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I think we should remove all recoveries, "came in contact with so and so people" and other such kind of stuff and keep only reported cases on this page. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:35, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
1.Recoveries are important too. We can just write that this much people recovered in this state for a particular date.
2."Came in contact" can be avoided from now on and just report total no. of cases from a state per day and most we can do is write city and no. of cases. For Eg.聽:- X State reported 10 cases - 4 from Y, 6 from Z. - Mayankj429 ( talk) 19:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
OK, so we can keep no. of recoveries on a particular day and remove "came in contact with" henceforth. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 20:13, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
158.144.113.91 ( talk) 12:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Preparing rough death statistic here before adding on main page. Kindly add other relevant parameters if you need. 搂搂 Dharmadhyaksha搂搂 { Talk / Edits} 11:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
No. | Date | State | Age | Sex | Source | Ref |
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1 | 12 March 2020 | KA | 76 | M | Saudi Arabia | |
2 | 13 March 20202 | DL | 69 | F | ||
3 | 17 March 2020 | MH | 64 | M | ||
4 | 19 March 2020 | PB | 72 | M | Germany - Italy | |
5 | 22 March 2020 | MH | 63 | M | ||
6 | 22 March 2020 | BH | 38 | M | ||
7 | 22 March 2020 | GJ | 64 | M |
I don't like the timeline exclusively covering just info about cases. We should also consider adding other noteworthy things like the lockdowns, etc. Some other articles does that. Especially the UK article, it has one of the best imo. Often we are forced to leave a lot of important events since there is no section to place them in the main article (Today there was
this). I know revamping our current structure here takes a lot of effort which is a waste of time. But can we consider adding such events in the future?
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Mr.Mani Raj Paul:
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TheRichardPinto:
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SaiP:
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Brown Chocolate:
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I think there are more than enough sections in the main article. If you want to cover any other topic, you should add a new section in the main article, and if that section is too long, you can create a new page for it and provide the link to that page in that section of the main article. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 15:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Mr.Mani Raj Paul, TheRichardPinto, Shanze1, Brown Chocolate, DTM, and Mayankj429: Hello guys. My apologies. I was busy getting essentials for home. I hope you understand. As far as the suggestion is concerned, with my experience in writing IEEE articles, I would suggest that we keep the main article crisp and short. It should only summarise. The details about lockdown can be included in Indian local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic by changing the title to Indian federal, state, and local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic. In that way, we can cover all types of lockdown and curfews in one article and we can link the same in the main article. Request your opinions on my comment. Thank you. SaiP ( talk) 07:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I would like to contribute by keeping the numbers up-to-date. Can you please whitelist me? Kolmil ( talk) 14:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
As of 25th March, 1:30 PM, MOHFW's death count is 9. However, in our timeline, we already have a 10th death. The thing is that, MOHFW has not included the third death in Maharashtra. So, please don't change the timeline. It is 100% accurate, as far as I've checked. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 07:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
聽Question: Did we cover all the confirmed cases as per the original source? [1] SaiP ( talk) 10:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
References
Hi @ TheRichardPinto:聽: In this edit [1], you have removed update which i added of death of a woman from karnataka who died on 24 march and was a suspect, later today her sample came positive. Mohfw have also updated it - As they show 2 deaths in karnataka now, you can check it [2]. Further Source - [3] - Mayankj429 ( talk) 17:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Simple rule. Check by tomorrow end of day. If MOHFW doesn't acknowledge it, do not mention it in the timeline at all. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 17:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I am adding case now. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Now it is perfect 16 same as mohfw. For this, I added Karnataka case, removed Rajasthan case and removed Maharashtra case. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi @ Mr.Mani Raj Paul: @ SaiP: @ Brown Chocolate: @ Mayankj429: @ Shanze1: I think we should update the cases reported for a day only at the end of that particular day. This is because the cases reported in a particular state on a particular day keeps increasing every few hours. For example, cases reported in Maharashtra on 30 March goes from 5 to 10 to 25 and so on. At the end of the day, we can refer covid19India.org and update the article accordingly. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 05:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Should we need not explain how the cases have come to light? For example Tablighi Jamaat event which took a toll on rise of number of confirmed cases [1] [2] [3]. If we see last few days, cases have been exponential. I know everyone have been doing a wonderful job and it would be difficult, but we should at least make an attempt. Shouldn't we? Just a thought. Request to throw in your thoughts here guys - Shanze1, TheRichardPinto, Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Brown Chocolate, DTM, Kautilya3. I request other editors and volunteers to participate as well.
