trustworthy. elektrik SHOOS ( talk) 13:17, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
There is just to many personal stuff in here. This article needs a good cleanup -- JAranda | yeah 15:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
"The console has been viewed very negatively by critics, drawing criticism for its delays, development turmoil, and use of NFTs. The status of the console has been called 'grim' and compared to a car crash."
There are five articles sourced for these statements, four of which are from the same website.
Unless more sources can be found which share these criticisms, they should be attributed to Kotaku (4/5) and TechRaptor (1/5) respectively. 'Critics' is too vague when the criticism is mostly coming from one source. Shoutout hbomb. Cadenrock1 ( talk) Cadenrock1 ( talk) 19:40, 8 December 2022 (UTC)
It's an amazing two hour deconstruction of his entire career, and it even doesn't touch on all the little lies he's told though the years. But I imagine there's going to be a zerg rush of people eagarly looking foreward to try and use the video as a source instead of following WP:Original policy. 2601:540:8200:187:8062:862:DBF8:F3DB ( talk) 00:29, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
The citation linked doesn't really provide any factual idea that Steve Tyler is actually related to him.
He said that although he didn’t have much in the way of formal training, he learned the accordion due to his family’s Italian heritage. Still, he was exposed to music early, including trips to the Springfield Symphony. In addition, Tallarico growing up would watch one of his cousins, Steven Tallarico, play at shows in cities like Worcester with his band that people would come to know as Aerosmith.
To which literally proves nothing. The citation (54) points to an article of an interview with Tommy Tallarico which is as meaningless without actual confirmation from peers or his own family. If anyone wishes to ask Steve Tyler if Tommy is his cousin, consider it a challenge. 2601:540:8200:135:2B28:91AD:BE72:32B8 ( talk) 10:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
As far as I understand the Gamer's Edition is a series of Guinness world record books, not a type of record. Tallarico has been awarded two "regular" world records, and I don't think leaving out the clarification necessarily implies he appears in any of the Guinness world records books. If anything the "(gamer's edition)" thing implies he appeared in one those books for his records, and he only appeared in the 2008 book for an interview. So unless he also appears in one of the other books, this bit also implies something that is incorrect. I'd change it myself but can't due to it being semi protected. ApollyonicCicerone ( talk) 23:13, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
The "800,000" record used to contradict Tallarico's record is just an estimate: 756,000 people for Tallarico vs "an estimated 800,000" for the Philaharmonic does not indicate a clear front-runner. The text in this Wikipedia article reads "as the largest attendance at the classical music concert was 800,000 at the New York Philharmonic performance in New York in 1986." "was 800,000" is not accurate. It was an "estimated 800,000." The round number was a dead giveaway. 97.127.44.143 ( talk) 05:46, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
I know, this isn't supposed to be a chronicle of the meaningless or the meandering, but it involves another six digit figure. [3] https://imgur.com/gxV1vlJ Here is an image of the docket image with case number, along with the names of the plaintiff and the revelation that Tommy signed for over 100k$ worth of furnishings. 2601:540:8200:187:8062:862:DBF8:F3DB ( talk) 07:41, 1 January 2023 (UTC) This of course also applies to Intellivision Amico and their cosplay offices.
Two articles have been cited in this article describing the hbomberguy video under the personal life section. Consensus here has established that the video is not a reliable source, and the cited articles are merely summaries of what the video says. I would think that the addition of those sources to call out Tommy's alleged "misleading or dubious" accomplishments violates WP:BLP and are an instance of WP:LAUNDER. Additionally, the articles are by the gaming websites "Time Extension" and "TheGamer", whose reliability and independence is questionable. My suggestion is that unless better sources can be used to verify Tommy's apparant lying, that the statement in the section be removed. Dawkin Verbier ( talk) 11:25, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer.There was even a discussion if Nebula provided editing oversight, because if so it might not be a WP:SPS, but there was consensus that Nebula does not appear to provide editorial oversight. Independent articles about a WP:SPS are not barred by the WP:BLP policy (and for good reason, if a SPS uncovers something true and then other sources follow up on its reporting its a good sign the SPS found something real). TulsaPoliticsFan ( talk) 17:14, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
In the weeks since a certain video was released of which the WP:BLP policy stubbornly refuses to modernize on, several "accusations", (which we'll call politely in spite of them being the direct word of their composers) have come forward which in short, [4] https://twitter.com/user/status/1647314027788267525 nigh on prove the falsified claims of composure that Tommy has made.
I don't know if there is a policy on Wikipedia regarding "Reasonable Doubt*" but now would be a good time to invoke it.
*For clarity, this is when someone makes so many statements which are so beyond base lies that it causes every statement by the person to fall into doubt, ex gr "If he tells you the sky is blue, double check outside". As there's even audio evidence of him using piped audio at his allegedly live concerts. 2601:540:C780:48AC:83C3:6D2D:B31A:249 ( talk) 07:59, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
People keep trying to add verified/confirmed information about Tommy and his personality and his controversies but one mod seems very biased and won’t let you add anything if it isn’t positive or complimentary towards Tommy. It comes across as very biased and unprofessional. Can we please try and keep emotion(s) out of this? 2600:1001:B0E8:353:9868:9314:D2FF:E10F ( talk) 21:14, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
Cogsan — the subject of the article is Thomas Andrew Tallarico, as referenced in the federal lawsuit which is not permitted here because it’s “original research.” The subject’s late father is Thomas V. Tallarico (d.2022), who wrote a letter to the judge in support of his son. There’s no “Vandrew” nor is this particularly complex. TAT born 1968. Spyrus ( talk) 23:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)
I've read this talk page and you guys are claiming that since he is currently living, there can't be a section about his controversies and that's just silly. TJ Miller is currently living and has one on his article, so does DaBaby, so does Eminem, etc.
The person that mentioned bias seems right on the money. 72.9.0.101 ( talk) 22:37, 7 July 2023 (UTC)