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cited page from the website Lovesmarks Campus may have some value for Wikipedia articles about Brand Spirit, Majorie Ellis Thompson or Hamish Pringle, but it has pretty much no value at all for this article because it does not support the claim that Nugyen was involved with the book in any way. In fact, there is no mention at all of Thuc Doan Nugyen. Therefore, source should probably be removed per
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Marchjuly (
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00:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose. In the book cited, Brand Spirit: How Cause Related Marketing Builds Brands, among the Acknowledgements and Thanks (pp. xi–xii), Thuc Nguyen is recognized as one of those "who have volunteered their time for Saatchi & Saatchi Cause Connection and believed in it."
Kent Krupa (
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02:59, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
That may be true
Kent Krupa, but it does not say that at all in the "source" that is cited. The book is not being cited here; An article about the book is being cited. So, if that's what the book says, then simply use {{cite book}} and list the page(s) of the "Acknowledgments and Thanks" section per
WP:SAYWHEREYOUREADIT. You don't really need a url for the book. Just the
ISBN would be fine. Once again, the cited web page makes no mention of Nguyen at all and therefore cannot be used to verify the claim being made. If you still disagree, then we can ask for other opinions at
WP:RSN if you like. -
Marchjuly (
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03:11, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks Kent Krupa. Sorry if my post was confusing and made it seem as if I was advocating removal of the text about Nguyen's connection to the book. I was only commenting on the cited source. -
Marchjuly (
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03:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Associate producer for the Beast (web game for the film A.I.), etc.
Claiming that Nguyen was an associate producer for a major film such as
A.I. Artificial Intelligence is something that should be properly supported by an independent reliable source. I've searched the WWW for such a source, but have had no luck other than
this from Nguyen's official website. FWIW, there are no mentions of Nguyen on
the A.I. Cast & Credits IMDb page or of A.I. on
Nguyen's IMDb page. I also checked the A.I. Wikipedia article looking for such a source and found nothing at all. In fact, that article only claims that Nguyen was the voice of the Cybertornics CEO. Regardless, Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable sources for other Wikipedia article per
WP:WPNOTRS and IMDb pages are not considered reliable sources per
WP:BLPSPS,
WP:Citing IMDb, etc., so something more is needed to support this claim. I have marked it with a {{citation needed}} for now in the hope that others might have better luck than myself in finding such a source, but the information should probably be removed if it cannot be verified. -
Marchjuly (
talk)
05:42, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
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cited page from the website Lovesmarks Campus may have some value for Wikipedia articles about Brand Spirit, Majorie Ellis Thompson or Hamish Pringle, but it has pretty much no value at all for this article because it does not support the claim that Nugyen was involved with the book in any way. In fact, there is no mention at all of Thuc Doan Nugyen. Therefore, source should probably be removed per
WP:RSCONTEXT. -
Marchjuly (
talk)
00:47, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Oppose. In the book cited, Brand Spirit: How Cause Related Marketing Builds Brands, among the Acknowledgements and Thanks (pp. xi–xii), Thuc Nguyen is recognized as one of those "who have volunteered their time for Saatchi & Saatchi Cause Connection and believed in it."
Kent Krupa (
talk)
02:59, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
That may be true
Kent Krupa, but it does not say that at all in the "source" that is cited. The book is not being cited here; An article about the book is being cited. So, if that's what the book says, then simply use {{cite book}} and list the page(s) of the "Acknowledgments and Thanks" section per
WP:SAYWHEREYOUREADIT. You don't really need a url for the book. Just the
ISBN would be fine. Once again, the cited web page makes no mention of Nguyen at all and therefore cannot be used to verify the claim being made. If you still disagree, then we can ask for other opinions at
WP:RSN if you like. -
Marchjuly (
talk)
03:11, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Thanks Kent Krupa. Sorry if my post was confusing and made it seem as if I was advocating removal of the text about Nguyen's connection to the book. I was only commenting on the cited source. -
Marchjuly (
talk)
03:55, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply
Associate producer for the Beast (web game for the film A.I.), etc.
Claiming that Nguyen was an associate producer for a major film such as
A.I. Artificial Intelligence is something that should be properly supported by an independent reliable source. I've searched the WWW for such a source, but have had no luck other than
this from Nguyen's official website. FWIW, there are no mentions of Nguyen on
the A.I. Cast & Credits IMDb page or of A.I. on
Nguyen's IMDb page. I also checked the A.I. Wikipedia article looking for such a source and found nothing at all. In fact, that article only claims that Nguyen was the voice of the Cybertornics CEO. Regardless, Wikipedia articles are not considered reliable sources for other Wikipedia article per
WP:WPNOTRS and IMDb pages are not considered reliable sources per
WP:BLPSPS,
WP:Citing IMDb, etc., so something more is needed to support this claim. I have marked it with a {{citation needed}} for now in the hope that others might have better luck than myself in finding such a source, but the information should probably be removed if it cannot be verified. -
Marchjuly (
talk)
05:42, 7 May 2015 (UTC)reply