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See my input above for how to restructure this page. "Exponential" is the nature of the pandemic. It is not something new. The trend line of +16%/day is still holding. The effects of the lockdown won't be seen until a couple of weeks into it. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't a bulletin board as well where we just publish the data. I Agree with Shanze1 and Kautilya3. We need to give a summary style crisp detail about the cases and the big events have to be given their importance. SaiP ( talk) 09:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I think a one paragraph summary for each of these big events in the timeline section of the main article is enough. However, high-profile events like Tablighi Jamaat might require a separate article. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 10:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Also, mentioning that this case is linked to this event in the timeline article will result in a lot of repetitive content. I try my best to mention any unique details that I find about any case. But mostly newspapers nowadays only mention case counts, so it's getting harder by the day to keep the article fresh. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 10:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Also, I think we should incorporate the state-wise table of United States Timeline into our timeline. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 11:06, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I feel we have to improve the orange graph as we will have more cases as days go by. I had a look at US article which had the orange graph like this US Orange Graph. It seems to have been divided into months which keeps it short and neat. How about we implement the same? In that way, in the main article as well the graph does not look big. What are your thoughts Shanze1, TheRichardPinto, Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Brown Chocolate, DTM, and Kautilya3? SaiP ( talk) 10:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 10:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Mr.Mani Raj Paul: @SaiP: @Brown Chocolate: @Mayankj429: @Shanze1: Currently 32 deaths have been reported in our timeline, MOHFW has confirmed 41 deaths and the death toll has reached 56 on covid19india. As of now, I used to report deaths by looking at the state-wise details provided by MOHFW and finding out which deaths they have taken into account in their update. But since they changed their website's design, the state-wise details are not available either due to a glitch or maybe they have actually kept that section blank. What should we do now? TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi @TheRichardPinto The information has moved to the section with header "COVID-19 Statewise Status (Click to expand)" in the new MOHFW page. Your detailed listing is a very good research tool. My team is using it for epidemiological estimates. Thank you for maintaining it. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by SurgicalSutures ( talk 鈥 contribs) 01:58, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
"COVID-19 Statewise Status (Click to expand)" does not expand on mobile. That is why I was asking. Now I tried on desktop. It expanded. Thank you. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 05:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
@ TheRichardPinto: and other page editors: Hi, wanted to point out an oversight. The article says "On 31 March, a 68-year-old woman from Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala[238] and a 65-year-old man from Mohali district in Punjab[239] became the forty-third and forty-fourth victims of the virus in the country." and then later "On 1 April, a 65-year-old man from Khargone district in Madhya Pradesh,[252] a 72-year-old from Meerut in Uttar Pradesh[253] a 51-year-old man from Mumbai in Maharashtra, a 50-year-old man from Palghar in Maharashtra, a 75-year-old man from Mumbai in Maharashtra, an 84-year-old woman from Mumbai in Maharashtra, a 73-year-old woman from Mumbai in Maharashtra and a 63-year-old woman from Mumbai in Maharashtra[254] became the forty-sixth, forty-seventh, forty-eighth, forty-ninth, fiftieth, fifty-first, fifty-second and fifty-third victims of the virus in the country" Victim number 45 is missing! Hope you be able to check and correct. SurgicalSutures ( talk) 05:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
