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As known most wikipedia editors are American, and there in lays my concern. onthe box of the 'al-Qaeda terror campaign' box 9/11 is in bold i find this unneeded and it also belittles those who have died in other attacks so i think it should be not bold. Cj105 11:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
What about OPM SANG? OPM SANG predated Khobar towers, and was an al-Qaeda operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.66.241 ( talk) 22:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
In the passage on 9/11, we read that it was the deadliest act of terrorism in history. It was a part of a war, and the USA named it the "war on terror". This was not an act of "terrorism" --- it was an act of warfare. The word 'terrorism' evokes a sense of innocence on the part of the US. We can agree that 9/11 sucked, while also respecting the fact that the US is not a perfectly moral nation. Respect, in this case, comes in the form of accurate diction.
If we can use the word 'terrorism' so casually, then let's call the Holocaust the most deadly act of terrorism. I think that evoked more terrified feelings for even longer than did 9/11.
Or maybe we can call the atrocity that is Hiroshima to be the most deadly act of terrorism.
This article's infobox seems quite biased to the US and a bit innacurate ( George W. Bush as an al-Qaeda commander?) Is there something here you all know about and I don't, or is that vandalism?? -- S.O. E-L-I-Z-A (YB3) T @ lk/ contribs 00:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Military targets are included in this list ( USS Cole bombing, USS The Sullivans plot). Terrorism involves non-combatant targets, which these were not. Either these entries should be removed or the page should be renamed to reflect that more than terrorism activities are included here. -- ChrisRuvolo ( t) 01:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we should have an alternate name for this page, such as Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks, History of al-Qaeda attacks, or something similar. Comments?
P.S. Shouldn't this article go back at least to the 1993 WTC bombing? Why is Khobar Towers taken as the start? I am not overly familiar with the history of this and the main al-Qaeda article, so I will undertake no changes for now. Thanks, Black Falcon 01:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Al-Qaeda terror campaign → Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks — It seems more neutral. SeiteNichtGefunden 11:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. I felt that the move was sufficiently uncontroversial so as not to require consensus-building. --
Black Falcon (
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17:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the references to the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing as being an al Qaeda attack both here and in the KT main article (in which the word al Qaeda didn't appear for good reason).
Here the KT bombing was included with the description that al Qaeda is often "cited" as being as suspect and that the attack is often "ascribed" to them. This is generally called "ignorance" and isn't generally something you cite as supporting information.
As this was a serious matter involving people getting killed, it got investigated and was found to have been carried out by a different group without any known involvement of al Qaeda . There's an indictment, a description of what the investigation found and all the known players cited in the KT's own article.
The infobox still includes "1st Khobar Towers" as a listed attack which I don't know how to correct, so if you do, please remove it from there too. Attriti0n 02:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I understand it was in the planning stages, but I was wondering if there was information about when it would have been executed. Brian Pearson 14:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the claim that Interpol and the Spanish government believe that Spanish Police was involved in the attacks. It is false and unsupported by the quoted sources.
-- Larean01 10:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The source: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1001171,00.html?promoid=googlep
ATTACK DEC. 29, 1992 ADEN, YEMEN One hundred U.S. servicemen had just left the Gold Mohur Hotel, on their way to duty in Somalia, when the bomb hit. It killed two people in the hotel and seriously wounded four tourists. Two suspects reportedly had 23 bombs, two antitank mines, dynamite and machine guns.
Does not cite al-qaeda as being responsible. Vexorg ( talk) 06:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSSP66665 - "Soon after the blast, Yazid had claimed responsibility for al Qaeda in a posting on an Islamist website." - this is a very vague source Aude. It's just a hearsay claim. However, you are an administrator so I'm not going to fight with you over it. But personally I think this devalues Wikipedia when articles sound so definite based upon sources that are as weak as this. Vexorg ( talk) 06:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
It looks to me like that.
What about a long list of alQaeda attacks in the Middle East and Southern Asia??
i.e In Saudi arabia there were at least 4 attacks that were claimed by alQaeda.
I hope someone can collect them all and add them to this article.
Cutedoctor ( talk) 03:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Does this list deal with Jemaah Islamiyah or not?-- 81.232.105.190 ( talk) 15:45, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
It should be split into a factual list of acts they claim they have committed, and one with the "suspected of being influenced" hearsay. Marty Crabneck ( talk) 00:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
This is a list here of terrorist attacks. About half of these attacks involve al-qaeda or groups related to al-qaeda. I therefore added the deadliest ones to this article. However on 2nd thought the list it way too long and you can't fit all al-qaeda attacks on this page. The death toll below 70 casualties i have left out. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Pass a Method talk 12:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I just remove a bunch of attacks where it is not verified that the perpetrators were from al-qaeda. There are still a lot of other attacks where that is unclear or where it is simply suggested with no evidences. Babtt ( talk) 03:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Not supported by sources given, contradicts main article on 2007 Yazidi communities bombings. See the talk page there where I note other examples on wikipedia where this 796 number is given (none with sources) but I provide there sources for the number 796. I'm not sure exactly how to go about changing all this... Yaakovaryeh ( talk) 13:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Thus the "The people responsible for these attacks deserve to die" part has no purpose here is is pretty much vandalism. I suggest locking the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preda ( talk • contribs) 00:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
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As known most wikipedia editors are American, and there in lays my concern. onthe box of the 'al-Qaeda terror campaign' box 9/11 is in bold i find this unneeded and it also belittles those who have died in other attacks so i think it should be not bold. Cj105 11:44, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
What about OPM SANG? OPM SANG predated Khobar towers, and was an al-Qaeda operation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.66.241 ( talk) 22:23, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
In the passage on 9/11, we read that it was the deadliest act of terrorism in history. It was a part of a war, and the USA named it the "war on terror". This was not an act of "terrorism" --- it was an act of warfare. The word 'terrorism' evokes a sense of innocence on the part of the US. We can agree that 9/11 sucked, while also respecting the fact that the US is not a perfectly moral nation. Respect, in this case, comes in the form of accurate diction.
