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The year CBG gives, 1961, seems like it cannot possibly be correct if Veitch was a force in underground cartooning in the late 1960s. But unless another reliable-source citation can be found, we can't change it to any other year based on personal POV. This is probably why no year was included until an anon-IP put a different year in without explanation or citation, and why I'm removing "1961" now. -- Tenebrae ( talk) 19:25, 3 January 2013 (UTC) reply