@ TheRichardPinto: and other page editors: death of "71 year old man from Chennai" repeated on April 2 and April 3. Citation number 274 for first and 289 for second are identical. Thanks for fixing the earlier issue. SurgicalSutures
Hi, Mr.Mani Raj Paul, SaiP, Brown Chocolate, Mayankj429, Shanze1 and Kautilya3. I need some suggestions. Uptil now, I have tried my best to mention deaths as soon as MOHFW acknowledges them. I also provide the order of those deaths, which is somewhat close to accurate. However, now it is getting really difficult as the actual numbers are way ahead of MOHFW numbers and God only knows which deaths are considered, what is the order of those deaths, where can I find good citations, should I stop mentioning the order, should I remove the previously maintained order and just write "succumbed to the virus" instead of "became the so-and-so victims of the virus". TheRichardPinto ( talk) 09:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Editors, I suggest that we add an timeline sidebar containing major events and occurrences happened during the pandemic. We can use any one of these templates: Template:Graphical timeline or Template:Sidebar timeline. Timbaaa ( talk) 09:16, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Mayankj429:, @ Shanze1: I made one here: User:Timbaaa/sandbox/3. You guys can improve upon it. Timbaaa ( talk) 02:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
This page is not transcluding a navbox properly at the bottom, which means that it is strongly recommended to split the pages up before references stop showing up as well. I suggest doing it by month if all the information should be kept. 鈥 Tenryuu聽馃惒聽(聽 馃挰聽鈥⒙ 馃摑聽) 21:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
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COVID-19, broadly construed, which has been
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This article is written in Indian English, which has its own spelling conventions (colour, travelled, centre, analysed, defence) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
This article is rated B-class on Wikipedia's
content assessment scale. It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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I think we should remove all recoveries, "came in contact with so and so people" and other such kind of stuff and keep only reported cases on this page. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:35, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
1.Recoveries are important too. We can just write that this much people recovered in this state for a particular date.
2."Came in contact" can be avoided from now on and just report total no. of cases from a state per day and most we can do is write city and no. of cases. For Eg.聽:- X State reported 10 cases - 4 from Y, 6 from Z. - Mayankj429 ( talk) 19:00, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
OK, so we can keep no. of recoveries on a particular day and remove "came in contact with" henceforth. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 20:13, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
158.144.113.91 ( talk) 12:33, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Preparing rough death statistic here before adding on main page. Kindly add other relevant parameters if you need. 搂搂 Dharmadhyaksha搂搂 { Talk / Edits} 11:24, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
No. | Date | State | Age | Sex | Source | Ref |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
1 | 12 March 2020 | KA | 76 | M | Saudi Arabia | |
2 | 13 March 20202 | DL | 69 | F | ||
3 | 17 March 2020 | MH | 64 | M | ||
4 | 19 March 2020 | PB | 72 | M | Germany - Italy | |
5 | 22 March 2020 | MH | 63 | M | ||
6 | 22 March 2020 | BH | 38 | M | ||
7 | 22 March 2020 | GJ | 64 | M |
I don't like the timeline exclusively covering just info about cases. We should also consider adding other noteworthy things like the lockdowns, etc. Some other articles does that. Especially the UK article, it has one of the best imo. Often we are forced to leave a lot of important events since there is no section to place them in the main article (Today there was
this). I know revamping our current structure here takes a lot of effort which is a waste of time. But can we consider adding such events in the future?
