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Misspelling
User:Wbm1058 re removing
WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. I initially was going to create the dab without the primary topic (hence my creation summary "create dab - the current WP:PRIMARYTOPIC redirect is overwhelmingly popular so keep target and can be challenged later 1. 00 not oo 2. the only article use of the redirect being incorrect"), but once I'd assembled the other entries and looked at view stats it was overwhelmingly popular (per
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC) and decided to leave for a proper discussion for later. From your removal, are you stating that we don't have primary topics from misspellings? (the hatnote removal on the article). As this is a
leet issue rather than a misspelling, I'm wondering what precedents we have, and what serves readers best. My gut feeling would be we'd treat leet similar to diacritics, rather than misspellings? Widefox;
talk15:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
"misspelled term" links here hatnotes populate
Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings, demanding action in order to remove the page from this error report. That means removing the hatnote, or at minimum removing the misspelled term from the hatnote. Saying that something links to a page implies that something is correct, not an error. We don't install intentional links to misspelled words.
I would liken leet to
MOS:TM: "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words or letters" In other words, this individual is simply branding himself by using leet. MOS:TM suggests that we don't honor this non-standard variant, and say that Thunderfoot is his (correct) nickname, which he stylizes as "Thunderf00t". –
wbm1058 (
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15:44, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
I don't see a clear primary topic for "Thunderfoot", so I would leave things as they are. Even the redirect "Thunderf00t" has very few views, which suggests that not many readers who find this page click through to read about Phil Mason.
Certes (
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16:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
User:Wbm1058, my initial assessment of article popularity was based on
Phil Mason getting ~100/day - an order of magnitude more than the others
[1] I didn't look at the fine points (of the ambiguous term) of redirect use and pseudonym (with or without leet), and also put emphasis on this being an existing redirect with no discussion for removing the primary topic
Yes exactly "Thunderfoot" (styled "Thunderf00t"). It was me that tagged the redirects as misspellings, do we have anything more appropriate as I think we're agreeing the leet isn't as misspelling and un-leeted is just de-stylised, so also not a misspelling?
Certainly now it looks like the redirect use is minimal compared to the article use then happy to not call it primary by usage for this term. Suppose this is just more clear now I've created the dab and I was just being over cautious, as I said I was initially creating the dab at the redirect removing the primary topic and then due to pageviews of articles decided to keep the existing redirect. My redirect tagging seems the only thing needing fixing. Widefox;
talk17:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
It could be a {{R from stylization}} but I think that's meant for cases where the title matches the redirect, i.e. that template would be appropriate if the article we're redirecting to were called "Thunderfoot".
Certes (
talk)
17:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
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Misspelling
User:Wbm1058 re removing
WP:PRIMARYREDIRECT. I initially was going to create the dab without the primary topic (hence my creation summary "create dab - the current WP:PRIMARYTOPIC redirect is overwhelmingly popular so keep target and can be challenged later 1. 00 not oo 2. the only article use of the redirect being incorrect"), but once I'd assembled the other entries and looked at view stats it was overwhelmingly popular (per
WP:PRIMARYTOPIC) and decided to leave for a proper discussion for later. From your removal, are you stating that we don't have primary topics from misspellings? (the hatnote removal on the article). As this is a
leet issue rather than a misspelling, I'm wondering what precedents we have, and what serves readers best. My gut feeling would be we'd treat leet similar to diacritics, rather than misspellings? Widefox;
talk15:10, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
"misspelled term" links here hatnotes populate
Wikipedia:Database reports/Linked misspellings, demanding action in order to remove the page from this error report. That means removing the hatnote, or at minimum removing the misspelled term from the hatnote. Saying that something links to a page implies that something is correct, not an error. We don't install intentional links to misspelled words.
I would liken leet to
MOS:TM: "Avoid using special characters that are not pronounced, are included purely for decoration, or simply substitute for English words or letters" In other words, this individual is simply branding himself by using leet. MOS:TM suggests that we don't honor this non-standard variant, and say that Thunderfoot is his (correct) nickname, which he stylizes as "Thunderf00t". –
wbm1058 (
talk)
15:44, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
I don't see a clear primary topic for "Thunderfoot", so I would leave things as they are. Even the redirect "Thunderf00t" has very few views, which suggests that not many readers who find this page click through to read about Phil Mason.
Certes (
talk)
16:30, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
User:Wbm1058, my initial assessment of article popularity was based on
Phil Mason getting ~100/day - an order of magnitude more than the others
[1] I didn't look at the fine points (of the ambiguous term) of redirect use and pseudonym (with or without leet), and also put emphasis on this being an existing redirect with no discussion for removing the primary topic
Yes exactly "Thunderfoot" (styled "Thunderf00t"). It was me that tagged the redirects as misspellings, do we have anything more appropriate as I think we're agreeing the leet isn't as misspelling and un-leeted is just de-stylised, so also not a misspelling?
Certainly now it looks like the redirect use is minimal compared to the article use then happy to not call it primary by usage for this term. Suppose this is just more clear now I've created the dab and I was just being over cautious, as I said I was initially creating the dab at the redirect removing the primary topic and then due to pageviews of articles decided to keep the existing redirect. My redirect tagging seems the only thing needing fixing. Widefox;
talk17:25, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply
It could be a {{R from stylization}} but I think that's meant for cases where the title matches the redirect, i.e. that template would be appropriate if the article we're redirecting to were called "Thunderfoot".
Certes (
talk)
17:39, 4 January 2019 (UTC)reply