If we can use the word 'terrorism' so casually, then let's call the Holocaust the most deadly act of terrorism. I think that evoked more terrified feelings for even longer than did 9/11.
Or maybe we can call the atrocity that is Hiroshima to be the most deadly act of terrorism.
This article's infobox seems quite biased to the US and a bit innacurate ( George W. Bush as an al-Qaeda commander?) Is there something here you all know about and I don't, or is that vandalism?? -- S.O. E-L-I-Z-A (YB3) T @ lk/ contribs 00:04, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Military targets are included in this list ( USS Cole bombing, USS The Sullivans plot). Terrorism involves non-combatant targets, which these were not. Either these entries should be removed or the page should be renamed to reflect that more than terrorism activities are included here. -- ChrisRuvolo ( t) 01:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
I think we should have an alternate name for this page, such as Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks, History of al-Qaeda attacks, or something similar. Comments?
P.S. Shouldn't this article go back at least to the 1993 WTC bombing? Why is Khobar Towers taken as the start? I am not overly familiar with the history of this and the main al-Qaeda article, so I will undertake no changes for now. Thanks, Black Falcon 01:13, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Al-Qaeda terror campaign → Timeline of al-Qaeda attacks — It seems more neutral. SeiteNichtGefunden 11:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Done. I felt that the move was sufficiently uncontroversial so as not to require consensus-building. --
Black Falcon (
Talk)
17:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
I've removed the references to the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing as being an al Qaeda attack both here and in the KT main article (in which the word al Qaeda didn't appear for good reason).
Here the KT bombing was included with the description that al Qaeda is often "cited" as being as suspect and that the attack is often "ascribed" to them. This is generally called "ignorance" and isn't generally something you cite as supporting information.
As this was a serious matter involving people getting killed, it got investigated and was found to have been carried out by a different group without any known involvement of al Qaeda . There's an indictment, a description of what the investigation found and all the known players cited in the KT's own article.
The infobox still includes "1st Khobar Towers" as a listed attack which I don't know how to correct, so if you do, please remove it from there too. Attriti0n 02:49, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
I understand it was in the planning stages, but I was wondering if there was information about when it would have been executed. Brian Pearson 14:45, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
I have removed the claim that Interpol and the Spanish government believe that Spanish Police was involved in the attacks. It is false and unsupported by the quoted sources.
-- Larean01 10:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
The source: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1001171,00.html?promoid=googlep
ATTACK DEC. 29, 1992 ADEN, YEMEN One hundred U.S. servicemen had just left the Gold Mohur Hotel, on their way to duty in Somalia, when the bomb hit. It killed two people in the hotel and seriously wounded four tourists. Two suspects reportedly had 23 bombs, two antitank mines, dynamite and machine guns.
Does not cite al-qaeda as being responsible. Vexorg ( talk) 06:04, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSSP66665 - "Soon after the blast, Yazid had claimed responsibility for al Qaeda in a posting on an Islamist website." - this is a very vague source Aude. It's just a hearsay claim. However, you are an administrator so I'm not going to fight with you over it. But personally I think this devalues Wikipedia when articles sound so definite based upon sources that are as weak as this. Vexorg ( talk) 06:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
It looks to me like that.
What about a long list of alQaeda attacks in the Middle East and Southern Asia??
i.e In Saudi arabia there were at least 4 attacks that were claimed by alQaeda.
I hope someone can collect them all and add them to this article.
Cutedoctor ( talk) 03:06, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Does this list deal with Jemaah Islamiyah or not?-- 81.232.105.190 ( talk) 15:45, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
It should be split into a factual list of acts they claim they have committed, and one with the "suspected of being influenced" hearsay. Marty Crabneck ( talk) 00:32, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
This is a list here of terrorist attacks. About half of these attacks involve al-qaeda or groups related to al-qaeda. I therefore added the deadliest ones to this article. However on 2nd thought the list it way too long and you can't fit all al-qaeda attacks on this page. The death toll below 70 casualties i have left out. Does anyone have thoughts on this? Pass a Method talk 12:40, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
I just remove a bunch of attacks where it is not verified that the perpetrators were from al-qaeda. There are still a lot of other attacks where that is unclear or where it is simply suggested with no evidences. Babtt ( talk) 03:00, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
Not supported by sources given, contradicts main article on 2007 Yazidi communities bombings. See the talk page there where I note other examples on wikipedia where this 796 number is given (none with sources) but I provide there sources for the number 796. I'm not sure exactly how to go about changing all this... Yaakovaryeh ( talk) 13:58, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
Thus the "The people responsible for these attacks deserve to die" part has no purpose here is is pretty much vandalism. I suggest locking the page — Preceding unsigned comment added by Preda ( talk • contribs) 00:43, 29 April 2016 (UTC)