@
Mr.Mani Raj Paul:
@
TheRichardPinto:
@
SaiP:
@
Brown Chocolate:
@
Mayankj429:
-
Shanze1 (
talk) 15:39, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
I think there are more than enough sections in the main article. If you want to cover any other topic, you should add a new section in the main article, and if that section is too long, you can create a new page for it and provide the link to that page in that section of the main article. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 15:53, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Mr.Mani Raj Paul, TheRichardPinto, Shanze1, Brown Chocolate, DTM, and Mayankj429: Hello guys. My apologies. I was busy getting essentials for home. I hope you understand. As far as the suggestion is concerned, with my experience in writing IEEE articles, I would suggest that we keep the main article crisp and short. It should only summarise. The details about lockdown can be included in Indian local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic by changing the title to Indian federal, state, and local government response to the 2020 coronavirus pandemic. In that way, we can cover all types of lockdown and curfews in one article and we can link the same in the main article. Request your opinions on my comment. Thank you. SaiP ( talk) 07:17, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
I would like to contribute by keeping the numbers up-to-date. Can you please whitelist me? Kolmil ( talk) 14:40, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
As of 25th March, 1:30 PM, MOHFW's death count is 9. However, in our timeline, we already have a 10th death. The thing is that, MOHFW has not included the third death in Maharashtra. So, please don't change the timeline. It is 100% accurate, as far as I've checked. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 07:47, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
聽Question: Did we cover all the confirmed cases as per the original source? [1] SaiP ( talk) 10:43, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
References
Hi @ TheRichardPinto:聽: In this edit [1], you have removed update which i added of death of a woman from karnataka who died on 24 march and was a suspect, later today her sample came positive. Mohfw have also updated it - As they show 2 deaths in karnataka now, you can check it [2]. Further Source - [3] - Mayankj429 ( talk) 17:15, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Simple rule. Check by tomorrow end of day. If MOHFW doesn't acknowledge it, do not mention it in the timeline at all. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 17:45, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I am adding case now. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:02, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Now it is perfect 16 same as mohfw. For this, I added Karnataka case, removed Rajasthan case and removed Maharashtra case. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:18, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
Hi @ Mr.Mani Raj Paul: @ SaiP: @ Brown Chocolate: @ Mayankj429: @ Shanze1: I think we should update the cases reported for a day only at the end of that particular day. This is because the cases reported in a particular state on a particular day keeps increasing every few hours. For example, cases reported in Maharashtra on 30 March goes from 5 to 10 to 25 and so on. At the end of the day, we can refer covid19India.org and update the article accordingly. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 05:15, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
Should we need not explain how the cases have come to light? For example Tablighi Jamaat event which took a toll on rise of number of confirmed cases [1] [2] [3]. If we see last few days, cases have been exponential. I know everyone have been doing a wonderful job and it would be difficult, but we should at least make an attempt. Shouldn't we? Just a thought. Request to throw in your thoughts here guys - Shanze1, TheRichardPinto, Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Brown Chocolate, DTM, Kautilya3. I request other editors and volunteers to participate as well.
References
{{
cite web}}
: |first3=
has numeric name (
help)CS1 maint: extra punctuation (
link) CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (
link)
See my input above for how to restructure this page. "Exponential" is the nature of the pandemic. It is not something new. The trend line of +16%/day is still holding. The effects of the lockdown won't be seen until a couple of weeks into it. -- Kautilya3 ( talk) 08:46, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Wikipedia isn't a bulletin board as well where we just publish the data. I Agree with Shanze1 and Kautilya3. We need to give a summary style crisp detail about the cases and the big events have to be given their importance. SaiP ( talk) 09:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I think a one paragraph summary for each of these big events in the timeline section of the main article is enough. However, high-profile events like Tablighi Jamaat might require a separate article. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 10:50, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Also, mentioning that this case is linked to this event in the timeline article will result in a lot of repetitive content. I try my best to mention any unique details that I find about any case. But mostly newspapers nowadays only mention case counts, so it's getting harder by the day to keep the article fresh. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 10:56, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Also, I think we should incorporate the state-wise table of United States Timeline into our timeline. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 11:06, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I feel we have to improve the orange graph as we will have more cases as days go by. I had a look at US article which had the orange graph like this US Orange Graph. It seems to have been divided into months which keeps it short and neat. How about we implement the same? In that way, in the main article as well the graph does not look big. What are your thoughts Shanze1, TheRichardPinto, Mr.Mani Raj Paul, Brown Chocolate, DTM, and Kautilya3? SaiP ( talk) 10:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
I agree. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 10:43, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi @Mr.Mani Raj Paul: @SaiP: @Brown Chocolate: @Mayankj429: @Shanze1: Currently 32 deaths have been reported in our timeline, MOHFW has confirmed 41 deaths and the death toll has reached 56 on covid19india. As of now, I used to report deaths by looking at the state-wise details provided by MOHFW and finding out which deaths they have taken into account in their update. But since they changed their website's design, the state-wise details are not available either due to a glitch or maybe they have actually kept that section blank. What should we do now? TheRichardPinto ( talk) 18:49, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi @TheRichardPinto The information has moved to the section with header "COVID-19 Statewise Status (Click to expand)" in the new MOHFW page. Your detailed listing is a very good research tool. My team is using it for epidemiological estimates. Thank you for maintaining it. 鈥斅燩receding unsigned comment added by SurgicalSutures ( talk 鈥 contribs) 01:58, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
"COVID-19 Statewise Status (Click to expand)" does not expand on mobile. That is why I was asking. Now I tried on desktop. It expanded. Thank you. TheRichardPinto ( talk) 05:46, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
@ TheRichardPinto: and other page editors: Hi, wanted to point out an oversight. The article says "On 31 March, a 68-year-old woman from Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala[238] and a 65-year-old man from Mohali district in Punjab[239] became the forty-third and forty-fourth victims of the virus in the country." and then later "On 1 April, a 65-year-old man from Khargone district in Madhya Pradesh,[252] a 72-year-old from Meerut in Uttar Pradesh[253] a 51-year-old man from Mumbai in Maharashtra, a 50-year-old man from Palghar in Maharashtra, a 75-year-old man from Mumbai in Maharashtra, an 84-year-old woman from Mumbai in Maharashtra, a 73-year-old woman from Mumbai in Maharashtra and a 63-year-old woman from Mumbai in Maharashtra[254] became the forty-sixth, forty-seventh, forty-eighth, forty-ninth, fiftieth, fifty-first, fifty-second and fifty-third victims of the virus in the country" Victim number 45 is missing! Hope you be able to check and correct. SurgicalSutures ( talk) 05:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
@ TheRichardPinto: and other page editors: death of "71 year old man from Chennai" repeated on April 2 and April 3. Citation number 274 for first and 289 for second are identical. Thanks for fixing the earlier issue. SurgicalSutures
Hi, Mr.Mani Raj Paul, SaiP, Brown Chocolate, Mayankj429, Shanze1 and Kautilya3. I need some suggestions. Uptil now, I have tried my best to mention deaths as soon as MOHFW acknowledges them. I also provide the order of those deaths, which is somewhat close to accurate. However, now it is getting really difficult as the actual numbers are way ahead of MOHFW numbers and God only knows which deaths are considered, what is the order of those deaths, where can I find good citations, should I stop mentioning the order, should I remove the previously maintained order and just write "succumbed to the virus" instead of "became the so-and-so victims of the virus". TheRichardPinto ( talk) 09:16, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi Editors, I suggest that we add an timeline sidebar containing major events and occurrences happened during the pandemic. We can use any one of these templates: Template:Graphical timeline or Template:Sidebar timeline. Timbaaa ( talk) 09:16, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
@ Mayankj429:, @ Shanze1: I made one here: User:Timbaaa/sandbox/3. You guys can improve upon it. Timbaaa ( talk) 02:44, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
This page is not transcluding a navbox properly at the bottom, which means that it is strongly recommended to split the pages up before references stop showing up as well. I suggest doing it by month if all the information should be kept. 鈥 Tenryuu聽馃惒聽(聽 馃挰聽鈥⒙ 馃摑聽) 21:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)